Please tell me what you think of these systems

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I am on my cell phone so cant answer much at one time.

I always switch the type of wheels I play. there are only two kinds I play mech. and one with a person spinning the ball, I made reference that I played the one with the person spinning the ball.

141 is the mathmatical number when all numbers should have at least one hit on them.(I just read where this number should be 206....I am inclined to bielieve 206 from experience)

I would start playing bits of sectors....this is something I need to explain more....and hot numbers according to what the cuve shows is due......more later. remember if your not sure what to play, wait till something develops

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I will write more later about the curve I keep refering to. It effects everything in life. Disaster management, anything with a multilple outcomes. If you can't get a handle on it and how it flows this system of play will not work...on the contrary it will loose more consistantly and faster than any other system. I remember the early days of playing this sys. It made me so frustrated because I was always deciding on which wrong number group to play....having my number always show at the wrong time, but this was a real sign to me that I was very close to winning all the time.

[JustIionutzzz]

OK KWTQ .  .  .  Thank you for your time and hope to see some new post with more info when you can .  .  .  Appreciate it .  .  .  and by the way .  .  .  I am a bit new to this forum, until 2 days ago, everything I discovered was most of it on my own, and the testing I made in programs made by me (in c++ and c# for better visualization).  I don;t know who you test the system against a lot of numbers and what programs you usually use ( i refer to all on this forum) but if you want, I can make you a nice program, with charts and whatever you want (I even made something like a real roulette program that I use to analyze when I play .  .  .  won about 1,200$ from 100$ in 25 days but then something got wrong and I don;t know what, I played at William Hill and Europa Casino, and my guess is that the guys figured the way I play and made me lose all Also if you can could you tell me some fair on-line casinos ?) .  .  .  I am now trying to test it against a lot of numbers to see if it was something wrong with the system or with the casino) .  .  .  From where do you get numbers to test the system? .  .  .  I got them from random .  org and tested the system against 90K spins .  .  .  Now i have a hint where to start from .  .  .  So if you want any help on that (if you need it cause i see that you do so fine  ) I will do whatever you want .  .  .  Also don't know how fast are the programs that you all use cause from what i have read I understand that it takes some time to run the system a big number of spins (maybe i understood wrong), the system that i wanted to test, takes about 2-3 seconds to go throw all the 90K numbers so don't know if that helps .  .  .  Good luck 

[jrhelp007]

KWTQ,

When can we expect a writeup of your approach? Followed by an example of a run using Roulette numbers?

Thanks,

John

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Today, but think of it as going to school instead of walking away with.....step 1......step 2.

[seykid29]

KWTQ Like i stated is it ok to play line bet group of numbers the same way?Tracking? Taking note of hot and sleeper?

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Hello,

Sey....the problem is that any system will in time meet a set of numbers that overtake your bankroll, so you end up with trying to adjust your progression. I don't agree with this theology/attack. You are diceing the board so many different ways that your miss ration increases to the point that it makes it easier to overtake your win ratio....you will lose. This is my opinion.

[seykid29]

Ok.So are you guys in Chat.KWTQ you have been on for a while but no additinal info.Im eager about the graph.Will you be sharing?

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The Curve.

A drunk walking around a light post, birds eating around a dish, planetary objects, natural disasters, coin tosses, airplane crashes, roulette are made of events and time. These 2 elements are what make up the exponential curve. In roulette it is not so important the actual time between events as is what to expect next. Example here is a set of numbers.

28-2-18-00-4-1-27-1-19-13-12-23-20-27-21-9-11-13-21-9-3-9-20-20-8-21-5-27-14-12-22-23

Doesn't look like much but it follows a curve

B-B-R-B-R-R-B-R-R-B-R-R-R-B-B-R-R-R-R-B-B-B-R-R-R-R-R-R-B-R

2-1-1-2-1-2-1-3-2-4-3-6-1......

