Please tell me what you think of these systems

[jrhelp007]

Looking forward to your modified approach.

Thanks,

John

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Hello again,

I will be going to the states soon and pass by several areas where there are many casinos, if interested in seeing this method played personal message me and I hope we can connect in your area. I will let you know how this turns out tomarrow as well. Who knows someday I may even make it to vegas.

[jrhelp007]

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Today, I sent you two (2) private messages please respond.

Thanks,

John

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Well I went to casino at about 12:30 and left at 1:30 the first time. I knew that I had a lot riding on this visit so I started with a high bank roll of 1100 units. I want to play high and fast so that if I did win I wouldn't draw attention. I recognized all the people sitting around the golden casino wheel. You place bets like a video game but the wheel is a live mechanical wheel. I was able to see them set it up several years ago so I knew that it was operated purely by mechanics and computer software. I was always leery before that they could control the fall of the ball by fancy software or by tubes blowing puffs of air on the right slot at just the right time so I inspected it at a distance when they were installing it. Ok, how did the game go. I started out charting what numbers that were suppose to fall the next time a series of non sleeper numbers would show and placed split bets, corner bets and one plein on the number. It took a while but it did hit on my number. I did that with 17-25-0 and 1 which hit, I played sleepers and hot numbers with straight bets of 25 and 30 units but not playing them all the time because that would be against the sys and would surely lose, I played them according to the exponential curve. I cashed out the first time with 5005 units. When they gave me my money the said they would have to charge me 13% taxes, Ok, this is something that they do and get away with all the time where I currently live, but this time it ticked me off. So I told them ok, then I will go back and play and recover the money for "taxes". I went back and put in 300 units and after 30 min of work.....not play, cashed out at another 2000 units.
Thanks for the e-mails, and I understand all who have written me that want to understand this way/sys of play. I will try to explain this further but it is going to take a lot of practice on your part on the computer first. Do not try any new system on a live wheel (my opinion), unless you have cash to blow. You will usually walk away defeated. Please do not private mail me on how to play this.....I will answer all messages on how to play this way open on the board, free.
A couple of observations about this. I always thought that if anyone did discover a winning system then all they would have to do is practically live at a casino and rake it in. This could not be further from the truth. People have their own personal life that they have to live, and the social life at work can never be replaced by sitting all day at a wheel. This is probably why the casinos are very smug and safe in making their money. It is just not practical for 99% of the average people to make a living at a casino even if they had a great system, mentally they are not up to it. I think it will always be a recreation that like all can eat your lunch or you can eat theirs with smart play.
To be more concice I will be in the saint Louis Chicago area next time I am in the states and look forward playing/working there.
Have fun
O, I asked the casino to give me vouchers of my winnings if you would like I can show these.

[MauiSunset]

Well I went to casino at about 12:30 and left at 1:30 the first time. I knew that I had a lot riding on this visit so I started with a high bank roll of 1100 units. I want to play high and fast so that if I did win I wouldn't draw attention. I recognized all the people sitting around the golden casino wheel. You place bets like a video game but the wheel is a live mechanical wheel. I was able to see them set it up several years ago so I knew that it was operated purely by mechanics and computer software. I was always leery before that they could control the fall of the ball by fancy software or by tubes blowing puffs of air on the right slot at just the right time so I inspected it at a distance when they were installing it. Ok, how did the game go. I started out charting what numbers that were suppose to fall the next time a series of non sleeper numbers would show and placed split bets, corner bets and one plein on the number. It took a while but it did hit on my number. I did that with 17-25-0 and 1 which hit, I played sleepers and hot numbers with straight bets of 25 and 30 units but not playing them all the time because that would be against the sys and would surely lose, I played them according to the exponential curve. I cashed out the first time with 5005 units. When they gave me my money the said they would have to charge me 13% taxes, Ok, this is something that they do and get away with all the time where I currently live, but this time it ticked me off. So I told them ok, then I will go back and play and recover the money for "taxes". I went back and put in 300 units and after 30 min of work.....not play, cashed out at another 2000 units.
Thanks for the e-mails, and I understand all who have written me that want to understand this way/sys of play. I will try to explain this further but it is going to take a lot of practice on your part on the computer first. Do not try any new system on a live wheel (my opinion), unless you have cash to blow. You will usually walk away defeated. Please do not private mail me on how to play this.....I will answer all messages on how to play this way open on the board, free.
A couple of observations about this. I always thought that if anyone did discover a winning system then all they would have to do is practically live at a casino and rake it in. This could not be further from the truth. People have their own personal life that they have to live, and the social life at work can never be replaced by sitting all day at a wheel. This is probably why the casinos are very smug and safe in making their money. It is just not practical for 99% of the average people to make a living at a casino even if they had a great system, mentally they are not up to it. I think it will always be a recreation that like all can eat your lunch or you can eat theirs with smart play.
To be more concice I will be in the saint Louis Chicago area next time I am in the states and look forward playing/working there.
Have fun
O, I asked the casino to give me vouchers of my winnings if you would like I can show these.

