Please tell me what you think of these systems

[know when to quit]

True, When I talk about the middle game play this is a topic that starts to take importance. You can see sleeper section in the xs and play those numbers. I cashed in a great play one day when I noticed that the sleeping section was surrounding the number 14. The game was about an hour at the table and the sleeper section was in the first 10 X'S so I placed a surround bet on fourteen. corners split and plein each had 25 units. It hit on 14....I broke stride and shouted. The others around were asking me to explain how I knew, I said it is too complicated to tell you. Most people have never heard of an exponential curve let alone how to play it to their advantage.

[know when to quit]

Any questions  so far, or is this simple to most? I do not think this has been talked about except here, but I am not sure.

[jdanderson]

I have probably tons of questions but I just seen your posts from a couple weeks ago and was sifting through them to try to understand what you are doing just seen your excell file and I am studying that.  Thanks for all the info started playing your system a little to test things out haven't had alot of luck but still decifering some things so keep it coming.  I have a little one too and it gets hard to work on this sometimes.   Just wanted to say thanks and Keep it coming

JD

[jdanderson]

I have a question I am looking at the next bet after spin 8 you were talking about repeat numbers you said you would start thinking on betting on repeat numbers at this time but there were 11 numbers on spin 8 there are only 8 numbers that we are keeping track of do you usually bet on those 8 until that progression hits? and what are the other 3 numbers you are talking about or is that just a type O ?

thanks JD

[seykid29]

First time i hear of this way of play.I take examples from my spin,among some Xs i see 2 numbers with no repeat.I bet on each and its neighbours,6 numbers play.Guess what,one of the numbers do show up .will test some more on paper.I think this way its good on its own.In a way you play numbers that have hits only.
Seykid.
P>S Please post some more,hungry for more

[know when to quit]

Hello all,

Yes sey, perhaps you have a hit on that exact spot this time, but don't for get the odds of that happening again are going to follow the exponential curve for that event next time...single events happen twice as often as double and double, twice as often as triple. This method of play is not a 123 or Target, bet, win or lose, evaluate and start the string again. it is changing after every spin and evaluate which curve to play. One curve I like to play is perhaps jumping the gun a bit to explain but it is certainly worth it. When playing look to see the sequence of your red and black but only at a glance or any other curve. If you have (and this does happen some times) an event of a 1, 2, 3, 4,  or a 1,3,1,3,1 place bets that the sequence will not repeat on the following play......(do you understand this or do I need to explain it further see example below). This method is one of the hardest to learn or teach. It took hundreds or thousands of hours of playing this before I saw what was happening and why it was important but it has really paid off for me....literally.

Here is the test what would you bet next and why.

R R B R B R B R R B R R R B R R R R B R R R R

[Nathan Detroit]

You either go with the  streak , bet against it, or stop betting. I would stop betting until this current streak of REd is over. As an aside  I would have  chosen only ONE dominant  .

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

[John Gold]

R R B R B R B R R B R R R B R R R R B R R R R

RR =1
RB = 2
BB = 3
BR = 4
The groups from the colours above come out as......

1
4
4
4
2 (missing group 3 = BB) Bet for the red on the first result of each subsequent pair.
1 winner
2 winner
1 winner
1 winner
4 loser
1 winner
Next out was red = winner.

Easy money, lol. But not the best way to play. Sorry to interrupt.

[know when to quit]

Probably not one answer is wrong or correct here, but since I was talking about sequences and the curve I will tell you what I see.

R R B R B R B R R B R R R B R R R R B R R R R

reds 2 1 1 2 3 4 ?

Black 1 1 1 1 1 1

The number refers to the number of times in a row they hit. I usually do not play black or red because of low pay out but if this sequence did show I would bet on more than you have many reds and a few black. First I would take the first 2 sequences of reds as sampling chatter and that would leave me with

Reds 1-2-3-4-

I would bet that the next hit would not be a red to make the run a 1-2-3-4-5 if it did hit on red I would then bet that it would not be a run of 5 red by betting that it would become a run of 6 If it does become a run of six then I would change my attention to black and bet that the next time black hits that it will hit again to have a run of 2 breaking the sequence of 6 single black events.

