Ok, so how do I begin?

[Just_Gabe]

Ok, as some of you know I am, so to speak, a newbie at playing roulette.  First I was fooled by false ideas given (like being able to play with bonus money on roulette when most casinos don't include this game as part of the wagering requierement), I've tried systems, made fool moves and lost some money in the game that I truly, found out that I know nothing about it.

But there is something that I know, and that is I WANT TO LEARN HOW TO PLAY ROULETTE...and I want that really bad.

I recently had a growing interestest in the controversial topic of "reading random" (otherwise I wouldn't be posting here...) and find it really interesting.  So, to any guru:

a)is it really possible to read random?

b)if so, how can I begin to learn reading it? what are the topics that you think will help me deciphrate random and exploit it (if that is even possible of course)? are there any books or something?

Heck, even I would like to be mentored by someone about this, unlike most newbies who just beg and rant, I really want to learn.  I quickly found out that just asking the pros for methods/strategies/their HG's just won't work...it's even pitty.  Hence, my desire to learn how to properly play this amazing game.

I'm an oper book ready to be written upon.

Thank you.

[bombus]

*PTING*

Was that a pin dop?

[Arteinvivo]

a)is it really possible to read random?

Unfortunately , no it's not possible. The guy Gizmotron who started it all is a big joke. He does not really know the game but just pretend to. Don't listen to him as you'll lose whatever you have amassed up to this point. He is a big ego on two legs and is very emotive. Too much to be considered a real winner. He has never been able to demonstrate his prowess for good reasons.

[gizmotron]

a)is it really possible to read random?

Unfortunately , no it's not possible. The guy Gizmotron who started it all is a big joke. He does not really know the game but just pretend to. Don't listen to him as you'll lose whatever you have amassed up to this point. He is a big ego on two legs and is very emotive. Too much to be considered a real winner. He has never been able to demonstrate his prowess for good reasons.

Arte is a fool. He would have you believe that something he can't do is the only way to see things. What he gets from telling others baloney you will have to define for yourself. I have presented real world arguments that many fools have failed to address on this topic of randomness. I specifically pointed out "Clustering Analysis" as a real subject of science. These fools insist that pointing out that illusions and fallacy exist to such a degree that it trumps all discussions.

So here are ways to read randomness:

You can read if a group of numbers are hitting in a dominate type of series. An example of that is dozens hitting as singles. Do you know what that means? Do you need that spelled out for you?  Here are a bunch of numbers hitting as singles: 1, 13, 25, 2, 14, 26, 3, 15, 27, etc... (1 = first table layout dozen), (13 = second table layout dozen), 25 = third table layout dozen). In this example you read past spins as 1,2,3, 1,2,3, 1,2,3, etc... Now anyone can see that this is an example of singles, unless they admit being stupid also. It's also a repeating pattern too. Can you see the repeating pattern? If you can then you are reading randomness.

Can you read dominations in randomness? Can you chart twenty past spins where you can see one of the three table layout dozens not hitting in the past twenty spins? If you can then you are reading randomness.

Now the math guys, that can't tell me what the next spin will be, they want you to believe that reading randomness is for those that claim reading randomness is about for telling the future. They want you to get stuck on that point because they can't or won't admit that past spins have a value to any advantage player that knows how to use clustering data. What's really funny here is that clustering data is used by mathematicians for predicting results in pattern recognition. They do that by using math formula. So the math guys, that are hung up on long term odds can't admit they are wrong. They argue that you won't know when something will be useful so they say you can't read randomness.  

I have never shared how to use "reading randomness." This is what angers these so called experts of randomness. They never address and answer questions that I give them. They always chicken out and prop up sophistry and straw man arguments in order to dodge the questions. It's all here in this section on randomness. You can read where they always chicken out. That's an amazing result for this forum too. You don't often see individuals willing to make idiots of themselves in public. They are so angry that all they have is attack issues to prop themselves up with. It's too bad too. Because I believe that guessing is all you have to beat roulette. Having a method for bet selection that works comes from experience and the knowledge of what to look for. I get that from reading the randomness that flows while I play.

So you must ignore those that say you can't read randomness. They won't answer questions and they only wish to shut down discussion of this idea.

I have shown you to look at past spins for series of singles and dominations or sleeping's in three relative dozens. Now you must admit that I pointed this out specifically. What I have not done is tell you how to turn that into an advantage for yourself. I'm astonished that at this forum, nobody is attempting to turn that into a method. They would rather look for a trigger. In fact, they think I use a trigger to take advantage somehow, an advantage they they insist can't exist. Well I agree, only they won't hear or read that. I don't use triggers because they work like mindless robots, directly into the house's advantage and lose they all lose eventually. You must change as the data changes. Triggers are mindless rules of system builders.

You have to use your brain for something more than a system builder.

[Mr J]

@Just_Gabe >>> Why not do what I did? Trial and error over years of testing/playing. You will need a source for numbers, notebooks (different sizes), a ruler, colored markers, a calculator and lots of soda. Go to it!.......I did.  Ken

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[Marven]

Gizmotron,

Great post.

The only thing I'd say though is: Save your time. The great majority will never listen. That's just the way it is.

Do know, however, that your posts and clues do help a lot those who are willing to learn (myself included). You do deserve a thank you.

