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« Reply #150 on: October 29, 2009, 07:14:55 AM » |
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« Reply #152 on: October 30, 2009, 06:38:22 PM » |
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Hi Simon.well I hate to rain on this parade, especially after all your great input Lanky which I really appreciate, Thank You I appreciate the kind words. but I read some articles that convinced me that any kind of progression or money management system is useless, and basically the bottom line is if you can't beat something by flat betting you aint gonna beat it any other way. Well here is where We are going to differ in opinions My Friend.
Why 
Well simply because You or and they talking about having the Holy Grail of Roulette or any other form of Gambling for that matter if You can Flat bet and Win.
(Many people lay claim to be able to do this..but very few can or do show how its done)
Now I have only seen Two people in My whole life that have proved to Me that They can Flat Bet and still win consistently over the long term.
One was the late Horse racing professional called Don Scott.
He certainly had the Combined odds down to a fine art whereby He could Win.
Actually He had a Methodology of where He could take into account the class of the race and then compare the beaten margin and convert that to weight that a horse could win with.
However this is something that belongs over in Lohnro’s Racing Section which will be done over there at a later date.
So I won’t bore You with this any further.
The other Person that can beat Roulette Via Flat betting that I know of Personally is Iwonder.
Below is a link to His Method which is a cousin of sorts to what Mr J Did at one time.http://vlsroulette.com/full-systems/an-old-system/msg80526/#msg80526there are several articles about this that can be read at bjmath.com/bjmath/progress/progress.htm
if you don't want to be discouraged, don't read them.
the article just called "Progression Betting" by Mike Lea explains things quite well (unfortunately.) Yes well one thing for sure Simon is that I won’t be one of those that get discouraged by anything those and or anyone else writes.
I have heard it all or most of it before and none of it fazes Me in the slightest.
As I have used the Divisor in all its Different forms since 1975.
Now to All those people that can Flat Bet and still Win.
Good on You….I am pleased that You can do that.
And I not only Congratulate You I also hope it continues for Your lifetime.
However there are people like Myself that are not that Talented and have had to improvise certain ways of doing things so that We can also Lose Less.
And the Divisor is one of those ways.
Added to Strategy play and also added to a Stop Loss when those hell sessions come the Divisor becomes a potent weapon in trying to Lose Less then others do and in fact can turn things around on occasions where We can win doing it.
Some may even say that those occasions turn into consistent Winning Sessions and by Loseing Less on the bad ones can/could/do Win at the end of the Year.
Simon My Friend I am not telling You or anybody else what or How to do anything.
I am just explaining what I do.
I wish You Well going forward Simon.
You are a good Person and I hope that You win for the rest of Your life.
Lanky.
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« Reply #154 on: November 05, 2009, 04:27:19 PM » |
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@ Divisor players
I have tried to create an excel tool to help with the divisor betting. This tool, currently, can be used for all EC bets, Single Dozen & Column bets, Double Dozen and Column bets.
I would appreciate if all the divisor players in this forum can have a crack at this tool and provide feedback regarding bugs and issues.
have fun!
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« Reply #155 on: November 05, 2009, 04:50:12 PM » |
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@ Divisor players
I have tried to create an excel tool to help with the divisor betting. This tool, currently, can be used for all EC bets, Single Dozen & Column bets, Double Dozen and Column bets.
I would appreciate if all the divisor players in this forum can have a crack at this tool and provide feedback regarding bugs and issues.
have fun!
You are a champ mate  ! I will test it and let you know. |
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« Reply #156 on: November 05, 2009, 05:07:39 PM » |
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« Reply #157 on: November 05, 2009, 05:07:41 PM » |
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Well done Oz!
An additional feature is that it shows the percentage level of wins needed to complete the set in a very understandable way.
Mocco
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« Reply #158 on: November 05, 2009, 05:14:31 PM » |
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@ lohnro: thanks, mate. I hope this can be useful in explaining the divisor to newer players.
@ mocco: thanks for the idea, however, if you could provide some sample of what you would exactly like to see, then it would be easier for me to try and incorporate it into the tool.
@ bazeegar: have fun testing and let me know.
Cheers
oz
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« Reply #159 on: November 06, 2009, 12:22:19 AM » |
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Hi Oz Thanks mate,a fantastic contribution.  The Spiders Kiss |
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« Reply #160 on: November 10, 2009, 03:00:00 PM » |
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Hi Ozshabs .
Great work with the Divisor Tool Mate.
Your a Fairdinkum Champion Cobber.
I will check it all out for You ...but so far I have not found any problems ..
Good OnYa Mate.
Lanky.
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« Reply #161 on: November 10, 2009, 03:31:54 PM » |
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Hi Forum.
Recently I put this in a reply to Simon.Now I have only seen Two people in My whole life that have proved to Me that They can Flat Bet and still win consistently over the long term.
Actually there are Three People that I know of that can do this.
And for that Reason I am making a public Apology to My good Friend Lohnro.
Lohnro is the other person that can also Flat Bet and Win.
He is Semi Pro at betting the Horses...and He is very successful with it.
Anybody that can Flat Bet His way to over 30+ Times His staring Bank is very successful at what He does.
Sorry Lonnie My Mate.
Love to the Family Cobber.
Lanky.
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« Reply #162 on: November 10, 2009, 03:41:34 PM » |
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Hi Ozshabs .
Great work with the Divisor Tool Mate.
Your a Fairdinkum Champion Cobber.
I will check it all out for You ...but so far I have not found any problems ..
Good OnYa Mate.
Lanky.
Lanky... is everything ok cos you have been away for a while... (did you take a holiday?) anyway, it was a great pleasure to do the divisor tool. I enjoyed it, it gave me a new challenge. Cheers |
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« Reply #163 on: November 10, 2009, 04:16:43 PM » |
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Thanks for the kind words Lanky, but there was certianly no need to apologise my mate! |
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« Reply #164 on: November 25, 2009, 05:58:28 AM » |
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To Ozhabs.
Great simulator in Excell, but one question. Usually you bets get very high when you have had a losing streak and then start winning (a high bet + low divisor). Is it possible in your tool to set so the divisor never get below 3.
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Christian
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