Just another stupid question on the divisor plan you use, I have also checked out the other post on 6 point divisor but I am a bit confused here:

I now take the 4 last lost bets=1122=6 & I divide them by 4

So what we are doing is now using a 4 point divisor plan to hunt the Ls With.

If it loses I can put it all into the 6 divisor plan & bet from there.

9=1/2=W=4/6=2 lost –8
24=2/1=W=4/8=2 lost –10
3=1/2=W=4/10=3 lost –13                     
29=3/1=L=4/13=4 Won 13-8 is -4  <= Up to here OK,  you sum up your losses an divide with 4 to produce the next betting amoun
27=3/1=W=3/4=2 Lost –6             But I do not get it how you calculate when you win, and also the safety brake addition
12=1/3=W=3/6=2 Lost –8
33=3/1=W=3/8=3 lost –11
22=2/3=L=3/11=4 won –11-8 is 3

We don’t Want our bets to rise too quickly.

So we will bring in the Safety brake as the divisor has reached 2/3+4/6 <<win target……..6/9

20=2/3=W=6/9=2 Lost=11
10=1/2=L=6/11=2 won=13 less 6 back=7
36=3/1=L=5/7=2 Won=9 less 6 back=3 from 6=[3] Profitso now we can start again with out 1x1x2x2 betting

Sorry for the trouble Lanky...

Yes it was the -4 mistake that confused me, and I thought I was missing something...

I think I get the divisor usage know...

Thanks  a lot

Hi Forum.

This is a reply to My Friend Renzo that asked me a question on a Pattern that I play on the Lw method that I learnt from Our Mentor Victor.

And I will put it here in case it helps someone else.
After all we are a Shareing Family Forum.

And people Please remember that if any good comes out of this the Credit belongs To Victor
As I learnt the Lw Method from Him

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ah, ok Lanky, thank you very much.
 
another item: the 2º W, the Lw(w)...
in this session how do you bet the Lw(w) only?

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Hello Mate
 
Ok 1st an explanation on how the Lww came about.
 
I designed it for 3 reasons actually
 
(1)=It is an extension of the LLw Pattern..
1st spin L
2nd spin L
3rd spin W <<< so here what we are really doing is laying claim to the 3rd spin spot when the the 1st L appears...See that Mate ??
So the Lww<< is exactly the same as we are still betting that at the 3rd spin it will be a W.
 
(2)= It identifies when we are in a Lw Lw  Loop.
So the Lw pattern can become the pattern to play after that happenens.
Because the LwL << Pattern kills the Lww Pattern.
 
(3) It can identify when there is an L run is about to Happen.

That is if you are an L player & pleased be WARNED here betting the L's is not for everyone it can get you into trouble.

Ok Now after saying all of that on a bad run it can cause you problems.
 
Because I have a two stop no-no.
In other words if I lose two bets in a row I stop....And wait in virtual for the patterns to form again.
So if this happens to me LwL<< I stop then if another L comes I would bet again for a W to come to form the LLw Pattern.
Now its like this LwLL<<I bet here again now if another L comes then I stop.
Now its LwLLL << now because of my two stop loss I now can't bet for the W to come again as I would if it were off the LLw and still having the two stop loss rule.
Because then the LLLw << would have have been a winner & a break even bet for me.
Now the LLw Pattern hits on Average 83% or there abouts
The LLLw pattern hits around 95% of the time. << So in this Case I miss out on this opportunity.
 
For this reason I am in the middle of reviewing the Pattern & to see if its worthwhile to go to the 3rd bet loss & then stop.
And also there is somthing else with that pattern that I am Tweaking/Reviewing.
I will keep you informed My Friend....In Fact I will post any new findings on the Forum..so that it can be shared with the Family.
 
Mate I will most probably post some of this reply to you on the Forum.
 
But seein as though you have asked me to do the Lww pattern only I will under the way it was designed in the 1st place.
Now Look Cobber its virtually impossible for me to do just the Lww Pattern as it leads to other things.
However I will do it the way you requested but I have to include the LLw & The LLLw as well because it is part of it.
But take no notice of the Win ..Loss ratio as an overall picture...Because it won't be a.true reflection on what happened on the session played
because the Lw  Patterns are taken out of play.
 
