TurboGenius (4 number method)

bloomone2002 · May 24, 2008, 12:17:29 AM

Ok, I decided workout this session from start to end and it had -298 downturn before it hit, but it ended with +14unit in 46 spins. Kinda touch but still worked in the end. I dont know if a stoploss would be necessary and if so how much, any thoughts:
1 24
2 30
3 8
4 31 8/1u -1
5 3, 3,8/2u -3
6 24 s -5
7 9 3,8/2u, k8-10 -7
8 11 3/1u -8
9 9 3,11/2u, -10
10 26 3,11/2u -12
11 31 s -14
12 29 s -16
13 4 s -18
14 21 3,4,11/3u -21
15 14 3,4,11/3u -24
16 14 3,4,11/3u -27
17 1 3,4,11/3u, k3 -30
18 3 4,11/2u +2 -32
19 24 4,11/4u -34
20 31 4,11/4u -38
21 26 4,11/4u -42
22 8 4,8,11/6u -48
23 27 4,8,11/6u -54
24 7 4,8,11/6u, k8 -60
25 7 4,11/4u +3 -64
26 2 4,11/6u -70
27 36 2,4,11/9u -79
28 13 2,4,11/9u -88
29 30 2,4,11/9u -97
30 5 2,4,11/9u, k4 +4 -106
31 29 2,11/8u -114
32 4 2,11/8u -122
33 26 2,11/8u -130
34 21 2,11/8u +5 -138
35 31 2,11/10u -148
36 26 2,11/10u -158
37 5 2,11/10u +6 -168
38 23 2,11/12u -180
39 21 2,11/12u -192
40 7 2,11/12u +7 -204
41 27 2,11/14u -218
42 0 2,11/14u -232
43 25 2,11/14u +8 -246
44 34 2,11/16u +9 -262
45 8 2,11/18u -280
46 2 2,8,11/27u, 2h -307+324=14
47 33
48 6
49 2

bloomone2002 · May 24, 2008, 02:30:21 PM

Here I played the same group of spin that gave me a low of -298 testing doz1 and testing all 3 doz of low of -130 (actually it could have a little better if i didnt include #24 again in spin 20). Anyway, I applied the first 35 spins of the 49 group and got 121 units. I think a stopwin is very important here, because at a certain point the majority of the streets would be canceled and the sleepers streets may remain. So, I think maybe a stopwin and streets cancelled limit should be established and which ever comes first in order to balance the drawdowns and plus unit potential. Any ideas? I'm thinking stopwin of +100 and a cancelled streets of 4-6.
Another option would be to play all 3 dozens using Hermes progression method and treat each dozen as separate game but I agree with Hermes the tracking is extensive although the br would be as great as with the original progression.

Play all 3 dozens with the same group with Hermes Method

1 24
2 30
3 8
4 31, bet (8, 24/30) +1
5 3, (8, 24, 30/31) +1 -3
6 24 (3,8, 24, 30/31) +1, 24h -7+36=29
7 9, (3,8, 30/31) +1 -4
8 11, (3/8/11, 30/31) +1 -9
9 9, (3/8/11, 30/31) +1, K8 -13
10 26, (3/11, 30/31) +1 -17
11 31, (3/11, 26/30/31) +1, 31h -22+36=14
12 29, (3/11, 26/30) +1, k30 -4
13 4, (3/11, 26) +1 -7
14 21, (3/4/11, 26) +1 -11
15 14, (3/4/11, 21, 26) +1 -16
16 14, (3/4/11, 14/21, 26) +1 , 14h -22+36=14
17 1, (3/4/11, 21, 26) +1, k3 -5
18 3, (4/11, 21, 26) +1 -9
19 24, (4/11, 21, 26) +1 -13
20 31, (4/11, 21/24, 26) +1 -18
21 26, (4/11, 21/24, 26/31) +1, k26 -24+36=12
22 8, (4/11, 21/24, 31) +1 -5
23 27, (4/11, 21/24, 31) +1 -10
24 7, (4/11, 21/24, 31) +1 -15
25 7, (4/11, 21/24, 31) +1 -20
26 2, (4/11, 21/24, 31) +1 -25
27 36, (4/11, 21/24, 31) +1 -30
28 13, (4/11, 21/24, 31,36) +2 -42
29 30, (4/11, 13/21/24, 31,36) +2 -56
30 5, (4/11, 13/21/24, 31,36) +2, k4 -70
31 29, (11, 13/21/24, 31,36) +3, -88
32 4, (11, 13/21/24, 31,36) +3 -106
33 26, (11, 13/21/24, 31,36) +4 -130
34 21, (11, 13/21/24, 31,36) +5, 21h -160+180=20
35 31, (11, 13, 31/36) +1 31h -4+36=32
Summary 35 spins 29+14+14+12+20+32 = 121
36 26
37 5
38 23
39 21
40 7
41 27
42 0
43 25
44 34
45 8
46 2
47 33
48 6
49 2
Bloom

