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« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2008, 09:36:07 AM »
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Thanks Arte! [smiley=dankk2.gif]
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« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2008, 02:46:18 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2008, 03:21:52 PM »
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This example shows two patterns which repeat a lot :

The "[size=12]W[/size]" shape is one of the pattern which repeats quite often too. This is the first pattern I generally target.

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« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2008, 05:02:51 PM »
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Hey Arte, with using the red and black way that you are doing now as opposed to how you were tracking at the beginning of this thread, I don't really get when you are betting. Are you acutally using rules or are you just doing it by feel.  Because from the last two graphs it seemed like there were bets that "by rule" should have been made but it doesn't seem you chose to?

I am just a little confused now I guess.

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« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2008, 05:23:51 PM »
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Are you acutally using rules or are you just doing it by feel


Neither of these. I try not to use fixed rules but hey ! we need to start somewhere. And I never bet by feeling instead I test and see if my set of patterns is hitting according to expectation in which case I bet they will keep hitting. They never failed me yet. Don't try to catch the same event over and over in a systematic way instead be flexible accept to bet less at times but always try to win your session.

It is difficult to explain everything in a single and limited thread like this. Ideally, if you would sit beside me you'd see how I operate. I usually approach the game using a very open mind. I let the stream develop and I jump into action as soon as I detect a particular portion of the stream will repeat. Roulette is a device which produces a lot of repeatition. Once you realise this then your method of play change completely. You are no more able to use a fixed set of rules. You just want to adapt to the stream and follow its tides.

Remember this, two players could be exposed to the same string of decisions but see 2 completely different things. Think about it and you'll realise it's because of their frame of interpretation. You need a simple frame of reference rich enough but not too complicated as I tried to show within the confine of this very limited thread.
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« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2008, 08:54:29 PM »
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Well Above statement is so true.. Arte...

Riding the trend has good way to play... once this gambler told me this "any system can win and lose at any given day"

Riding the trend is good tactic to win, but of cource nothing is easy.... trend can change any time...

if there is really truely fixed pattern then we will be milliionare... right?

but I do believe that there are certain patterns exist... if human is choosing the red or black then we should get 100 red or 100 black in row which we haven't seen that... so that means there are limit spin or card can do...

but of cource nobody will wait till 15 red in row then start betting using 10 progression... even you win you can only win 1 unit every six month and you have to be at casino 24 hours to see that kind of chance...

Well, anyhow... I believe Arte is doing wonderful job. ... I am following every single post he posted...

one of the resons is that I play bit of baccarat.. well, no choice since my local casino doesn't have roulette... I am dying to try mr. Victor and mr . Lanky's system though...

but mean while I got to figure out way to win with even chances.. and Arte is doing that now...

well thank you

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« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2008, 10:58:04 AM »
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« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2008, 01:53:40 PM »
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hey mr. Victor how are you doing?

why did you quote that? =)

symthathy?

well, closest casino I can access roulette is 2 hours drive.. so I can't go too often...

so how is your game going lately? any good new or system?

hope you are doing well

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« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2008, 06:41:57 PM »
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Riding the trend is good tactic to win, but of cource nothing is easy.... trend can change any time...

A trend may just be an illusion. I don't chase trends with my latest approach instead I have took the time to compile many thousands of decisions to see what was the most recurrent events after a streak had ended its course and to my great stupefaction I found out that these "after streak periods" produce a lot of instability where the amplitude of the swing between two opposite events stays within a certain limited corridor long enough to be exploited. This is what I am trying to show you.

Here is another sequence I took on Wiesbaden for today table 3 :
http://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/11/75/07/03/newex10.gif
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Periods of instability are easy to identify after these streaks.

Now, look at these very typical figures we get in all streams :

http://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/11/75/07/03/typica10.gif
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« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2008, 02:49:04 AM »
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Hello there.. you are doing great job....

pattern does exisist... I would say phenominon...

what you show on the cart is correct... I have been playing with this type of betting for long time....

after long streak... BBBBBBBB or RRRRRRRR I would say 7 streak or higher...

you will see shoe get choppy... for instance... BBBBBBB  R B R B this happen very often....

of cource nothing gurantee to this to happen... but it usually happen like this...

only few problems... first of all, we don't get 7 streak or higher often.. we have to wait for while to get this...

but I would say it is worth for us to look into it..

thank you

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« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2008, 06:44:13 AM »
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Why look so close?

What works for me is knowing the good/bad shape reading the trend.

 Looking the lines, you will see how  some lines are longer than others. So if you put them together within 15 spins for example, you will get a nice reference how the situation is, by checking wich line is he longest. Then to bet groups where I find the balance is coming, is easy somehow. Flat betting 10 spins or so in order to get the balance, is for me more secure than betting 1 or 2 times out of 10.

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« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2008, 07:02:36 AM »
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Also the formation of W M V and /\ is a good way of catching figures.

Roulette is a game of repetition, it will repeat patterns constantly. Thats why we can make good use of it.

After a streak, usually comes a very usual figure.

All try to ilustrate all what I am saying



http://www.freewebs.com/mariodiazcruz/trend.JPG
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sorry for me bad english

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« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2008, 07:04:32 AM »
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The circles are the formation of M W V and /\, and the squares are for the figures after a streak

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« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2008, 07:25:49 AM »
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J.Daniels,

This is exactly what I tried to show since the beginning of this thread. Your ability to anticipate figures should improve over time with practice. I realise this is a very interesting and challenging way to play the game. It makes your head spin very fast. You need to be in a constant state of alert. But the beauty of it is I don't need to wait or chase any particular kind of events.

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I have been playing with this type of betting for long time....
after long streak... BBBBBBBB or RRRRRRRR I would say 7 streak or higher...  
you will see shoe get choppy

This is not what I track or chase. I am never in a state of "see and wait" for a particular type of events. This is the major error most players are doing, I.e., using a set of fixed rules such as this one. You need to be very flexible. You might want to start with the easy recognizable figures mentionned by J.Daniels and I then later on with practice you should be able to add some more comlex figures.

If you are at ease with this approach you'll never feel anymore the need to look for another system in your lifetime as this one alone will provide you with everything you need to succeed as this is a dynamic system.
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« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2008, 07:36:31 AM »
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Then to bet groups where I find the balance is coming, is easy somehow. Flat betting 10 spins or so in order to get the balance, is for me more secure than betting 1 or 2 times out of 10.

Although you can look at it this way, this is not my case. I always try to avoid selection of bets based on fallacies such as this. The concept of balance or return to a state of balance in the short term is the gambler's fallacy in all its glory. The better you can get rid of these thoughts the better it gets. In a way, you must empty your mind as this is a random game. I rarely place many consecutive bets as I prefer to bet at specific key frames so to speak. If I evaluate I can place many consecutive bets then I'll do it but as soon as I lose a bet, I stop and look for the next opportunity. I never force or try to impose my game to the Game
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