Please tell me what you think of these systems

[klw]

Hi klw, yes its the s/d of the positions that recently hit, more like we will follow the last 2 positions that hit. and ofcrse we cannot always follow the last 2 its not as simple as that, thats why I mentioned before that if you have the following positions 1234, instead of betting 3 & 4 positions, its better to bet on 234. that would be less volatility for you. but for me as ive mentioned before I will bet on 2.

as we all know, it is better to bet on hot numbers rather than on cold numbers.

PS.
the total number of each position won't matter.  hmmm would it might be what KWTQ is referring about intervals? idont know 

Hi Marvin -- Thanks for the reply. This is probably me just trying to make sure I understand you 100 % but where you say :-

" but for me as ive mentioned before I will bet on 2. "

Are you saying that you bet on 2 positions now because your previous examples showed that you were only betting on position 3 or are you saying that you bet on position 2 now ?

Also I have been analysing the suggestion you made about what you call the even chances and from my small data sample to date it has not improved results.Maybe just 1 of those things so I will carry on for now.

Well done on the casino wins by the way.


Cheers.

[KapsobaDum]

Not really, as I only know one curve(not even an expert), and still have to stand up and walk away when I can see that the curve is getting weird.

although I have to admit that ive already made 2K on 2 sat**days using this concept on a 150BR.
which is just enough to cover my losses on sic bo and craps 

@Marvin : Thank you for the reply. May I know how much your starting chips? What is the profit percentage?

[marvin]

Hi Marvin -- Thanks for the reply. This is probably me just trying to make sure I understand you 100 % but where you say :-

" but for me as ive mentioned before I will bet on 2. "

Are you saying that you bet on 2 positions now because your previous examples showed that you were only betting on position 3 or are you saying that you bet on position 2 now ?

Also I have been analysing the suggestion you made about what you call the even chances and from my small data sample to date it has not improved results.Maybe just 1 of those things so I will carry on for now.

Well done on the casino wins by the way.


Cheers.

yeah it could be or it could be not I got 1 session here that didnt really improve.

as for changing of position, it not exactly that I only bet on 2. I bet on either 2 or 3 depends on thecurve.

say we have the following curves:

1234 - I will bet on 2
12334 - I will bet on 3
12234 - I will bet on 2
12344 - I will bet on 3

[klw]

yeah it could be or it could be now I got 1 session here that didnt really improve.

as for changing of position, it not exactly that I only bet on 2. I bet on either 2 or 3 depends on thecurve.

say we have the following curves:

1234 - I will bet on 2
12334 - I will bet on 3
12234 - I will bet on 2
12344 - I will bet on 3

Hi Marvin - Thanks for that. I can see what you are doing.I will do some analysis myself to see if I can find anything that will help with profitability.


Cheers.

[litiki777]

Marvin, regarding your post #530 (nolinks://nolinks.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=10230.530), I guess you are choosing the sector to play by using the last position ?  For example, on spin 15, the position is 3 and at spin 14, the position is 4.  If not, please explain how to. I am still stuck at how to interpret  the curve. Thanks! May the CURVE be with you !!!!

[marvin]

Marvin, regarding your post #530 (nolinks://nolinks.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=10230.530), I guess you are choosing the sector to play by using the last position ?  For example, on spin 15, the position is 3 and at spin 14, the position is 4.  If not, please explain how to. I am still stuck at how to interpret  the curve. Thanks! May the CURVE be with you !!!!

hi litiki,

ive made some adjustment lately.
looking back at that curve in reply #528, in the post that you are referring to, i was betting on position 4.

spin 13 is position 1
spin 14 is position 4
spin 15 is position 3


now based on what ive said in reply #557 i should have bet on position 1 (and also based on the running totals, position 1 is a hot position) and should have won.

[jrhelp007]

I'm playing on an American Roulette (0/00).

Can someone please layout the sectors for me. Meaning mapping the sectors to the group of numbers on the above roulette.

Thank you,

John

[jrhelp007]

Hi Marvin,

I sent you 2 private messages.

Thanks,

John

[litiki777]

hi litiki,

ive made some adjustment lately.
looking back at that curve in reply #528, in the post that you are referring to, I was betting on position 4.

spin 13 is position 1
spin 14 is position 4
spin 15 is position 3


now based on what ive said in reply #557 I should have bet on position 1 (and also based on the running totals, position 1 is a hot position) and should have won.

Thanks Marvin/
1. I could see pos=1 is a hot position (sum=5) but dont see what factors you use to select it. Why not '2' which is a sleeper for a long time?

2. Second question regarding your first crossing point charts (reply#354). I am trying to derive an equation for the crossing point. I would like to confirm with you to make sure that my calculation is correct. Based on the information on your 3 graphs, I find that X=0.90 for the first graph, X=1.39 for the second graph and X=1.76 on the third.  If they are correct than we can say when X < 1.5, bet on numbers which  have 0s hit and when X>1.5, bet on numbers has 1 hit.

[klw]

This thread is becoming quite big and it's obvious that some people can't be bothered or simply don't have the time to read the thread from the beginning,so I thought I would try to help narrow it down a little.

You need to read the early part of the thread especially where he describes how to note down a curve , what to look for and how to play it. kwtq has adapted his style of playing over the years so some of what he wrote early in the thread I believe he doesen't use now but some he does.

To learn his latest way of playing you only need to start at the top of page 26 where he re-appears after yet another long absence.

Best results of course should come by reading the whole thread.


@jrhelp007 the sector information for 0/00 wheels is on page 28 post 416 and for 0 wheels on page 31 post 454.

[klw]

Why do my posts need to be approved by a moderator ?

[marvin]

I'm playing on an American Roulette (0/00).

Can someone please layout the sectors for me. Meaning mapping the sectors to the group of numbers on the above roulette.

Thank you,

John

Hi John,

kindly follow the url that i provided in Reply #539 in creating the sectors.

[marvin]

Thanks Marvin/
1. I could see pos=1 is a hot position (sum=5) but dont see what factors you use to select it. Why not '2' which is a sleeper for a long time?

generally in roulette,  don't bet on sleepers as you wont know how long they can actually sleep.

2. Second question regarding your first crossing point charts (reply#354). I am trying to derive an equation for the crossing point. I would like to confirm with you to make sure that my calculation is correct. Based on the information on your 3 graphs, I find that X=0.90 for the first graph, X=1.39 for the second graph and X=1.76 on the third.  If they are correct than we can say when X < 1.5, bet on numbers which  have 0s hit and when X>1.5, bet on numbers has 1 hit.

yes

[jrhelp007]

Thanks KLW and Marvin for your replies.

In  terms of not betting in general on sleepers because you don't know how long it will be in that mode , it's true. I have seen  42 spins going on before a sleeper number returned.

In term of this system/approach since you're are betting on selective sector(s) some of its numbers may be part of the sleepers.   

Any comments?

John

[jrhelp007]

Is anyone reading this post and know Excel spreadsheets can code a spreadsheet for both the American and the European roulette's?

Basically what we will need to do is to enter the first 9 to 12 numbers of the roulette numbers. Thereafter the logic code in Excel will follow the approach on this post. Basically will tell us which sector to bet?

Thank you,

John

[jrhelp007]

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