Please tell me what you think of these systems

[marvin]

hi klw,

we can plot as many curves as we can in order to gain advantage on it. unfortunately in our case we can plot the curve base on the position. that could be the reason why there are some numbers on his bet that arent in a sector. ill illustrate it later when i get home.

[klw]

hi klw,

we can plot as many curves as we can in order to gain advantage on it. unfortunately in our case we can plot the curve base on the position. that could be the reason why there are some numbers on his bet that arent in a sector. ill illustrate it later when I get home.

Hi Marvin -- yes agreed on the multiple curves , all the even chances are a good place to start as well as WL curve and sector and position curves, would like to know if he uses any others.

" unfortunately in our case we can plot the curve base on the position. that could be the reason why there are some numbers on his bet that arent in a sector. ill illustrate it later when I get home. " 

Sorry don't understand this bit , I'm sure its just a language thing so I'll wait for your examples later.


Cheers.

[marvin]

heres a my live dealer play last weekend.

[marvin]

as you can see I am playing the curve of positions hit and betting particularly the position that was previously hit.
at the end of spin 18(or even at spin 14), as you can see our curve is starting to get abnormal due to position 2 is sleeping too much and might wake up anytime and try to catch up with the other positions. so its either we stop or push a little bit our luck or we look for another normal curve(sectors,col/doz,EC)

[klw]

as you can see I am playing the curve of positions hit and betting particularly the position that was previously hit.
at the end of spin 18(or even at spin 14), as you can see our curve is starting to get abnormal due to position 2 is sleeping too much and might wake up anytime and try to catch up with the other positions. so its either we stop or push a little bit our luck or we look for another normal curve(sectors,col/doz,EC)

Hi marvin. Thank you for the posts and you have an excellent set up. I don't quite follow all of it.the green shaded numbers are your successful bets ?

Also your red lines denoting the curves, you re-evaluate your position curves every 3 or 4 spins and bet on that observation ? Could you do an example of how you evaluate your curve and decide on what to bet on ?

Cheers.

[marvin]

Hi marvin. Thank you for the posts and you have an excellent set up. I don't quite follow all of it.the green shaded numbers are your successful bets ?

Yes those are the successful bets.

Also your red lines denoting the curves, you re-evaluate your position curves every 3 or 4 spins and bet on that observation ? Could you do an example of how you evaluate your curve and decide on what to bet on ?

Cheers.

yes those are supposed to be the last two positions in the curve that hit. just use your imagination
I re-evaluate it ever spin.

checkout the following.

spin 7,  number 20 comes out, and based on that curve I will bet on position 1, position 1 is sector 1.
spin 8, a new sector comes out, the curve still the same so I will still bet on position 1.
spin 9, hit.

spin15, based on the curve I will be betting on position 4 and position 4 is sector 3.
spin 16, sector 2 position 1 - loss ; now we have a new top two hot positions ; next bet will now be position 3 sector 3.
spin 17, hit

attached are how our curve will look like on spin 16.


remember we are only tracking one curve, KWTQ is tracking more than one.

[klw]

Hi Marvin - I can see what you are doing now,well done those are excellent results and that is only using 1 curve, would be interesting to cross reference other curves. I think you are right to abandon that curve now as position 2 is distorting it too much.

The thing that saddens me more than anything is the time I have wasted analysing an online wheel, it is clear to me that this works with a live wheel. I have already closed my account.

[KapsobaDum]

Hello all, I'm new in this forum. I wanna ask about this system, what is our % target profit/% stop loss?
I've read a few page from last page and knew that this system has changed a little bit, so which page I must read to know the latest system? Because I still don't understand after read all post

Sorry for my bad english

[klw]

I have just done a first test run of this on Dublin Bet and it works well. The problem is entering the data and working out the next bet is taking too long that I can just about get the bets on in time as long as I've had plenty of sleep , done the Haka ,drink lots of red bull and shout YEAH very loudly every couple of minutes win or lose to keep myself sharp and on the edge and I hope the wife and kids don't come in the room cos they might be a bit disturbed. 

[RayManZ]

could you please explain more what the red area's and numbers mean? I don't get that part... On what are those numbers based?

[klw]

could you please explain more what the red area's and numbers mean? I don't get that part... On what are those numbers based?

Hi RayManZ -- the numbers at the top of the red areas 0.1 0.2 etc are simply the position numbers 1 2 3 4 , the red area denotes when it was last hit and the numbers in them are a running total of the number of appearances for each position.

For now I'm assuming you know what the position number is ?

[RayManZ]

Here is a example of 10 live spins

spin   number   sector   marker   position
            
1   4   4   x   
2   33   2   x   
3   6   2   x   2
4   34   1      
5   35   2   x   2
6   25   3   x   
7   7   3   x   4
8   25   3      4
9   20   4      1
10   2   2      2

This is a 0 wheel so sectors might be different. Please explain as simple as posible how to do the rest. I think its a language barriere.

[marvin]

I have just done a first test run of this on Dublin Bet and it works well. The problem is entering the data and working out the next bet is taking too long that I can just about get the bets on in time as long as I've had plenty of sleep , done the Haka ,drink lots of red bull and shout YEAH very loudly every couple of minutes win or lose to keep myself sharp and on the edge and I hope the wife and kids don't come in the room cos they might be a bit disturbed. 

yeah same experience here for rapid roulette it only give us 35sec to bet. I was forced to play on  tables  as it will take some time before the dealer says "no more bet" and some times I they wait for me to finish betting

[klw]

Here is a example of 10 live spins
                                                                         summary of positions
spin   number   sector   marker   position       1      2       3       4
            
1   4   4   x                                                  
2   33   2   x   
3   6   2   x   2                                          0      1       0       0
4   34   1                                                  0      1       0       0
5   35   2   x   2                                          0      2       0       0
6   25   3   x                                               0      2       0       0
7   7   3   x   4                                          0      2       0       1
8   25   3      4                                          0      2       0       2
9   20   4      1                                          1      2       0       2
10   2   2      2                                          1      3       0       2

This is a 0 wheel so sectors might be different. Please explain as simple as posible how to do the rest. I think its a language barriere.

All the numbers that I have typed above , are a summary / running total of the positions hit so far. It really is that simple.
Have a look at your position hit then move across to where I have typed the summary and see what is happening to the counts. Then from the bottom extend a red block pattern upwards until the last time that a position hit. If you have a red block around a positions running total that extends a long way up it just means that the position hasen't hit for a while.

Now have a look at Marvin's bet selections then have a look at the running totals of the positions and you can see a common theme. I dont have any more time right now.Hope this helps.


Cheers.

[marvin]

It took me 2 days to read all the posts, but I think I somewhat understand it all.

I got some questions;

1. What expostioal curves do you plot?
Odd/Even, Black/Red, High/Low, Win/Loss?

for me, I am ploting the position.
although I am still looking on other curves.

2. The Bell Curve? I that the vertical line of the sectors you made? On the left side of your papers?

yes the bell curve.  sectors are explained here nolinks://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=4061.msg38512#msg38512
this is also same sectors used by Mr J. 

3. The interval of position. I don't understand these at all. Where did you get those numbers? Please explain with more details.

you may download KWTQs excel sheet and followthrough it as he provides comments on spin-by-spin

[marvin]

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