Please tell me what you think of these systems

[know when to quit]

Just came back from the casino. It is amazing how many Koreans love card games here. One person had 2 stacks of 1000.00 chips, incredible how much money people lose.

one of the bosses came over and checked out the table where I was but didn't stay around.


I knew driving to the casino what sector I was going to play and how many spins to wait to place my bets on side by side numbers.  The croupier asked me what are you going to today, I told him 3000.00 out of 7 spins I lost 2 times, and cashed out with 3025.00 I gave 25 in tip and left.

here is the game from 2 days ago. I am going to place the numbers that were hit and you tell me what you would play next. I am holding the last spin back. I placed 4 units on and won, I will tell you what I did and why after a bit. I will start with the number furthest back.

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KWTQ

Anyone care to comment? Or, would you just rather me explain?

[marvin]

im using phone cant exactly determine what my next bet be as i need to graph it... didnt memorized those sectors

[klw]

Just came back from the casino. It is amazing how many Koreans love card games here. One person had 2 stacks of 1000.00 chips, incredible how much money people lose.

one of the bosses came over and checked out the table where I was but didn't stay around.


I knew driving to the casino what sector I was going to play and how many spins to wait to place my bets on side by side numbers.  The croupier asked me what are you going to today, I told him 3000.00 out of 7 spins I lost 2 times, and cashed out with 3025.00 I gave 25 in tip and left.

here is the game from 2 days ago. I am going to place the numbers that were hit and you tell me what you would play next. I am holding the last spin back. I placed 4 units on and won, I will tell you what I did and why after a bit. I will start with the number furthest back.

27
16
18
10
0
23
3
29
28
34


KWTQ

Anyone care to comment? Or, would you just rather me explain?

Single odd sequence due + single numbers under represented + favoured position 2 , so bet is sector 2 + extra chip on no. 3 for the first repeat.

Made a mistake here " single odd sequence due "  this is not correct , single red and even are not present to date , so maybe you are looking at black and odd next so this indicates sectors 1 and 2  I see nothing in the positions to help me as distribution is even so will take a wild guess at your favoured position 2 and maybe the first repeat of no. 29 , so bet is sector 2 and extra chip on 29.

[litiki777]

Still learning but I post my guess for fun too: missing position 4 -> position 4 is also mapped to sector 4 so I'll bet on sector 4.

[marvin]

by the way are those 00 wheel?

[know when to quit]

Yes 00 wheel

[marvin]

my bets for next spin.

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0 & 00 ofcrse 

[marvin]

Single odd sequence due + single numbers under represented + favoured position 2 , so bet is sector 2 + extra chip on no. 3 for the first repeat.

somewhat agree sector 2 is favored.
incase my sector 1 wont come ill switch to sector 2 on the next spin. 


so whats the next number KWTQ? 

[litiki777]

All of my posts are said 'needs to be approved by a moderator' and usually hold for a day. Is that normal ?

[Steve]

You only need the first few approved. Otherwise loads of spam gets through

[RayManZ]

It took me 2 days to read all the posts, but i think i somewhat understand it all.

I got some questions;

1. What expostioal curves do you plot?
Odd/Even, Black/Red, High/Low, Win/Loss?

2. The Bell Curve? I that the vertical line of the sectors you made? On the left side of your papers?

3. The interval of position. I don't understand these at all. Where did you get those numbers? Please explain with more details.

[klw]

It took me 2 days to read all the posts, but I think I somewhat understand it all.

I got some questions;

1. What expostioal curves do you plot?
Odd/Even, Black/Red, High/Low, Win/Loss?

2. The Bell Curve? I that the vertical line of the sectors you made? On the left side of your papers?

3. The interval of position. I don't understand these at all. Where did you get those numbers? Please explain with more details.

Hi RayManZ  -- KWTQ seems to have disappeared again , I will try my best to help.

1. I would like to know this as well, if you look at his casino paper he uses you don't see any curves listed so he must be doing the curves mentally. He is able to do this because he has been doing this for years and it comes naturally to him , in other words ,experience , something I doubt I'll ever be able to do. He must have a very sharp / quick mind to be able to process that a single odd or red is due along with all the other information he processes and then place a bet on a live wheel and remember he likes to play by himself,so the croupier is only waiting for him and nobody else.

2. Sorry I don't understand what you are trying to say here , the sectors are listed on the left and everytime he gets a hit he puts the spin number alongside the appropriate sector.

3. Every time you have a hit on a sector he places a " x " alongside the LAST time that sector hit Not including the current hit.So this in effect always leaves each of the 4 sectors without an " x " alongside of it so it shows how long ago it was last hit.
So taking an example sector 2 was last hit ( so no " x " alongside of it ) on spin no. 5 , sector 3 on spin no. 7 , sector 4 on spin no. 10 and sector 1 on spin no. 12 ( the current spin ), as these were the last hits on each of those sectors they will NOT have an " x " alongside of them.

So their positions are as follows :-

sector 2 is position 1 ( position 1 is always the furthest back unhit sector )
    "     3 is       "      2 ( second furthest unhit sector back )
    "     4 is       "      3
    "     1 is       "      4 ( the last sector to hit )

so now we come to spin 13 , its a hit on sector 2 , so you put an " x " next to the sector 2 ( which was position 1 ) and now, they all move up 1 position.

sector 3 has moved up to first position ( it is now the furthest back unhit sector )
sector 4 has moved up to second position
sector 1 has moved up to third position and
sector 2 is now fourth position

so you always have 1 of each sector without an " x " on it and the order from furthest away to current spin dictates the position number 1,2,3 or 4.

Hope this helps .


Cheers.

[RayManZ]

Thanks for your reply.

I got the position of hits. What i meant was the thing on the right side of this excel file: nolinks://nolinks.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=10230.msg150852#msg150852

It says interval of position. I don't understand where this comes from.

I also believe he makes the curves in his head. But if i know what he tracks i can track is to. If i understand everything correctly i should be able to make a program the makes the curves en graphs for me. That way i have more time to place bets and make the right call.

[klw]

Thanks for your reply.

I got the position of hits. What I meant was the thing on the right side of this excel file: nolinks://nolinks.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=10230.msg150852#msg150852

It says interval of position. I don't understand where this comes from.

I also believe he makes the curves in his head. But if I know what he tracks I can track is to. If I understand everything correctly I should be able to make a program the makes the curves en graphs for me. That way I have more time to place bets and make the right call.

Interval of position is simply exactly what it says , if you look at position 1 interval on the example you showed me it appeared after 2 spins , 3 spins and 2 spins 232 he refers to , he's looking for potential repeats , maybe non appearance etc. as a factor to decide on his bet.

The program sounds like an excellent idea.


Cheers.

[klw]

The issue for me in all of this is we have converted the 4 sectors into 4 positions , its just another way of recording the hits , you still have 1 of 4 choices to make . kwtq says that the curve for positions is more even , I cant personally see any more advantage in this than than the exponential curve to record the sectors , I can see advantages and disadvantages in both methods. He says positions 2 and 3 are hit more common than 1 and 4 , its definitely not the case at my online site and even if this is true ( which I believe it is by the way ) is it that big an edge as to produce 6 winning bets in 12 spin sessions that we have been shown ? There must be other factors to his bet decisions and I would love to see some more live sessions with full explanantions.So please kwtq come and show us how you do it. We are waiting patiently.

By the way kwtq , none of the above is criticism just playing devils advocate.


Cheers.

[klw]

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