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L
W
W
W
L
W
W
L
W
W
W
W
L
L
W << bet win
L
W
W << bet win
L
L
W<< bet win
W
L
W
L << bet Lost
W
W
W
W
L
L
L << bet Lost
W << bet won
W
L
W
W << bet won
W
L
L
W<< bet won
L
W
L << bet Lost
W
L
W
L
W
W
W
W
W
W
L
W
L
L
W<< bet won
L
W
W<< bet won
W
L
W
W<< bet won
L
W
L<< bet lost
W
L
W
W
W

Your Friend
 
Lanky

Hi ChickenDinner
Mate
Welcome to the Family.
Great Post mate.
You have taken to this Lw Method like a duck takes to water.

I will split some of your Questions in this reply Cobber.
It will be easier for you to see.
I will put my answers under your Question.
And the main thing I see is that we both play the Lww a tad differently.
(which is what I am working on at the Moment )

I've been testing your LW method/s (on the last 2 dozen formed, intermingling the LLW and LWW) with very good results so far (1000 spins). Please tell me if this is correct however as I am not too sure (even though it does seem to be working).

I wait for 3 LWs (if I get 1 or 2 LWs, and see LL before I see the third LW, I start tracking again).
Correct Cobber

Obviously after 3 LWs, every time I see an 'L' I bet for a 'W' (win). When I win with LW, if LWW is active I'll bet L(W)(W)
Correct again if the Lww is active bet it.

If I get LL, I bet LL(W) will occur; and at the same time, the occurance an LL also deactivates the LWs, so I start tracking them again (once I get 3 LWs again I'm back on).
This is Right Mate.

 My question here though is if the LWW is still active, do I also bet LL(W)(W) - the (W) indicating a bet.
Well that’s is up to You mate.
At the moment I don’t.
But hey if the pattern works for You then by all means do it.

 Or did the LL kill my LWW patten (this is how I play), so I'll have to wait for another LWW before I start betting on LW(W).
Well this is a Yes & a No.
The LL << did stop the win on the W
But For Me the LLw activates the Lww after it has Come.
Eg=LLwLw <now I bet for the W to come again.
It would now look like this LLwLww.<< if the W came
If the W did not Come it would be like this
LLwLwL<<and that L killed the Lww pattern for me.

Basically mate, it's the activating of the LLW/LWWs that I'm not too sure about. For instance, is the LLW always active?

Yes for Me the LLw is always active it hits 83% + of the time.
There is one exception to this & that is if it goes
LLLL<< That kills the LLw,Lww & the LLLw Patterns
However if that did Happen I would turn & chase the the L’s until it lost 4 times in a row or one of our pattens became active again.

Now I don’t recommend that you do this (play the L’s) at this stage because truthfully it can get you into trouble.
Betting The L’s are not for everyone.

However I will put some examples here for you Mate.

(1)EG=LLLLwwww<<I would lose the 4 bets on the L’s
But I would count LLL(Lw)<< as Lw x 1

(2)EG=LLLLwLLw << I would have won 2 bets on the L’s and lost 2 on the W's…….But now I would stop betting the L’s because the LLw & the Lww patterns have been activated again.

(3)EG=LLLLwLwLw<< I now stop betting the L’s.I would have won 2 bets on the L’s & lost 3 bets on the W’s but now the Lw pattern is activated for me because of this LLL(Lw)(Lw)(Lw)

Ok now even though I have only won 2 from 5 bets here its still a win Unit wise because the L’s pay 2/1 or 3 back.
And you can see that even if they were flat bet it would be a 6 unit return to a 5 unit outlay= a profit of 1 on the L run.

To explain what I mean, please could you look at the below comments re. your recent email:-
(btw, I understand that you're not playing the LWs here as well)

Good observation on Your part Mate


L
W
W
W
L
W
W
L
W
W
W
W
L
L
W << bet win (Do you always play LL(W) even if it hasn't previously shown? Or does 3 X LWW activate it?)

Yes I always do that as it is in this instance.

