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« Reply #105 on: July 16, 2009, 02:09:00 PM »
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Hi hammy,

Thank you for the nice system.    I played it today at a b&m casino on their touch bet roulette.    The one powered by the blower, I.  e, automatic.     I played for 173 spins, at 67 seconds a spin, and made a nice 349$.     Never once have I been in danger.    But you have to be well organised to take notes and follow the speed of the game.     That roulette will spin for 34 seconds, and you have only 33 seconds to place your bets.     So one has to be well organised.     But to me, the system you came up with, is fantastic.   
Also, which is nice, I had the time to take five 10 minutes coffee and cigarettes breaks.     How about that for a beginner?

So hammy, Tanks a million for your generosity, and wish you all the best

All others,

Go ahead, try it.     But stick to the rules, you won't regret it.   


Jean

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« Reply #106 on: July 16, 2009, 04:57:52 PM »
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lol,

played one session this morning and had a loss, played another session just now and had a loss again. oh well, tanked like every other system.

NO WAY !!

you are not playing it correctly, follow the steps in my revised post !

always bet 6 single streets at a time.
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« Reply #107 on: July 16, 2009, 05:02:41 PM »
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Hi hammy,

Thank you for the nice system.    I played it today at a b&m casino on their touch bet roulette.    The one powered by the blower, I.  e, automatic.     I played for 173 spins, at 67 seconds a spin, and made a nice 349$.     Never once have I been in danger.    But you have to be well organised to take notes and follow the speed of the game.     That roulette will spin for 34 seconds, and you have only 33 seconds to place your bets.     So one has to be well organised.     But to me, the system you came up with, is fantastic.   
Also, which is nice, I had the time to take five 10 minutes coffee and cigarettes breaks.     How about that for a beginner?

So hammy, Tanks a million for your generosity, and wish you all the best

All others,

Go ahead, try it.     But stick to the rules, you won't regret it.   


Jean

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Hey Jean,  well done mate !

Yes you have to be organized, that's why it's good online where you can write every spin down and follow the system !

congrats !

hammy   
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« Reply #108 on: July 16, 2009, 06:21:00 PM »
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Hi hammy,

For my part, I would'nt play online with a RNG roulette.   With a manned roulette, maybe yes but no RNG. 
I say this because I played with play money on several sites, the one I used most was EuroGrand Casino,
and I realised that their system is recognising the patterns you play, and after a while they put you in the
ditch.   In real b&m casinos, they will let you take notes as long as you don't use a mechanical device for
computations such as a hand calculator or computer. 

Some people will look at you as if you're from another planet, but at the end of the day, you'll be the one that wins. 

Another thing I remarked, I discovered that the tempo of the Touchbet Roulette is aleatory.   Last week I went to my
local casino on an exploratory trip, just the get the feel of it and find answers to many questions I had and on my mind,
such as speed and frequency of the roulette.    So I timed it last friday and I recorded 41 seconds to place the bets and
26 seconds for the wheel to spin for a total of 67 seconds.   Same as today for the lenght of the spin cycle but very different
times as for placing bets and waiting time.    So if the total time for a complete cycle is always the same, we have to conclude
that the strenght of the push is less if you get more seconds to place your bets. 

All this to say, that even there, you have to keep notes and organise your bets accordingly.   So first thing is to check the tempo
and verify if your way of playing will support it. 

So thanks again hammy and may you have a lot of winning cycles. 

Jean

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« Reply #109 on: July 16, 2009, 11:03:42 PM »
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Thanks Jean,

I agree with you about not playing roulette on RNG online casinos.

However, for some reason this system has always beat them and it's a great feeling !   diablo

BUT, you must keep your sessions very short, 20 minutes max. and withdraw only small amounts at a time, keep under the radar.

I also agree with your philosophy and the universal law,the Golden Rule.

Live by the Golden Rule and you don't need a religion. Religious tags only promote predjudice against others with different religions.

Great talking with you, Jean !   Smiley

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« Reply #110 on: July 17, 2009, 01:47:59 PM »
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NO WAY !!

you are not playing it correctly, follow the steps in my revised post !

always bet 6 single streets at a time.

LOL, dude, I played it exactly as you said and it failed twice.

doesn't matter, I knew it would fail eventually, everything and anything can and will happen on a roulette table.