I live in St. Louis and would gladly meet you at any casino you name.

I am on vacation:

Feb 18 - 22, Park City, UT

Feb 26 - Mar 13, Maui

If your schedule places you in St. Louis when I'm home please PM and I'll be there.

[jrhelp007]

Great performance, congratulation on your winnings.

We are looking forward to your post on how to play your latest modified system/approach.

Thanks,

John

[darrynf]

I applied to this thread a couple of weeks ago and you never got back to me know when to quite, so i never botherd to understand this system, i still dont really, something about waiting for 12 spins and betting on the largest sector hitting the most, is this right ?

i did read your thread and it gave me an idea for my system, i think its the same but its based on sectors not individual numbers, i think you have manage to go up further on the scale.

im very intersted in how you play it but dont quite understand it, i know you said you will explain it but i think i get the jiff of it.
do you see bias wheels playing this way

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first off sorry about missing your post I have been very busy. As to your question about detecting a rigged wheel......probably so. this sys/method is still new a I have to really be on my toes to play it. it is very difficult to do the curves and have time to place bets. today I went for 30 min. used 10 min. to plot previous numbers and made 2000 units with flat bets, and left before many people showed......this is very difficult to explain but am working on a  simple version. tell me when you want to pass some real numbers at me like before with Sam, and I will explain it step by step. lets plan on a session of one to two hours so I can explain what I am doing and why. please throughly read my last posts especially about sectors first. i need to say that i had to decide before going to make an extra effort to place and tack fast.....but it payed off.

[darrynf]

thats ok mate, i did read your last post.

would your system work on live wheels over the internet ?

[birdhands]

first off sorry about missing your post I have been very busy. As to your question about detecting a rigged wheel......probably so. this sys/method is still new a I have to really be on my toes to play it. it is very difficult to do the curves and have time to place bets. today I went for 30 min. used 10 min. to plot previous numbers and made 2000 units with flat bets, and left before many people showed......this is very difficult to explain but am working on a  simple version. tell me when you want to pass some real numbers at me like before with Sam, and I will explain it step by step. lets plan on a session of one to two hours so I can explain what I am doing and why. please throughly read my last posts especially about sectors first. I need to say that I had to decide before going to make an extra effort to place and tack fast.....but it payed off.

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    I would love to feed you numbers again like last time.  Anytime.  This time we should probably start you off with 10 or 20 numbers like you would do at a casino.  I think there are a lot of us here who are eager to learn from you.  If we were to schedule a session there would probably be a big turnout.  I've got lots of actuals to draw from.  Please let me know whenever you have the time and energy to let us watch you at work.

Sam

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hey Sam,
sounds like a great challenge for me. this should be the proof of any method played, on the other hand just becase any player can beat a few games doesnt mean his sys wont collapse......only time will be the real judge.

ok, where are you located.... i am in central america time zone.

[jrhelp007]

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Below are live numbers extracted from a Casino in Atlantic City, New Jersey. It's a double zero roulette.

I'll not mention the Casino name because as you probably know all the casinos have members/employees on this board using "PHONY names".

here are the live spins:

32
19
19
14
17
10
31
1
26
18
18
36
30
00
13
9
17
9
3
35
5
14
34
34
5
14
10
15
4
36
25
29
33
7
1
6
12
15
31
13
25
21
4
24
10
27
23
32
4
26
6
35
3
26
20
9
21
10
7
2
10
12
36
6
4
12
2
8
14
36
3
7
29
--->  I ended my session and left the table.

I have in my possession more number using other Casinos in Atlantic City New Jersey. Let me know if you need more.

Please run the above numbers which can be a good measurement to your system/approach.


"HAVE A NICE WEEKEND"

John

[birdhands]

Jr,
 This isn't how he does it.  We need to feed hi the numbers one by one.  If you look back over the thread you'll see how we did it before.

@KWTQ,
   I'm in North Carolina, Eastern Standard Time.  It's 11:51 right now as I post this.
Sam

[seykid29]

Hi John
Im folowing this thread well indeed,wish the guy could contribute more frequently,but he did say he is a busy guy i guess  I just try a 4 sector play on this,but 4 sector by dividing table not wheel.For american wheel you can make great use of table with limited bets to play wheel,because the way the numbers ,Table to wheel are related.I end up with +51 units
Only a bankroll of 36 units was needed,lucky i guess.With 6 step progression,then reset.Lost only one time,had to reset but still make it back.How well did you do on that session from those numbers.
Seykid.

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Hello again,
not trying to be elsive but i have very little time for computer . Sam i will be on here at 10:00 tonight to start this play hope you can make it .....right now it is 9:00. if sam cant make it i could jump over to chat if you like.

jjh

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