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Started by know when to quit, June 11, 2009, 02:50:32 AM

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seykid29

KWTQ the way I see it,its hard for you to lose.Right?

know when to quit

I still have times when I lose a session, by that I mean I lose my start cash for that session, but it happens less frequently now. when I was learning this I had some really bad sreaks, they were so unusually bad that I thought the wheel was rigged, so I decided to play several strategies at the same time and that is when things turned around. now, I am not sure when was the last time I lost, but it will happen. most of the time, I watch people come and go at my table, they watch and ask how I play but do not take the time to learn what I am doing, and it is very difficult to explain, but i think from this thread anyone should be able to figure it out. most the time a new pit boss stands over me when I play but cant say anything because it is completly above board. someday i would like to put a program in my cell phone that would take the legwork out of this method but most places do not allow electronic devices of any kind.

know when to quit

Hey Blu,

Just downloaded the excel with the rest of the numbers...looks like I did ok. I remember once when I was playing and the sheet (curve) pointed that 2 numbers were going to hit. I placed surround bets on 17 for 5 spins....nothing. I knew it was going to hit so traded up to 5 unit chips and maxed out all I could and It hit. I then placed the chips on the next which was 35....I normally only place surround bets on the center columns from 5 to 32 avoiding 2 and 35 but this time It was pointing to a sure hit...2 spins later it hit. The pit boss just said, He did it again. Let me know if you have any questions on this or if I can help out further, the only way you can get good at roulette is to play it, sleep it and drink it, till you dream about it. Then it finally starts to make since, but do not become an addict where you lose money, One thing I have found is that you have to have nerves of steel and an Iron will. I played years on the computer before I went into a casino.

blu

Well l do play it, sometimes sleep it, have free drinks at the casino and certainly dream it. Been losing more than often lately though. So l'm trying to expand my knowledge. l have regular small wins but every now and then have a big loss that wipes out my gains. l might try a few dummy runs using your process to see if l can make the right call.

know when to quit

hey blu,

i meant eat, drink and sleep it as a figure of speach to mean all the time but dont let it consume you. you contoll it. the down side of this is it all becomes numbers even when you win, it takes alot of work to not get numb and realize that what you win in one hour is what most people make a month.

blu


seykid29

KWTQ there is potential in this type of play.My only downfall is that i dont have the proper bankroll for now.Been spending so much in presents for festive seasons ;D Last time i was playing just for me to get more spins to bring home,i was plotting graph.Twenties were due,but i had only 100 units as bankroll,so my progression was not able to continue i switch to another strategy.I was telling a friend those numbers were due,damn right when i stop playing,in 5 spins it hits 3 times..damn it,wish i had the cash.And only from graph i notice 2 numbers among the Xs where due.Soon enough in 10 spins both hit. >:(

know when to quit

Sey,

I know exactly what you mean. In fact the reverse is another way to start a bet on a cold table. I was talking a few years ago to a pleasant young woman that was the croupier of a casino in the roulette pit at a river boat in St. Louis. She told me that many times a person will get mad at a number to show and dwindle all their winnings and start cash and stomp away from a table. So I started a new routine that has been very successful to start a play. Sometimes the croupier will tell you and sometimes not, but ask what was the number that the last person was trying to hit on. Many times it will hit just a few spins after the person has left (there is a mathematical reason for this, and yes it has to do with the curve, if you want I can explain later). I think I remember reading somewhere that someone used this as a system for slot machines (I have never played a slot and never will). I think most people, when playing know that the curve exists but have simply never taken the time to explore it, or approach it in an exhaustive way. I use to spiral into a horrible death at a wheel just the way you described until I started combining strategies, trading up at the right time in the curve, having sufficient start cash for the particular table I was at.

You made the best decision with your money, and that was to buy gifts and spend the money you had on your family. Never compromise this, and even if you do bad at the game of roulette you will do great with the game of life.

seykid29

You are right about the game of life.And about reverse play also.That is another great idea i have observe.(but not played) Often when i go to play a person said he has been waiting for a particular number,but if never spins out.Only when he runs out of cash what do you know,it spins out often twice within 8 spins.So keep those ideas coming and also your experience at the table is great to hear,loss or win.
Seykid.

Last Bet

Quote from: know when to quit on December 23, 2011, 01:18:54 PM
Hello all,

This is a bit more writing on my part than I had planned but worth it for wise playing of the curve. attached is an excel sheet with how I play the first 24 spins. The comments are hidden to see them simply mouse over on the red corner of the boxes. I am sure you will have questions and I will try to explain as I can. To understand the sheet better use graph paper...the paper with square light blue boxes. Number it from 1-38 on the left and 1- however long you play is down the middle. When the first number hits write that number beside the 1 down the middle of the page and write the number 1 on the number it hit on at the left of the page (see excel sheet) and do the same with the next numbers that hit. Follow along writing and read the comments as they appear on the numbers to understand this method better.

More later

Hi KWTQ

Thank you for your example. Would you please continue or add more on the same excel example.

Thank you and Happy New Year.



know when to quit

Hello Last Bet,

Thanks for re posting Sey´s question. I get going down rabbit trails sometimes and forget my way back. I will use graph paper to post more examples. The problem is this: any critic can say, that because they are controlled spins where the outcome is known I adjusted the way I play to make it look good. I avoid this forum many times because there is no way to refute this and anyone who tries to counter this will be easily met and overpowered by them. That is one of the reasons I asked for Blu to give me numbers on an excel sheet...but, it was extremely short term that anyone could see. If we can look past this then I will continue with more examples. I will say that all comments (except one....but I understand why he said what he did and do not fault him for it) have been extremely polite. Some people will say, OK, where is the hook behind this bait. There is not one. I am trying to share a system that has done very well for (plus I have some free time while waiting for the land purchase to go through) me, and I have seen way too many people get taken by the house edge and playing the wrong side of the curve that they didn't even know existed. I will never sell this and do not need to. The unique thing about a good method of play is that you do not have a competitor no matter how many play the same method. Everyone will win the same. I have sat at a table many times and after I quit the person beside me thanks me because they have won by placing bets on mine, we both left winners. I will post more soon.


Last Bet

Thank you for taking time to answer our questions. I am one of many here believe in the system. 

Again, thank you and happy new year.

know when to quit

Hello all,

had a free hour yesterday a decided to go to the roulette table, my start cash of 700 got wipped out by a run of 26 numbers with only 2 repeats. i compared (using the curve) my other days starting plays and knew that it was not bound to repeat. today i went back and told the lady i was here on revenge. i played agressive and cleared 6000+ it drew quite a crowd especially when i noticed that 5 was due to hit, it took several spins but i kept up the progression and won over 3000 when it hit. upon leaving one person asked to borrow money the other met me at the door and i introduced him to this forum, a bright person who will do well here. more later.


seykid29

Congratulations KWTQ.Can you please post this session of play for us.Thank you.

seykid29

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