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« Reply #111 on: July 17, 2009, 03:56:06 PM »
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Diarmaid,

That is unbelievable dude, considering my win streak so far with this system.    blush2
Where are YOU playing ?
Are you always this negative about beating roulette, you must always lose with your attitude ?   scratch_ones_head

Did you play like this:

I only use 6 ss with progression 1,2,5,10,20 STOP. I changed strategy to this:

1. Track until there are 6 ss not hit.
2. Now bet on the 6 ss not hit with progression.
3. After a hit, use the 5 ss not hit plus 1 ss that has most hits.
4. After a hit, use the 4 ss not hit plus 2 ss hit the most, if it was the most hit ss that was hit, play the same 6 ss.
5. After a hit STOP. That's 3 hits per session for a tidy profit.
6. Start over , tracking a new set of 6 ss.

I think you should look for a better place to play, no kidding !
Sorry about your luck   skull
You have my sympathy   Cry
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« Reply #112 on: July 17, 2009, 04:36:44 PM »
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Thats the same rules you posted previously.

What attitude are you talking about, all I said was the system failed twice and thats it. Just being honest mate. pleasantry

I ended up being up €50 but I withdrew it before I lost it.

I have tested your system on 10,000 live spins and it fails too much for the wins to keep the BR growing.

I'll just stick to Baccarat. There is no zero to worry about.

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« Reply #113 on: July 17, 2009, 09:24:05 PM »
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Ok, no problem !

I believe you   Thumbs up

good luck with playing baccarat... whistle

cheers,
hammy    Cheesy
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« Reply #114 on: August 11, 2009, 09:14:18 PM »
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hello again!
good to be back in the forum.  Tried this system a couple of times, at my trusty automatic roulette.  €0. 50 per unit, played about 6 sessions the first day, made a coupe of mistakes till I got used to it, then walked home with a cool €70.  I did notice though that the progressions went further up that hammy had reported, reaching the scary fifth a coupler of times, always at the fourth step.  So on the second day I restricted it to the second stage, ( 6 ss and 5+1, then start over).  On the second session I got blown away at the first stage and lost €114.  114-70, net loss €44.  It could just be bad luck of course, but I seem to reeach further up into the progression than hammy reported, so I wondered f there is something about RNG that makes it mor suitable for this system than a live, non crupier wheel.

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« Reply #115 on: August 11, 2009, 10:12:11 PM »
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Keep in mind, some will lie and say they lost because they have an agenda or they lie and did not even play. Why you ask? Some are very anti-progression or anti-system and they need to get their point across at any expense. Misery loves company. If THEY cant win (roulette), no way you should be allowed to. Keep up your winning ways hammy!  Ken
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« Reply #116 on: August 12, 2009, 07:34:13 AM »
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Is this how this forum works? I you report losses you're lying and have an agenda? I'm not anti anything or anyone.   I leave that to those who hold grudges and have too much spare time.  I just want some bit of cash on the side in a more fun way than a daytime job.  I've risked my money, it's my responsibility.  But I made a valid point.   Maybe I was just unlucky.  Maybe automated wheels need a different approach than RNG wheels, hardly surprising.
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« Reply #117 on: August 12, 2009, 08:37:21 AM »
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I was speaking in GENERAL, sorry, my mistake. I'm just saying that some people, whether its anti-progression or anti-abortion (etc) they will do/say ANYTHING to get their point across. Its sad but a FACT. Ken
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« Reply #118 on: August 12, 2009, 08:55:05 AM »
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Hi guys and gals,
Good to see the forum back !    pleasantry

Jeromin,
Sorry about your luck, I can't explain it.   scratch_ones_head
All I can do is explain my system and my actual results I get from it.
Yes, I use it online with RGN but to me that should be a disadvantage, it should work better with live wheel ?
You should use the full 3 steps for each session because the repeating streets do hit alot of times.

cheers,
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« Reply #119 on: August 12, 2009, 09:04:00 AM »
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No problem.  I understand there are a lot of naysayers around.  I'm optimistic, just don't have unlimited funds to experiment with less than optimal systems.  I'll write down the numbers next time I go play some other system, maybe your sleeper street system,  and check at home if hammy's system gives me any more nasty surprises or if it's sound.

 The thing about roulette is, most people are either too skeptical, or too emotional about it.   Virtually all players at my local casino play  from their gut and lose time and again, then they're off to the ATM for some more pain.   Then you have the opposite: rational naysayers.  "All is random" Only it isn't.  There are patterns coming out again and again.  It is tricky to cash in on them,  probably because we are dealing with money, the object of our strong desire, so it's tough to be disciplined.  A bit like playing hard to get with a beautiful woman.  It works, but it's hard to do.
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