Please tell me what you think of these systems

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Hello spinners and friends,

How is your playing going with this system. Has anyone been experimenting with this since my last postings.
I am convinced if you do not pay attention to the exponential curve all systems will break eventually.
kwtq

[klw]

Hi KWTQ  --  I'm newish to roulette and this is 1 thread that really captured my attention for the longest time. I love the curve , I use it all the time , it is invaluable and I'd like to thank you for sharing it.

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Hello KLW,

If you understand the curve you are ahead of most. Unfortunately there is very little written about it as applied to roulette. To me it is the only way to understand what is going on and is the only way to come out ahead, really ahead. I now limit my plays to 30 minutes to 1 hour and like to play when the casino is almost empty. I play with a complete flower of 140 chips valued at 25 each chip. It may sound strange playing with chips that high but to me it is just numbers not money. I always walk away after winning 3000.00. I always bet on the inside and use a small progression of 1,1,2,3 . The most difficult thing for me was to come up with a way of charting the flow of numbers spun that would allow me to see the curve easier. Once accomplished it made all the difference in the world as far as winning,  I also realized that it did not just apply to roulette but all games of chance, and all events with random outcomes. I think many people play the curve to their advantage subconsciously. I hope this thread will bring it more out in the open. It is the only method I play.  Keep reading and let me know your view or questions you may have. Once again I would never charge a cent for this method. Just hope you can use it to your advantage.

KWTQ

[marvin]

welcome back kwtq
hope you will stay for a while as i need to have some inquiries if i am playing it correctly.
maybe for starters can you check and confirm if i am getting it correct? kindly see my post in page 23-24

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hi Marvin thanks for your comments I'll try to stick around a little bit longer this time to help out your questions and to help out others that might have questions also. one thing I noticed that you're saying is if this happens then this will happen. and that's a dangerous trap to get in I know we like to have absolute but when you're watching the curve there are not really absolute to play with, other than the curve. I hope that doesn't sound to contradictory if it does I'll show you more what I'm talking about later. there is a way to rapidly graph your numbers the fall and plot them to the curve. the new way of graphing is the way I came up with about a year ago that helped me out quite a bit. you always have to play according to the exponential curve and you always have to run several curves at the same time.

[klw]

Hi KWTQ -- Thanks for the reply and glad you are going to stick around for a while.

I don't know if I have grasped the curve as perhaps you have but I have definitely found a way to use it to my advantage.It is a great pointer in telling me when I should be looking to bet and even more importantly when I should not be betting.This is invaluable.

A question I have is when you are using a system ( of maybe 4 or 5 for a particular session ) that has 30 pieces of data ( hits ) in its curve , do you split it down into say 3 sub curves of 10 in each , I do this as it highlights bets ( or non bets ) on the short term curve as well as the longer term full session curve. Of course this is a lot easier to do sitting at home than in a casino,but as I don't live anywhere near a casino it's an essential part now of what I do each day.

Any examples you can give demonstrating how you would use the curve would be greatly appreciated by me and I'm sure many others out there,especially your new way of graphing the numbers to the curve and maybe some more examples of how you play now.


Cheers.

[marvin]

hi Marvin thanks for your comments I'll try to stick around a little bit longer this time to help out your questions and to help out others that might have questions also.

Thank you very much! 

one thing I noticed that you're saying is if this happens then this will happen. and that's a dangerous trap to get in I know we like to have absolute but when you're watching the curve there are not really absolute to play with, other than the curve. I hope that doesn't sound to contradictory if it does I'll show you more what I'm talking about later.

I agree.  overtime since I last posted that statement I learned lots of things about roulette, one of them is we tried to do things mechanically when it isn't supposed to.

there is a way to rapidly graph your numbers the fall and plot them to the curve. the new way of graphing is the way I came up with about a year ago that helped me out quite a bit. you always have to play according to the exponential curve and you always have to run several curves at the same time.

That graph would really help, I am still waiting for 20-24 spins before starting to bet. not to mention the tracking of ECs & Dozens.

