Please tell me what you think of these systems

[know when to quit]

Excellent advise!

KWTQ

[ausguy]

Marvin - If you go back a few posts & read kwtqs post 29th @ 8:30pm you will see him mention of RESTRICTING HIS EARNINGS for fear of a rich man in a poor country getting killed for his money.

As to calling the casino re : his winnings, that's ridiculous. They wouldn't give out private information like that. No casino would. Even nwtq can't get proof of that as he's previously posted about.

You misunderstand what I'm getting at with the currency differences. Yes the units are the same but the unit values are not.

For the same play effort at a 1st world currency casino you can earn many multiples of currency of a 2nd or 3rd world country. In nwtqs case nearly x8 more in USD.

If you played in the UK the GBP converted would be around x12.
 
Switch it around and lets have you win 10,000 Quetzals (QTZ), (those type of notes in the photo by nwtq) at the Guatemalan casino you visit, when you exchange the money you'd get around $1,275USD.
Win in Las Vegas and pocket $10k USD. (78k QTZ)  Win 10k GBP in the UK and you get maybe $15k USD. (117k QTZ).

Keeping all this in perspective, a school teacher in Guatelmala earns about $77 USD per week. So a $10k win at Vegas = 2 1/2 years hard slog for the teacher.

Naturally the bankrolls need to reflect the currency & table limits of the country you are in. Which camp would you be in ? Less money for the same effort or more money for the same effort ?

A lot of this has already been discussed in my other most recent post of 11:01am to kwtq. which I'm sure you have read.

[marvin]

Ausguy, I totally understand your point and i will totally agree with it if i am looking this thread from your perspective .
Lets takeout the money/unit/W/L part and look at the substance of kwtq's system on what are his bases on how he was able to conceived of this system. I believe that you read this thread from page one and you will notice how this system evolved, from sleepers to hottest, table to wheel layout, mechanical to ball movement & many more.
If you have read other system in this forum you will notice that this system has some elements of  best known system in this forum like winkels GUT & kimo lis GPM

[marvin]

kwtq, whats the x mark for? what does it symbolize?

[know when to quit]

hi Marvin, the X is on the left side of the sequential numbers are where I mark when the first 5 numbers have been hit. for instance if I see that I have done maybe 10 spins and the first 5 numbers have not hit as a repeat or hit again then I will see what sector those first 5 numbers are in and place an extra chip on those numbers. there should have been two x's if I remember correctly on that sheet but when I saw how well it was going on I knew that I didn't have to bother with that. I focused more on instead of breaking up that 313131 sequence I'm talking about the first picture or the game I played yesterday. if anyone is still interested I'll explain the first picture of the game I played yesterday spin for spin and how I plotted on the sheet. I don't know if I mentioned this or not but I only play now on a live wheel.

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If anyone is interested I will explain tomarrow how I filled in the paper from the game I played yesterday, step by step? By looking at the pictures you probably already figured it out but hopefully I can fill in some answers.

KWTQ

[marvin]

Thanks KWTQ, please continue.
ill post my observation/comment/how i understand later as im already running late to office  


ciao!

[klw]

Hi kwtq -- I am interested in you posting your comments. Please don't let negative comments put you off doing this,I would like to learn more about the game of roulette isen't that 1 of the main purposes of this forum , I am certainly not interested in how much a teacher earns in Guatemala !!!

Foot note -

I doubt any animals will be hurt in the making of this thread , we've all got play accounts right ?

[klw]

If anyone is interested I will explain tomarrow how I filled in the paper from the game I played yesterday, step by step? By looking at the pictures you probably already figured it out but hopefully I can fill in some answers.

KWTQ

Nope , I can't figure it out , I am obviously not clever enough.

[ausguy]

Klw - OK wise guy lets roll the clock forward & assume you are up to speed with this curved game method and winning large amounts at your favourite casino.

What country would you play in and what would your bankroll be ? What does a teacher earn in your country?  It's called earnings relativity.

You seem to have failed to grasp that concept ?

Humans are animals too, do you know ?  kwtq has already spoken of the possibilty of being killed for his casino winnings there in Guatemala.

