Please tell me what you think of these systems

[marvin]

hi birdhands, sorry for the confusion.

the rows represents the number of times that the number appeared.
so base on our graph, if the crossing point is near the the 1 of x axis, i will bet on those numbers that havent appear.
if the crossing point is near 2 of x axis, i will be on numbers that have already appear once because i think those numbers will soon comes out.

[BangkokJEDI]

Hi Marvin....

I think your method sounds exactly the same as the 'GUT' which has been talked and posted about in great length. KWTQ method revolves around the exponential curve which is something completely different.

[marvin]

Hello Jedi,

ahhh yes the winkels GUT, i have also read about and thats how i came to understand this KWTQ system.
winkel's GUT somewhat plays on the COLD and WARM numbers where as KWTQ plays on COLD, WARM & HOT and bet according to the curve.

Yes you might be correct that at first I may be partly(i only bet 12numbers at most) playing the GUT but that is only on the first part of the session/ KWTQ's system, as the game progress you will have to look at the graph because you will have to play on either COLD, WARM or HOT numbers

Kindly see the attached file.  just ignore the values in Y-axis for demonstration purposes.
Assuming we will have that graph, i will bet on the numbers that has yet to appear thrice.
I may also decide to bet on numbers that are yet to appear 4times less numbers to bet high chance of winning, according to our graph.


correct me if i am wrong.

[marvin]

and yes, i will still consider betting on that crossing point meaning the option is between WARM & HOT numbers instead of the COLD & WARM numbers.

[marvin]

and yes, I will still consider betting on that crossing point meaning the option is between WARM & HOT numbers instead of the COLD & WARM numbers. 

let me rephrase it seems my fingers cannot catch up what my mind is saying. . .


yes i will still consider betting on that crossing point, crossing point usually refers to the WARM numbers.
this means my options will be betting on WARM & HOT numbers(base on the graph) or COLD and WARM numbers(base on the crossing point)

[marvin]

a disastrous day for me today loss 300units.
lots of missed bets, lets say on the after 12 spins first part the available numbers are 1-24, so i just have to pick up to 12 numbers, lets say i picked 1-12.  after every spins numbers are coming up the opposite 13-24 but when i switch to 13-24 numbers coming up are 1-12.  even during the middle part same problem.
seems like today is not my day

[seykid29]

KWTQ use to say he plays many graphs at the same time,well i think for us beginers 2 is ok.What i mean is you playing the largest gap first,when only small gap left you concentrate on the Xs how they are filling up.You play the 3 numbers from Xs not fill up,along with their neighbours,so 9 numbers.

P.S Must change my name to ''Learning  when to quit''

[iwy0]

Hi know when to quit,
Thank u so much for your wonderful idea, which helped me found something valuable between all the numbers landed.
Attached is my test result from the data of a real electronic 1-zero roulette, so far so good. Any comment, please?

[marvin]

I will write more later about the curve I keep refering to. It effects everything in life. Disaster management, anything with a multilple outcomes. If you can't get a handle on it and how it flows this system of play will not work...on the contrary it will lose more consistantly and faster than any other system. I remember the early days of playing this sys. It made me so frustrated because I was always deciding on which wrong number group to play....having my number always show at the wrong time, but this was a real sign to me that I was very close to winning all the time.

hmmm seems like i experience this on my last play.

[rayhd63]

@iwy0

Nice Graph you got there. Could you give the programing code , so I could test it with actual numbers ?
Looks like you got Extreme 2.0 as well.

Thanks alot

[know when to quit]

Hello everyone,

Long absence again. Probably last post for another long time. I continue winning for those that are wondering. Went today and in 1 hour won over 10800 units. Lost 1500 the day before, won 17000, the day before, won 5000 the day before, won 12000 the day before that. This has been going on for quite a while, when I find time to play.

I have been playing and refining my way of play and here are some hints that I think you will enjoy.

When playing if you do not know what to play according to the curve, do not play anything until one of the sectors or graphs takes the lead...this I have found to be an incredible advantage to my old way of playing. For instance if you are watching a dormant sector of 7 number that have not hit and you notice on your graph that you have the last 15 numbers that have not hit wait with minimum bets on 0 and 00 till one leads out then play the one still left. Pitting one group of number against itself has helped. Another is never watch just one or two and expect to walk away with winning. You have to keep your eyes on at least 5 different tactics (review past posts) to win. Keep as many graphs going as you can and charts going as you can. It helps to play when you are the only one at the table. Look and see where the graphs intersect and play those odds. If you find the ball is always landing by but not on your number you are rushing the wheel and need to play the wheel against the wheel like I mentioned above. Be patient and do not expect to play every spin...you will do better......finally, You have to have a large bankroll of at least 140 chips when playing. I have found that random numbers are not effected by new people taking over or varying the spinning technique. What is interesting is to note how you start each game and pull your graph from the first 5 spins from the start of several days....if you have a sector that slept and ate all your bank roll. Play that same sector the next day when you start with a fast progression and you will have success. Always and I mean always play the curve. Live wheels are always the best for me.
KWTQ

[birdhands]

"when I find time to play."

How hard is it to find time to make thousands of dollars per hour? 

[iwy0]

@iwy0

Nice Graph you got there. Could you give the programing code , so I could test it with actual numbers ?
Looks like you got Extreme 2.0 as well.

Thanks alot

Sorry I don't have the code, I did it by hand
This system is about possibility, nothing for sure, that's my comment, hope I was wrong

[markus-intalex]

I've just read this post from start to finish and am interested. Thanks for sharing. I get the gist of it and am going to give it some tests.

One thing though i am unsure on. How do you know to move to different attacks.... Say i have the a section filling up the curve at the top of my list, as it should, so it looks like the bell curve. But at the same time, interspersed with that, a large unhit section is also filling up. I guess this is where high bankroll comes into it? And why you say to monitor several curves at once.

A: So in my example would i bet the whole section at the top where i think the curve is completing, as well as betting whole section towards the bottom of my 36 list where i see my unhit section is filling up?

B: Or do i focus on my unhit section, do slight progression take some wins there, then move onto a new attack when it arrises? One attack at a time then see what possibilites are opening up?

I can see how this works, but with so many possibilities showing up i would be chasing so many curves i wouldn know which to focus on...exeperience tells you i guess?

Hope that makes sense

[markus-intalex]

I thought about it more. I guess if the curve was "bunching up" repeating you bet on repeats/hot, if the curves are filling out evenly you bet on the large un-nit sections, or surrounding numbers.

[markus-intalex]

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