L
W
W << bet win
L
L
W<< bet win
W
L
W
L << bet Lost (LWW deactived) << Correct
W
W
W
W
L
L
L << bet Lost
W << bet won (I'm assuming your playing the LLLW pattern here, which I also do...it works very well for me  ) << great
W (This activates LWW again, right?)

At this stage NO for me it would not have to have gone this far because I would have activated it after LLw had come

L
W
W << bet won.
W
L
L (this de-activates LWW, right?)
This L has no bearing on the Lww for me…..why ? because there was no W to begin with.

W<< bet won (LLW still active though) <<Yes so is Lww
L
W
L << bet Lost (why bet here, isn't LWW de-activated?)

Well see this is where we differ a little in what & how we play the pattern as explained above.
At this stage I only activate the Lww after LLw has come.
It does not mean you are wrong with what you are doing.
(As I have indicated this is the part I am working on now )
I am just pointing out what I do NOW

W
L
W
L
W
W (LWW active again?) <<At the moment for Me NO
W
W
W
W
L
W
L (Why did you not bet for a W here???)

 Because there was no LLw to activate this pattern for me in the 1st Place

L
W<< bet won
L
W
W<< bet won
W
L
W
W<< bet won
L
W
L<< bet lost
W
L
W
W
W


I hope my comments make sense.

Thanks in advance for taking the time to reply to this.

Cheers and look for forward to hearing from you.




PS I am very sorry if you've already explained this in previous emails.

Mate it has been an absolute pleasure for me to answer you.
I would just say to you this.
You certainly have Ability at this Cobber & I wish you well going forward.

Get you Betting to match your Ability & get the Timeline right with your Patterns along with Patience and you Have a STRATEGY That You can win with.

If It Works Do It
If It Don’t Work
Stop It.

Your Friend

Lanky

Hi Lanky,

Just wondering what your current thoughts are on L chasing  (on the LD) after a show of LLLL (chase the Ls until it lost 4 times in a row or a pattern becomes active again).

Without playing the Ls, I had a bad session the other day where I lost just over 50 units (189 spins) . During this (rare) session, can you believe I had 7 bloody Ls in a row (and another 5 of the bastards in a row a bit later). Also, during this hellish session the LW and LWW/LLWS were not happening for me as often they usually do. However, if I had played the Ls when triggered, I would have actually finished the session 10 units up. I know you've said that they can get you in trouble, but as you know mate, they can also get you out of trouble.

I'm now in two minds as to whether I should play the Ls or not  . I'm starting to think that they are essential element to LW hunting and that when things go bad the Ls can really help you out.

What I'm getting at here mate is have you generally found them to get you out of trouble more times than they get you in? For me, so far that is, it seems they do help you more than they hinder...so I guess I've answered my own question. But the problem is that I've not really tested enough sessions to be sure yet...

As always buddy, I look forward to your post.

Cheers


CD

Hi ChickenDinner


Well I do That most of the time now Mate.......and you are spot on Cobber.
You may want to look at the way the Master Victor Does the L's as well.
EG:=LLL << bet Ls >>>www <<stop betting L's
Both of Our ways are right ...It just depends on what patterns are being dispersed from the wheel at that particular Session.

They do make the sessions from Hell a lot easier (when Their L's Of Course )

Nothing except walking away at Your STOP LOSS can stop the Real sessions from Hell.
Like when it don't matter what you do you can't win.

I have seen
9 Ls in a row only once on the LD....and some 7 Ls as well.
But very seldom does it go past 4 or 5 Ls in a row

9 Ls in a row on the JD about 5 times ( thats 10 times the same Dozen )

But the Daddy of then all was last month in a session I played.
There was
13 Ls.. a Zero.. then 4 more Ls on the JC ( Column 1 )
Yep thats right it hit 14 times in a row then a Zero then hit 4 more times in a row.


Look Your a smart guy so I think you are right to learn it....Just do it in Practice 1st...

When you think your ready PM me and I will go through the Lw Notations that you send me that you have done just to make sure your on the right Track Mate.