In other words my next bet would be a progression of 6 using the standard martingale why. Lets finish the sequence with some samples

reds 1-2-3-4- you have 4 reds that have hit, bet 100 on black if red hits you not have a 1-2-3-4-possibly a 5 bet 200 on red if red hits you have a rare 1-2-3-4-5, wait for a black then a red to hit again and then start betting that it will not be a 1-2-3-4-5-6

Like I said this is something I keep my eye out for but it is not part of the curve I play, but I will break from playing the curve sometimes to chase the end of a rare sequence.

More later

[know when to quit]

Hey JD,

I was looking trying to see what you are referring to and do not see it.....I do need glasses. Open up any thread with actuals in it and start tracking like I explained in the post with the attachment of the excel sheet. The problem with posting on excel is the screen is not long enough. Ok, Lets start talking about the middle game. When there is as many sleepers as there are numbers with hits on them, place circles around the numbers when a sleeper is hit and under line the square when the hot number is hit. Try to only work with 3 hot numbers at a time. Usually (law of the third does have relevance if you know how to chart it) you will have one shoot way up ahead of the rest as a hot number. Numbers will repeat ever 11 spins in other words if you have 11-20 spins that do not have an x on them start a small progression that they will repeat. choose which of the 11-20 to bet on by your curve you are watching, be sure to constantly watch the curve events of hot numbers to know how often to bet on them. If you are not sure because of inexperience at first always play on hot numbers and green and the first 5 numbers with out X's on them, or better yet to learn what I am talking about track them for a 100 spins and then at home do the graphs to see what I am talking about, the curve applies here as single circled or underlined events happen twice as often as back to back (2 events) events, etc...etc. Next i will explain how to track the first five repeat numbers during a game.   

More later

[know when to quit]

This took me a few trial and errors to come up with, but it works great so that at a glance you can see how well the numbers furthest out are reapeating and at what location they are repeating. Look back at the excel sheet, remember that we are placing an x on the number that repeated, but we are not putting an x on the number that just hit we are placing it on the number that it repeated. Here is a quick example. We are placing the number where the repeat of the first five hit. If in a few spins 6 were to hit the first 6 would also get an x and the 6 that just hit would get a 1. One thing that this will show in a hurry is a large interval with out a hit on the first five but that is not all. I was playing a game once and all that were hitting on the first five locations were  1-2-3-4 but never the five position. I noted the curve that they were falling and when it came time again I played on the 5 position and it hit with 30 units. Let me know if you have any questions. So far all I have written should and I do play all at the same time.


1              1 7 x           
2              2 6
3              3 7 1
4
5
6 2
7 1 3
8
9
10 to
37 or 38

[blu]

KWTQ, thankyou for your contributions and have a Merry Xmas to you and your family.

[know when to quit]

Thank you so much, and I hope all of you were able to spend this day with friends or family.

[know when to quit]

That is really the system or method in a nutshell, the only other type of charting I do while at the table is keep track according to the curve my wins and losses to know when to cash up to the next value. I cant wait to make it to the states again soon, to cash up from 1 to 5 to 10 to 25 to 50 and finally 100, unfortunately where I live now the maximum chip value that you can use with your progression with ease is 5 because the plein max is set at 50. when I make it to the states next. I will be sure to tell you all here where so I can meet some of you if possible.

more later

I will try to answer as many questions as possible, to try to clear up parts that I rushed over.

[blu]

Hi KWTQ, l have tried to summarize your method of play by noting the key parameters. 
Feel free to amend, change, delete etc as necessary.

* Always cover the green
* Back to back averages every 141 spins e. g.  2 or 3 hits in 3 or 4 rolls( l think this happens more than often particularly when waiting for a third repeat)
* Consider numbers without repeats after long sequence
* Numbers with 2 hits to commence progression for a third hit(l have also found often that once a numbers hits a third time then quite likely another of the doubles will follow)
* Middle game play to consider sleeper section
* Cover highest hit number(s) with low progression
* If even spread of numbers commence bet around the cluster of numbers

regards

Blu

PS Any chance you can come to OZ downunder ??

[blu]

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