Some of the comments on here are unpalatable to you so you call them negative ?  I suggest you, when in a calm frame of mind, revisit those posts and take on board some valid points of view. eg Why the long time spans between posts ? Why are the "true believers" of earlier years no longer around these days ?

As they were, you are. As they are, you may well be ?

[klw]

@ausguy  -- Your points of view to me are irrelevant,your questions to me are irrelevant , I can but don't want to grasp any of your concepts, as far as I'm concerned it just takes the thread where it doesen't need to go. I am here to learn kwtq's method / system and I'm sure many others would too.Your posts are hardly encouraging him to want carry on posting,before he popped his head up a few days ago this forum was seriously quiet,it woulden't take much for it to go back there really quickly.

This will be my one and only reply directly to you on this thread.If you wish to communicate with me directly then PM me. I am not wasting any more of my time on this.

@kwtq -- What systems do you play now , you are obviously doing the first 5 numbers as a repeat and playing the sections , do you do any others ?

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Just a note before I start explaining how I keep track of numbers. Where you live and the economy and the political state of the country dictate how you play. I remember talking by posts on a Vegas forum to a person who was incredible knowledgeable about how casinos operate. He said he was in charge of either security or the entire casino, I do not remember. I asked what he would do if a person was a constant winner at a roulette table. He responded, he would first see if his system was one of the known systems run it through the math from his staff and if the system would crash eventually he would send his staff on him to offer him perks or ........he called it something else, to get him to stick around. If the way of playing was based on Clocking, some other marking system or an unknown edge that would win he would remove him from his casino. Aside from that there is a huge misconception about being able to win. You think that if you could win consistently all you would have to do is go to a casino or several for the rest of your life and kick back. It could not be furthest from the truth. It would kill you because it is the most unsatisfying way to live. I know you are going to say "losing is worse", then do not play. I have been playing and researching this as a science for over......15-17 years and am convinced the curve is the only way to come out ahead, consistently ahead. Do I lose.....YES!.....but very seldom. Does it bother that you criticize the method I play or me. I wouldn't be here, where I live, stuck it out this long, if I had thin skin. Usually what any critic has to say is worth taking a long look at. You may have to wade through a lot of junk but you had better pay attention especially if they back it up with math. Ok, enough said.

History:
The problem with my old way of marking the numbers was several fold. I spent too much time writing and would miss hits, it also did not give me a way to at a glance plot curves. By plotting curves I mean frequency/curve between hits of sectors, frequency of wins, loses, when repeats hit/back to back numbers, when sleepers would hit, even when highs or lows would hit (for instance 20 spins and nothing above 28 has hit.....but be careful not to use any one by itself because math will prove that it could go on longer than you think and drain your start cash). Others I use also but don't need to mention, not because they don't matter but because they are endless. Use what is comfortable to you. Remember to use the curve, if you are not sure what it is go back and study it. The spaces between hits follow an exponential curve. I also realized that this method could easily be applied to the lottery or any other game of chance. I have never taken on that daunting task, yet.

To date:
The new way of plotting allows you to easily see if the sectors are hitting evenly and if a sector has not hit in a while and the intervals they hit. It shows sequences that are weird that you know can not keep up forever. It will even show you why a sector has hit a certain number of times in a row.....but that will take some time to explain. Let's take the game from 2 days ago. I did not go back yesterday because I still have money from 2 days ago. At this point please look at the excel sheet to understand the way I wrote down the spins. It should be self explanatory. I will go into the reasons I played why I did after you have a chance to look the sheet over. Start at spin 1. It is an excel  sheet format. If you do not have excel ask one of the members to screen shoot and post. No problem for me.

KWTQ

[marvin]

errmmm ... in you excel, on spin 9, arent we supposed to mark x on spin 7 as it the latest occurance of the same sector? 

correct?

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Ill check to see if I can open it on this phone. I do have a horrible habbit of typos

[know when to quit]

Yes. 3 hit thats sec 2 x on 7 position 3. I cant open the file. What did I write? I was looking at my book.

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