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I will have more time this afternoon, or in about 3 hours to write more. But, for now I will touch on how to start the game. If you are not sure what to play, or you are a beginner. let the others at the table play while you take note. Jump in when you are confident that a curve is happening to your advantage. If you are the only one at the table then look over your past records of your starting play. If you notice according to the curve that a sector or trend is happening then place bets on those sectors that the trend will not continue to happen, but according to the curve, not just because it does or does not happen often. Many times an anomaly will happen but once you look at the curve you see that it was not an anomaly but the timing was dictated because of the curve. If you see that you do not have any previous reliable data to go by then place bets on 0 or 00 for about 5-6 spins until you have evidence on your graph to play ( I will post the graph later). If you are not sure what to play sit out and organize your thoughts till you are confident. Never, Never get mad at a sector or number, watch those that do and play theirs after they leave.....this can sometimes be comical. These are the curves I try to keep in my mind while playing. Repeats (usually happen every 141 spins), Always play green but play heavier bets when the curve dictates. Split your wheel up in ( 00 wheel) in 4 sectors do not play the way the table is laid out (I will explain later), then play those sectors according to the curve. Odd numbers even numbers are great for the new way I graph. How the curve is playing out with the table layout and then check that with your graph. How the graph is bunching up. How the sectors of my graph are being hit according to the curve. Play green and no more than 9 other numbers (this works well with MY way of playing. Track your losses according to the curve and your winnings. This is just the beginning of my list.....and I realize that I will have to give examples of each list I am talking about.........be patient the explanation will happen over time. If you are looking for a quick learn way of playing do not look here. But if you are looking for a method that will take months to learn and a way to play that pays out please learn how to dance with the numbers in this system and do not be taken in by any system that any person is selling. 

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Hello again,
Looks like it will be more than just three hours I have to pick up medicine my daughter and son are both sick. I will write more later on this evening.

[ausguy]

kwtq - Would you comment on Birdhands post #371 dated June 19 2012 where he responded to your post #370 above his dated June 15 2012.

I quote birdhands post re: part of your post " When I find time to play"

Birdhands then asks you, "How hard is it to find the time to make thousands of dollars per hour"?

By my calculations from your earnings in your #370 post you should be at least over $3 million in profit by now ?  I can only summise that not having time to play means you have a more lucrative income stream ?

I don't recall knowing about any multi millionaires on these forums ?

Does anyone smell a PORK PIE here?   

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Hello birdhands, sorry for not answering your post a while back. I can't make it to the casinos as much as I would like to because of the work I do, and by the way I live in a country that is very very poor doing social work. I have given thousands away in community projects, orphanages, water projects and try to keep where the money comes from a secret. I am much more comfortable talking about the curve than the help I am giving to others. Feel free to ask the moderator about my ip address. As far as my winnings like I said before you can call me at an agreed upon time and you can talk to one of the casino workers and hear from them about how I play. But I hope you speak Spanish. I do not play in dollars although I wish I did. If you have any other questions just ask.

good luck birdhands

kwtq

Do you want to talk about me or the curve?

[klw]

I for 1 would like to learn more about the curve and the way you play. There are plenty of other threads to keep the non believers busy.

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Ok klw, where were we. I will post my new way to chart the numbers that make it easier to see the curve.

I Know there are many skeptics, and that is expected and ok. Little by little you will see. The last seven days I purchased a new galaxy s4 (great phone by the way I am using it now), nokia 920 for another person, sound equip for a very poor school here, micro loan to help a person here start a new business, and some games for a children's home. All from my winnings last week. Today I will go back to the casino and win 3000.00 in an hour or less and will post the receipt with the name and date from the casino here. Please do not think I am bragging, I am just telling you what I do.....the keys are way too small on this phone.

[klw]

Hi kwtq -- I don't believe you are bragging and looking forward to the next post.

By the way I don't know if you know but if you turn the phone sideways the display turns horizontal and the keys get much bigger , I can never be bothered reading all the stuff that comes with the phones and only found out by accident after struggling with the smaller keys lol.Apologies if you already know this. 

[kes]

please do let me know as well... i am very interested...lost and win on roulette with my own system... still need to fine tune

[kes]

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