Please tell me what you think of these systems

[marvin]

looking forward on how you graph those numbers

[know when to quit]

Hello,

I was a bit late in getting to the casino I got there at 12:34 instead of 12:15. I wrote down my graph on paper before I got to the casino so I was ready to play, checked my previous days of playing so that I knew what sector to start out with.  my start cash was 3500 units I got a hit immediately on the first spin and cashed out after 11 spins with six hits, after winning 3375.00 gave 25 in tips and paid 5 for parking. I was there from 12:34 to 1:11 unfortunately it was a very easy game so it will be very boring to explain why I played the way playedplease understand this is not the normal I'm usually there for closer to an hour but with the same result upon leaving I asked the clerk if she would give me a receipt of my winnings and she refused I talked to the pit boss and he refused also so I took a picture with my camera on my phone of the graph I used and the money I won but it's so high file size I can't upload it now I will upload it when I get back to the house.

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Still waiting to get home. I tried uploading the pic to photo bucket but that didn't work. Be patient.

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Yes! It worked. I will explain when I get home.

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Ok, horrible picture, you can not even make out the numbers or words hardly on the notebook. I found the steady shot button on my phone after I took the shot. I will post a much better one and explain why I chose the new way of tracking the numbers that I do. I used to have a good to average game winning more than losing. I found it made a huge difference when I changed the layout of the wheel on my paper. Instead of using numbers 1 - 36 in 4 equal sections I decided still split them up in four section but change the layout to:

Section 1
11
13
15
17
19
21
23
25
28
Section 2
1
3
5
7
9
29
31
33
35
Section 3
12
14
16
18
20
22
24
26
27
Section 4
2
4
6
8
10
30
32
34
36
then by themselves
0
00

This changed my game completly. I then needed a way to mark the sections that showed when they would hit and at the same time would show me quickly how the curve was happening. I will explain this tomarrow because it is a bit detailed.

[marvin]

thank you for that proof pic kwtq, i hope this will silence some of the skeptics.

does it mean you are now betting base on wheel and on the curve?  f this is so, then wow it almost like with kimo li on a macro level will i like it kwtq

next challenge will be the betting part, which part of the curve we are going to bet

[klw]

Thanks for all this kwtq  --- Interesting way of graphing the sections. I have noticed that if you concentrate on the hottest 1 or 2 sections , they repeat quite quickly ( filling in the top of the curve and so this the reason why you use a small progression ? ) and also these repeats fall into 2 categories --- a. they either hit the the same sub group ( ROL ) etc. or b. they hit the other sub group within that section which means you can reduce your bets to 4 or 5 numbers with the further assistance of a sub curve for these repeat patterns it then becomes very interesting. I'm beginning to like this more and more. Of course I may be totally wrong in how you play and can't wait for you to show us but at least I'm having a go lol. Maybe you cross reference with what's hitting at the time elsewhere like red / black etc ?

Anyways looking forward to your reply.

[ausguy]

Marvin - That Guatemalan money in the pic equals about $430USD. How that is proof of anything escapes me ? In kwtqs post #370 in June last year he says he's had wins in the 10,000 - 17,000 range, so 3,375 is relative small potatoes for his usual wins ?  17k = $2,170USD.

When you & others present pics & details of your constant large wins via the curve, then skeptics can concede and perhaps turn into true believers.

Nothing succeeds like success. Since 2009 this topic has run. Up until recent posts the thread was dormant for nearly a year ?
Why would it stop if players were winning heaps ? They lose interest and stop because they realise that they are getting nowhere as they try and make the method win for them. Why keep on losing money ?

I've read a lot of the 26 pages of posts and can't find any other posters that have claimed CONSISTANT wins like kwtq ?

Do the maths - @ 10,000 per day @ 5 days per week = 50,000 pw = about 2.5 million pa & at say 3 1/2 years (approx. post run time) = 8.75 million.

Even @ 10% of that = 875,000 can anyone lay claim to making that amount ?    Even 1% = 87.5k ?
The currency amounts are all relative, they could be in USD, GBP, Euro or other. Table limits are pretty similar where-ever you play.

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You make some good points. The main reason I keep my winnings down to 3000.00 per day, and I do not go every day is quite  honestly I am scared to death that I will get killed. Honestly,  because this is so difficult to explain how to play successfully the curve is bothersome. I could be just incredible lucky.....or there is really something to this way of playing. I have been researching this for many many years, show me a better way to play and I will switch, but I can walk in any day and repeat what I did yesterday. I asked the clerk yesterday who is your top constant winner in roulette, and she said no one only you. What the heck would you do? Yes, it is only about $460.00 or better put. A month and a halfs teachers salary in 34 minutes.

[Davemd]

Hi KWTQ

''I asked the clerk yesterday who is your top constant winner in roulette, and she said no one only you. What the heck would you do?''

May I ask where in the wolrd you are ?

Dave.

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Guatemala city.

[marvin]

ausguy i understand your point but for some reason kwtq doesnt go to the casino everyday. and its unfair to equate that the currency of different regions thats why we are just using units regardless of the currency. and tocut this arguement short why dont you call the local casino that kwtq played and verify? im sure you wont be having a hard time as kwtq claims that he is kinda well known in that casino. is it fair enough?

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Marvin. After my cold reception I got yesterday I really doubt they would give out that kind of info. We could try though and see how it goes. There will always be critics and rightfully so until this is proven by math or by somone else. Do not bielieve any system just because someone flashes money prove it yourself!

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Here is a clearer picture. With previous plays. Each previous photo won around 3000.00 -  3500. 00 unites.

[ausguy]

kwtq -  "Show you a better way to play" I can't do that but I can suggest a better place to play.   As you are in a relative poor country anyone, especially "foreigners", can be perceived as being rich &/or generous. No matter how careful you think you might be, being the top consistant winner will eventually bring focus on you from criminals. Besides casinos don't like consistant winners taking their money.

Being generous within poor communities who will always percieve you as a rich man. Many people have envy/greed/jealousy/low regard for life.

A better place to play ? Another country ?  USA maybe ? A casino somewhere that relates to 1st world money values.

If your method is successful you could win high amounts by playing multiple hours over multiple days & with the USD exchange rate you could return with x 1,000 more than you win locally. Nobody local should then know of your improved financial position.

A foundation of some type is a good way to distribute money as the money is "donated" by wealthy other people from rich countries (actually your funds). This takes
the focus of your "fat" wallet.

Your abscence on a regular basis would be under the guise of more fund raising (not untrue) with a visit to your favourite casino.

Whatever the circumstances putting your life at risk is not an option. Get out of the place if you sense danger. You can still give people financial assistance from outside the country.   

[ausguy]

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