1 -5
2-4
3-2
4
5
6-1

I would expect from the looks of the curve we could be expecting more 1's, the 4's and 5's need to fill in although I never bet on red or black...the next set of numbers are

19-14-30-1-18-23-7-11-7-26-6-10-19-27-21-21-34-27-31-7-32-00-13-0-4-23-14-27-27-12

B-R-R-R-R-R-R-B-R-B-B-B-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-B-R-R-B-B-R-R-R-R-R

1-6-1-1-3-6-1-2-2-5

1-9
2-6
3-3
4-0
5-1
6-3

OK....you get the idea. The problem is how to chart for events that have more than 2 outcomes. You have many events and many outcomes...you have to arrange your sampling data to have many events to few outcomes, or numbers need to be sleepers, hot numbers, I also use areas of a graph that are the largest without a repeat number on them ( a type of sleeping section on the graph) and others......so lets replace the numbers 1-6 on the graph above instead of 1 we will put sleepers, 2 will become the first 5 numbers on your new graph, 3 will become the last 5 numbers on your graph, 4 will be hot numbers....then we will rearrange the numbers to fit into those catagories and it may look something like this

#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#
C-C-C-H-C-F-C-F-C-L-C-C-C-C-F-C-F-L-F-L-F-C-H-C-C-C-C-F-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-F-L-F-L

C=COLD
H=HOT
F=FIRST FIVE
L=LAST FIVE
There could be others but you end up increasing your losses the more you divide your graph or board.....this is what I was telling Sey.

So your graph above looks like

Hot
1-2
2-0
3-0
4-0
5-0
6-0
7-0
8-1

COLD
1-4
2-0
3- 1
4-2
5-0

FIRST FIVE
1-8
2-0
3-0

LAST FIVE
1-5
2-0
3-0

THE CHART FROM LEFT TO RIGHT TELLS YOU WHAT TO EXPECT NEXT. THE CHART FROM TOP TO BOTTOM TELLS YOU WHEN THE EVENT HAPPENS HOW MANY TO EXPECT.   

I am out of time for now but I will explain in the next text this mysterious new graph I am referring. I think it was Thomas Edison that said asking the right question is solving 80 percent of the problem.

[hb5810]

#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#
C-C-C-H-C-F-C-F-C-L-C-C-C-C-F-C-F-L-F-L-F-C-H-C-C-C-C-F-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-F-L-F-L

can someone explain how the above sequence was obtain.

[birdhands]

Awesome post, KWTQ.  Thanks.  I have two questions:

How do we use the chart from left to right to know what to expect next?  So far we have an expected distribution of 1 repeat for every 2 cold numbers, and a hot number every 5 to 8 spins.  Anything else?

You have cold, hot, 1st five, and last five, but what about all the numbers that have hit once but aren't hot (the ones I've been calling warm)?

Sam

[birdhands]

can someone explain how the above sequence was obtain.

I think it's hypothetical.  If you don't understand what he means by C (cold) and H (hot), then just look back over the thread.  F and L are new designations, just introduced in his last thread.

Sam

[carlsongs]

Dreamer.  Your nothing but a deamer.  Can you put your hands on your head oh no

[birdhands]

KWTQ,
   So the practice session that we were doing had 19 spins.  Here is the curve:

CCCCCCLFFCCLCF/HCCFCC

COLD
1. 1
2. 3
3.
4.
5.
6. 1

HOT
1. 1
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.

FIRST 5
1. 2
2. 1
3.
4.
5.
6.

LAST 5
1. 2
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.


So first I noticed that all the "warm" numbers fell into either first or last 5, although I'm not sure if this will always happen.  Also I had one number that was both hot and first 5.
Anyway, what would we bet next?  It seems like next time we get a cold we should then bet something else, because singles are due.  We have 1 number that has hit 3x (the hot number), and 5 numbers that have hit 2x.  It seems the hot numbers are underrepresented, but there's technically only one.  Maybe we should bet the last 5 plus the hot number?

Sam

[John Gold]

Dreamer.  Your nothing but a deamer.  Can you put your hands on your head oh no

carlsongs, that songwriter would be all over this system like a tramp on chips!

[John Gold]

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