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« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2008, 08:15:17 AM »
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hi carlos, would you make us a 10-spin-example to clearify some items?

you said play on 2 dozens or 2 columns and do it with progression 2/4/8/16 and so on, didn´t you?

do you play the 2 last spun ever?

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« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2008, 06:11:30 PM »
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Hello Toby, no, if you read carefully the thread youll see tracking dozens has the mean to find long

strings of Ws when they produce, what number, how many long series of Ws separated by 1, 2, 3

etc Ls or if there was just 1 serie long and then again short series of 2 3 4 Ws.

This tracking is to start betting after a long serie of Ws show again when in recent past you have seen 2

or more long series of Ws, you know series of 5, 6 or more Ws.

About betting I think its quite clear I dont play martingala. On the other way round a mild progression of

3 steps ladder, every step has got the same amount of chips for every dozen. First step 2 chips x dozen

x 10 losses, second 4 chips x dozen x 10 losses, third 8 chips x dozen x 10 losses.

Each step try to recover losses from the one behind.

You must understand that all the time you are playing paroli, so repeating bet with your original chips

and the ones got after hits summed to those. You stop paroli if a loss or when you arrive to the lowest

number of pasts long series of Ws.

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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2008, 07:16:40 PM »
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ok carlos, you track on 2 dozens or columns.

you wait for a long row of Ws for example 6 hit

you see the break and when it re-start you bet on the 2 dozens to repeat a long Ws

I soppouse you have studied lots of permanences watching the event of a cut of a long Ws and its new start.

You play with a step ladder prog of 2 2 2  4  4  4  6  6  6  etc to recoup any bad start, don´t you?

or you just play flat?

good approuch yours on this study but it need to be  fullproof

I´ve never paid attention to the long Ws and its cut and what happens next.

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« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2009, 11:09:59 AM »
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One year late implementation but not too late I expect  Smiley
I know not much attention been paid to this way of tracking. Well, I forgive you!!! lol.

Victor's and Lanky's way to play dozens arouse in me again to come back to this tracking sistem of  LAST DOZEN spun. Not 2 last dozens spun. I want to make it clear.
Let see what patterns are shown in each column.
3 dozens(columns) have 3 possible ways to relate among them: 1/2 1/3  2/3.
So here the perm (Dublinbet from JLP, posted in this forum) and some tracking:

Dealer DARIUS          1/2           1/3          2/3

36                           L             W           W
34                           L             W           W Bet on 1/3 or 2/3 waiting to have a theird W.
28                           L             W           W  so a W
14                           W            L            W
12                           W            W           L  bet column 1/2 to have a theird W.
6                             W            W           L  so a W  and 1/3 to have a theird W.
5                             W            W           L  so a W stop betting now.
12                           W            W           L
12                           W            W           L
27                           L             W           W
7                            W             W           L
27                           L              W          W
28                           L              W          W bet column 2/3 to have a theird W.
23                           W             L           W so a W
11                           W             W          L   bet column 1/2 to have another W in a row
3                             W             W          L  so a W   bet on column 1/3 for a W
1                             W             W          L  so a W stop betting
31                            L              W         W
21   Dealer VIRGINIA   W              L          W bet on column 2/3 for a W
0                                                               (SKIP 0 JUST A LOSS)  so a loss f*****g 0 lol
22                           W              L          W  a W now bet on column 1/2 for a W
28                           L              W          W  so a L here
4                             W            W           L  bet on column 1/3 for a theird W
7                             W            W           L  so a W   b et on column 1/2 for a theird W
14                           W             L           W  so a W
2                             W             W          L
4                             W             W          L bet on column 1/3 for a W
19                            W             L          W  so a L
14                            W             L          W bet on column 2/3 for a W
35                            L              W         W  so a W
27                            L              W         W  bet on column 1/3 for a W
5                              W             W         L  so a W
7                              W             W         L  bet on column 1/2 for a W
1                              W             W         L  so a W
6                              W             W         L
25                            L               W        W
14                            W              L         W  bet on column 2/3 for a W
29                            L               W        W  so a W
3                              W             W         L   bet on column 1/3 for a W
2                              W             W         L   so a W  bet on column 1/2 for a W
2                              W             W         L   so a W
3                              W              W        L
34                            L               W        W
17                            W              L         W bet on column 2/3 for a W
36                            L               W        W so a W
9                             W               W        L  bet on column 1/3 for a W
22                            W               L        W  and you have a L  Bet on column 1/2 for a W
6                              W              W        L  so a W
7                              W              W        L  bet on column 1/3 for a W
11  Dealer ANNA S       W               W       L  so a W
30                             L               W       W
0
35                             L               W       W      bet on column 2/3 for a W
18                            W               L        W  so a W
11                            W               W        L  bet on column 1/2 for a W (Imao take off the bet you are leaving the Casino a winner today  Thumbs up
but dont feel so proud for another they this same pattern will kill you, it was just that today we followed the music pattern quite smooth Wink