Another thing is that if your savvy enough you can pick up on a possible L run after it does something like this as well.......wwwwwwwwLwwwwwLwwwwwwwwww(LwL)<<< this could be a trigger that the bad Times for the W's are about to start.
So can the LwL pattern be an Alert to you when Your Playing the Lww pattern & it loses.
I did mention that in the post I did for Renzo recently.


Your doing Good mate...I can tell by the questions you ask.
Just keep practising with fun money at the moment Cobber.

This is not as easy to do as it would seem to appear to be.
But You have caught on Just fine mate.
You just need to fine tune what your doing so that things don't come as a surprise to you when the bad times or runs happen.
Why?? Because You will be ready for them Cobber.

Like Sam says. ( And I have never forgotten it )

"The Roulette wheel could go take a piss in the corner and He would not be surprised."(Lmao @ Sam )

Reach that stage & neither will You my Friend.

Cheer up mate and learn from your mistakes...thats whats important at this stage.

Learn that
Its not how much You win that counts ....Its how much You don't lose that Matters.

As long as we can get you to the stage that you win more then You lose Then we will have done Our Job.

Gees mate we all lose at sometime.....I am not embarrassed to admit that I have lost a session this year.

But I learnt something from it.....
That I am a F/Idiot at least once so far this Year.
( My wife would argue that its a lot more ).....Lmao

Good On Ya Mate

Lanky

Hi ChickenDinner

Mate let me assure You That if it was not for Victor revealing all of His Lw Methods.
None of us would be having the pleasure of even trying it.

I have said this Over & Over....That if $1 is made from the Lw method played the way that I play it then all the Credit belongs to Victor.

Mate all of the patterns will work some of the Time.
But they won't work all of the time.

And because I normally have a 2 stop if you lose betting plan...I don't want this to happen too often.
LLwL...which will & does Happen on occasions doing it your way.
See LLwL< lost now L comes>>now I bet for the W on the LLw pattern and another L hits
So its now LLw(L)L(L) So I would have lost my 2 bets on the L's in Brackets.
Which denies me the chance to go for the W to come after LLL << bet here which hits approx 95%.

Here is some extracts from a session I played on the 8th july 2007 just over a year ago.

Lets see how we would have gone just playing the LLww & The Lww.

I will put the bets in Brackets after they have been activated using your way of doing it.

LwwLLw(L)LwL(L)wLLw(L)wLwwLw(w)wLw(w)Lw(w)Lw(L)Lw(w)Lw(L)LLwwww<<>>9 bets 5 Losses 4wins
then it went
LLw(L)ww.......................................Now its 10 bets 6 Losses & 4wins
LLw(L)Lw(w)...................................Now 12 bets 7 Losses & 5 wins
Lw(w)LLw(L)wwLLw(w).....................Now 15 bets 8 Losses & 7 wins
LLw(L)wLww...................................Now 16 bets 9 Losses & 7 wins
LwwLLw(L)wLwLwwLLw(w)wwLw(L)....Now 19 bets 11 Losses & 8 wins
LLw(L)...........................................Total is 20 bets for 12 Losses & 8 wins.

Remember this is only using the Lww & the LLww as the only winning Patterns.
But Now you can see that the LLwL & the LwL....can play havoc with the LLww & Lww patterns.

After saying all that there is still an argument for using these patterns as well on the W's
Lww.............LwL Kills it
LLww............LLwL Kills it
LLLww..........LLLwL kills it
And there is probably some who would say that after 4Ls or more that the WW could then be bet.

I don't like the Lww so much because the LwL loop kills you.( LwwLwLwwLwLwwLwL etc )
But hey when the patterns running its like money from Heaven.
Still I would steer you to be betting more on the LwLwLw Patterns then the Lww Pattern.

Mate Keep Up The Good Work.
Ask the Questions that need to be Asked.
Keep Practising to get the Timeline right with the whatever Patterns work for You.
If they don't work ....Stop it.

Mate let me say this and I say it in a Humble way not a Smart Arse way.....
Victor & I don't want you ever to be as good as us.....We want you be way better then We could ever be.
Nothing would give us more pleasure then to Learn off You one day.
Or for Us to say to one-another
"Why didn't We think of doing it that way. ??"

Good On Ya Mate

Lanky