hermes · May 24, 2008, 03:46:33 PM

Still too much downfall! More downfall than -50 is scary, you cannot expect that you always recover. Next time bet only 4 best streets. By betting the 4 best streets you are all over the lay out. All 4 streets will not go to sleep at once. I was thinking that if some street is canceled bet next the number, which canceled the street. e.g. you bet on #8 and #7 canceled it, then bet further the #7

By that downfall we need more stop loss than stop win.
Thanks for the heavy involvement bloom. we will get the answer, because the whole idea is healthy. It needs some cosmetics.
Hermes

bloomone2002 · May 24, 2008, 04:14:01 PM

oK, I have 2 challenges with that approach. First, I have seen where a canceled street with come back with either the third number, the number that canceled it or the first number that spun in the session. So, I what I have seen that works much better in my test is that if the is cancelled and then a number from the street is spun again within the session, play the entire street, because, the street is now destignated as hot and typical a number from the street will hit again. The only disadvantage is the increase of playing 2 additional numbers within your betting group, which means bigger br and higher stoploss parameter.

Second point, I am have been trying several times to get a fix on the 4 best streets and it is not working for me. I am finding that hot repeating streets through virtual selection go cold quickly in actual play. Also, the 18 games virtual watch as you suggested cannot be fixed, because in some scenarios, its best to wait 10-12 spins for the 4 best, but i am looking at session right now, it took 14 spins for the first repeat. I dont know maybe that 14 spin session is an indication to not play this system with any of these methods at the moment. The table isnt qualified. So, i need more definitive rules for selecting the 4 best streets. In theory is sounds very practical, because it gives you great balance, as though you are playing 3 dozens but with only a 3rd of the numbers and you dont have to worry about selecting the sleeper dozen.
Maybe its better to select the best dozens through virtual selection but then thats the same as the 4 best streets but maybe a little worst, because the 4 best streets is more in line with the wheels clustering of hits.
Thanks for the encouragement, I certainly hope we get the answer here.
I think we need to a table prequalification parameter, that statistically is more in our favor.
Hermes, I also, agree that a -298 is quite high. A -130 is also high but I can live with that if the system is consistent. -50 would be most idea, but can we get a consistent profit is the question to me.
Another thought, it maybe more appropriate find the 4 hottest hitting streets regardless whether it is a repeat or not. That gives could potential extend the hot streak of the streets and shorten the game, rather than looking for the 4 hottest repeat streets.

I've been posting on both threads, the testing thread as well as this one. Where is TurboGenius, surely he can offer some insight into our discussion.

Bloom

bloomone2002 · May 24, 2008, 05:21:45 PM

I am posting this successful session, I wrote approach in a previous reply so that its successful attributes will be evaluated by others interested to isolate the most appropriate rules.

Evaluation: Hermes your -50 drawdown idea worked in this session. The highest point was -42. Also, after the last hit in spin 66 we had 92 units, prior to the -42 drawdown in spin 85.
Also, I had only one instance were D1 skipped more than 10 spins @ 11 spins.
Ok, I didnt start this session until the 8 spin when D1 occurred for the 1st time in spin 7. After reviewing this session and Turbos session. I think you can stay with any dozens and hedge yourself against a sleeper. It you start actual betting once you receive 3 numbers from the dozen. I think I would perfer those 3 numbers to not occur in a custer and not extended to far apart. Maybe not within 5 spins and not past 20 spins. So, the ranges is 6 to 15 or 20 spins, then start with those numbers. That would have improved this session.
Also, i think i would increase the unit by one in hermes method like turbo does when a street is cancelled, which means I might have to increse the stoploss a bite, not sure.
Also, if a street # hits, while playing session and then the street hits again, I will continue to play that street number to hit. ie. 10,10 hit,11, now play 11 to hit.