It's just that sometimes silence is the best answer, especially when it's all out there, all the clues people need. Yet people will still go straightly to the "Full Systems" section looking for that magic trigger and progression, while ignoring the most important part of the game: Studying randomness.

Regards,
Marven

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[gizmotron]

Gizmotron,

Great post.

The only thing I'd say though is: Save your time. The great majority will never listen. That's just the way it is.

Do know, however, that your posts and clues do help a lot those who are willing to learn (myself included). You do deserve a thank you.

It's just that sometimes silence is the best answer, especially when it's all out there, all the clues people need. Yet people will still go straightly to the "Full Systems" section looking for that magic trigger and progression, while ignoring the most important part of the game: Studying randomness.

Regards,
Marven

Thanks, very much.

Here is an invaluable hint: Don't bet the dozens unless the state of advantage is working in them while you bet. In other words don't bet 12 or 24 numbers per bet unless they are in a favorable state. That's why I track nine different dozens, that nine make up three sets. They still dominate as unfavorable most of the time. But when it's working it's like winning almost all bets. There must be a stand off bet or no bet method in order to wait to win. Of course those that think you can't wait for an advantage have probably not spent much time doing it. It makes no sense to bet the dozens when they are in a state of chaos.

Now there is Spike and his secret method for randomness. He has worked out a method for short term tracking and chaos. The only thing I can think of is that if it is not consistent then it must jump away from consistent results. That has to be a kind of consistency in itself. Perhaps it's possible to make a method from it not being dominate in one direction.

[Arteinvivo]

Don't bet the dozens unless the state of advantage is working in them while you bet. In other words don't bet 12 or 24 numbers per bet unless they are in a favorable state

As i said this guy is unable to discuss or even touch even lightly the surface of this topic as all he has is a vague idea about the laws that govern the states of a random roulette wheel. What he said above is just pure crap. A scammer would use the same vague arguments always being unable to propose a model or even a theory at the core of his beliefs as these are just beliefs nothing more. All mathematicians that use patterns said that we can't use their model to beat a random wheel or beat casino games. Wake up boy, snap out of your dreaming state. If you can't talk correctly about the nature of randomness then why bother ? Why pointing toward wrong directions. I saw that you have a couple of disciples. Glad for you but stop this non sense. It's ridiculous. How old are you to believe in such foolish concepts ? 15 ?

[gizmotron]

As I said this guy is unable to discuss or even touch even lightly the surface of this topic as all he has is a vague idea about the laws that govern the states of a random roulette wheel. What he said above is just pure crap. A scammer would use the same vague arguments always being unable to propose a model or even a theory at the core of his beliefs as these are just beliefs nothing more. All mathematicians that use patterns said that we can't use their model to beat a random wheel or beat casino games. Wake up boy, snap out of your dreaming state. If you can't talk correctly about the nature of randomness then why bother ? Why pointing toward wrong directions. I saw that you have a couple of disciples. Glad for you but stop this non sense. It's ridiculous. How old are you to believe in such foolish concepts ? 15 ?

What a load of crap! Arte spent a full year promoting the Matrix system. He admitted that it was just a hoax. BTW, there are no laws that govern the states of randomness. So let's hear from the fabricator of stories about these "laws that govern the states of randomness." Don't chicken out now Arte. There is far too much chickening out on this forum. Let's see some real mathematicians that say pattern recognition does not apply to common randomness, like in Roulette. Stand up and prove your crap Arte. We see your section is as dead as a 200 year old cadaver. All you do is the only thing you have ever done in two years. You make up crap and disrupt discussion. There are no laws that govern the states of randomness. Unless you are now admitting that you can read randomness. Certainly those so called laws make discernment of the states of randomness possible. It would be easy to see that anyone can read randomness if they would just get their heads out of their flower pots.

[WARRIOR]

man you guys are like 2 cats i used to have in the country always fighting, gizmo i have the most respect for the knowledge you no about the game,don't take it to your grave ,keep up the great work all the best Tino

[gizmotron]

I don't think that two-cats-sam is going to like that much. It's more like arte is a bug that splatters on the wind shield. He's a bug with nine thousand brothers and sisters.

[Marven]

What he said above is just pure crap.

To you, it obviously is.

Regards,
Marven

[Lanky]

Here are a bunch of numbers hitting as singles: 1, 13, 25, 2, 14, 26, 3, 15, 27, etc... (1 = first table layout dozen), (13 = second table layout dozen), 25 = third table layout dozen). In this example you read past spins as 1,2,3, 1,2,3, 1,2,3, etc... Now anyone can see that this is an example of singles, unless they admit being stupid also. It's also a repeating pattern too. Can you see the repeating pattern? If you can then you are reading randomness.

@Arteinvivo .

I really don't know how anyone can argue about what Giz has put here.
I see that and more every time I play Roulette.
The plan Fact is it does exist and it or other patterns are there for all to see on every Display Board(Marquee).

@Gizmotron.

You are the section Moderator here Mate.

Why don't You just open another Topic with the heading of,
Questions for/Comments about (Ok, so how do I begin?)

And You can just move the posts that are disrupting this thread to there.

That way You will have a Clear and clean thread the way You want it.

Lanky.

[Lanky]

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