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lucky_strike
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« on: July 21, 2009, 02:59:45 AM »
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Do you know how Marigny de Grilleau beat the house edge flat betting.

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Tangram
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2009, 03:09:09 AM »
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No, but I've a feeling we're going to find out.  Grin

CPM?

Googling turned up this:- http://www.win-maxx.com/basics/basics19.html

Also, define "beat".
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lucky_strike
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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2009, 03:39:02 AM »
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Well he play to capture specific events using an specific march to caught them with a specific staking plan.

For this to work to over come the house edge you need to have an La Partage rule.
Where you lose half the bet if zero strike.

1 unit has the value of 100 Euro.

The march goes like this in this example.
When you see a serie of four you play it will continue to become a serie of five.
If it does you continue to play but with a lower bet size then your base bet.
If you win again you lower you bet size to become lower then your previous bet size.

If it lose you wait for a serie of three to appear and play as above and if it lose you play again with a serie of three when it appears.

This is the end of attack one of three attacks to capture +1 or more.
Here you start over and wait for a new serie of four and start all over again.

Now you have capture three winnings bet in a row which is the ultimate goal with this march.

This means we are flat betting with 9 units and if we win we play twice with 3 units and if we win we play twice with 1 unit.

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If we get +1 with 9 units we can't lose we just gain a chance to capitalize more.

Now when you place 9 units = 900 Euro.
You place the exact amount on zero so if it strikes you break even.
The % with the La Partage rule that let you keep 50% of your bet.
Then when you get +1 or more +2 and +3 then you have to reduce the amount spent on zero with the money won.

It is not many who knows that he won 181 sessions playing and attacking the game like this with different methods depending on what events he was capturing.
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lucky_strike
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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2009, 03:42:22 AM »
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+13 units...

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Tangram
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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2009, 04:11:38 AM »
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Quote from: Lucky Strike
18:2 Statistical Ecart look at chart

How are you getting 18:2?  Undecided
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lucky_strike
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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2009, 04:16:34 AM »
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How many singles do you have with in the window "frame" and how many series of two and three do you have?
Easy just take a look above.

If it is going to be perfect it is 17:2 because the last outcome in the sequense we don't know if it is going to be one singles or not.

Singles has the value of 1
Series of two has the value of 0
Series of three has the value of 1
Series of four has the value of 2
and so on....

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lucky_strike
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2009, 04:30:18 AM »
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Just have to add that that is just one among many different ways to use the values...
The other way you have singles with the value of 1 and series no matter lenght with the value 1....

It all come downs to what kind of events you try to capture...

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Tangram
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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2009, 04:32:59 AM »
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Ok thanks. But I don't see why the series are given the values they are. The law of series says that there are as many series greater than 1 as there are singles, so what is the reasoning behind series of 2 = 0, series of 3 = 1 etc? There are 6 series greater than 1 (but you only count the 2  series of 3 because series of 2 = 0) so this is different from your CPM method where you are looking for an imbalance of singles over series.

Ok, I see you just answered my question in your previous post.  Wink
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lucky_strike
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2009, 04:41:23 AM »
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Hi Tangram I just wanted to show how he did take care or the house edge...

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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2009, 04:56:55 AM »
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Thanx Lucky Strike for this brief introduction. From what I've read Grilleau's method should be very complicated and hard to understand. Is it really that simple? :-)
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