What do you think about betting continuos on second W ( so 3 w in a row) repetion? Just an idea.
Or if im having W's series between L's then I go on betting these W's series to continue.
Or if W's coming isolated between L's bet that pattern will continue.

In this example column 1/3 all W's between L's are at least serie of 2W (or more) so no isolated W's.

Cheers,
Carlos.


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« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2009, 03:28:47 PM »
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These numbers belong to Lanky's in this post:

 http://vlsroulette.com/situational-strategy-play/questions-for-Lanky/

I expect Lionel doesn't mind my using them.
As in my previous post after this pattern (L)LWW in whatever Column I bet looking for a W to come. So 3 W's in a row. Most of the time this event happens in cascade between 3 Columns. I find it is a consistent event due to the way of tracking or due to whaterver reason I can't explain.



                1/2       1/3       2/3

1--             W        W         L
29               L        W         W
10              W        W         L
11              W        W         L
29               L        W         W    L in column 1/2
15              W        L          W
32               L        W         W    W in 2/3
21              W        L          W
10              W        W         L
22              W        L          W    W in 1/2
20              W        L          W
34              L         W         W    W  in 2/3
5               W         W         L
18              W         L         W     L IN 1/3
17              W         L         W     W in 1/2
32              L          W        W     w in 2/3
24              W         L         W
19              W         L         W
13              W         L         W     w in 1/2
14              W         L         W
19              W         L         W
14              W         L         W
31              L          W        W
21              W         L         W
35              L          W        W
32              L          W        W
13              W         L         W   L in 1/3
24              W         L         W
17              W         L         W   W in 1/2
18              W         L         W
17              W         L         W
23              W         L         W

7 Wins  2 Losses

If any interest I'll follow another day.
Cheers,
Carlos.
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« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2009, 03:58:19 PM »
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Something important I forgot to say. With this 7 wins I would have + 18 chips. 2 losses would have been -8 chips.
Why? Because I play a simple paroli. First bet 2 chips on either dozen, if a win I bet next W to come with my original chips and the price for my previous win.
Last win in column 1/2 was a single bet because there were no more numbers in the permanence to play a paroli. So in fact I would have won 20 - 8 = 12 chips in this example.
2 paroli wun cover 2 losses and give you 1 chip plus.
As this event I'm talking about is quite consistent it let me bet this way.

Im working on longer paroli to catch those long W's strings so frecuent. The idea: play with the Casino money part of the time with a partial % recovery so as not to lose all gains because of a L during the paroli.
But this is another story.
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« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2009, 03:21:53 AM »
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This thread was intended to put in it my particular way to see Victor's Lw's. So I feel backed to go on with my thoughts in loud voice.
We all know when we have a L while tracking it means that last 2 dozens shown failed to show in last spin. In fact last result skipped both last 2 different dozens shown.
When having w's it is due to 2 different circumstances: because last dozen repeated or the dozen prior to that jumped.
Our reasoning should be that we have neccesarily only 3 possible different results: last dozen repeat, prior dozen jump and both last differents dozens skip.
Abbreviating it we have LC, LJ or LS.
Now while doing the tracking of Lw's in a column we will write the last result as in this example:
           D        Last result    Tracking C, J, S
25       3
10       1
16       2            S                L                                     
22       2            C                L
27       3            S               W
14       2            J                L
3         1           S                W
9         1           C                L
15       2           J                 L
2         1           J                W
28       3           S                L
19       2           S               W
7         1           S               W
31       3           S               W
4         1           J                W
27       3           J                W
17       2           S                W
34       3           J                 W
7         1          S                W
18       2          S                 W
16       2          C                 L

Tracking this way we are following the ball movement which is telling us where to place our bets.
Any insights?

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Carlos
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