Playing D1 only
Session 5 Table 3: 1/2/08 using Hermes progression method
1, 29
2, 22
3 0
4 18
5 33
6 20
7 5
8 17 5/1u -1
9 31 s -2
10 19 s -3
11 0 s -4
12 26 s -5
13 23 s -6
14 33 s -7
15 15 s -8
16 29 s -9
17 27 s -10
18 12 5,12/2u -12
19 31 s -14
20 6 5,12/2u, k5 -16
21 7 12/1u -17
22 12 7,12/2u, 12h -19+36= 17
23 5 7/1u -1
24 12 5,7/2u -3
25 10 5,7,12/3u, k12 -6
26 0 5,7/2u -8
27 21 s -10
28 36 s -12
29 33 s -14
30 33 s -16
31 35 s -18
32 20 s -20
33 11 s -22
34 21 s -24
35 34 s -26
36 20 s -28
37 11 s -30
38 6 s, k5, +1 -32
39 3 7/2u -34
40 7 3,7/2u, 7h -38+72=34
41 28 3/1u -1
42 20 s -2
43 35 s -3
44 34 s -4
45 20 s -5
46 21 s -6
47 24 s -7
48 28 s -8
49 3 3/1u, 3h -9+36=27
End session: 17+34+27= 78u
Continue session
50, 15
51 0
52 2
53 28 2/1u -1
54 32 s -2
55 12 s -3
56 29 2,12/2u -5
57 28 s -7
58 30 s -9
59 10 s, k12 -11
60 20 2/1u -12
61 29 s -13
62 6 2,6/2u -15
63 26 s -17
64 19 s -19
65 3 s, k2 -21
66 6 6/1u, 6h -22+36= 14 (total 92u)
67 34
68 0
69 30
70 7
71 2 7/1u -1
72 15 2,7/2u -3
73 21 s -5
74 6 s -7
75 5 2,6,7/3u, k6 -10
76 6 2,7/2u -12
77 18 s -14
78 11 s -15
79 17 2,7,11/3u -18
80 19 s -21
81 20 s -24
82 6 s -27
83 28 s, +1 -30
84 0 2,7,11/6u -36
85 11 s, 11h -42+72= 30
78+14+30=122u
86 30 2,7/2u -2
87 14 s -4
88 5 s -6
89 3 2,5,7/3u, k2 -9
90 24 5,7/2u -11
91 13 s -13
92 2 s -15, killed#2
93 36 s -17
94 14 s -19
95 35 s -21
96 8 s, k7 -23
97 5 5/1u, 5h -24+36= 12
122+12=134u
Bloom

bloomone2002 · May 24, 2008, 08:30:58 PM

Ok, I've applied my new evaluation to the next session.
Session summary: 28+48+52= 128, highest drawdown= -24
Much improve results. I just combining to good of Turbo with the good of Hermes.
Session 6 Table 3: 2/1/08
Hermes Progression Method playing D1
1, 5
2 13, 5
3 10 5,10
4 26,
5 32,
6 25,
7 3, 3,5,10
8 15,
9 30,
10 19,
11 27,
12 35
13 8, (3,5,8,10)
14 25
15 0, (3,5,8,10), start bet here
16 16, (3,5,8,10) +1 -4
17 10, (3,5,8,10)+1, h10 -8+36=28
18 32, (3,5,8)+1 -3
19 7, (3,5,8)+1, c8 -6
20 26, (3,5)+2 -10 or -8
21 31, (3,5)+2 -14 or -10
22 11, (3,5)+2 -18 or -12
23 5, (3,5,11)+2, h5 -24+72=48 or -15+36=21
24 22, (3,11)+1 -2
25 1, (3,11)+1, c3 -4
26 20, 11+2 -6
27 28, 11+2 -8
28 22, 11+2 -10
29 3, 11+2, c3(2x) -12
30 32, 11+2 -14
31 28, 11+2 -16
32 32, 11+2 -18
33 11, 11+2, h11 -20+72=52
Session end: 28+48+52= 128, highest drawdown= -24
Bloom

bloomone2002 · May 24, 2008, 09:41:33 PM

Just as I thought with the new evaluation approach, we need a higher stoploss, maybe -100, if I do increase the units per bet after a cancelled street, but if I increase only to maintain at least a +6 unit minnimum gain, then my drawdown in the last 2 sessions would be loss, however, proportionally my units won is decreased also.
What is most important, probably decreasing the stoploss risk, while maintaining a positive profit. I will do one more session, with the same method.

Start new session on next spin

1, 29
2, 22
3 13
4 27
5 28
6 13
7 4
8 2 4
9 9 2,4
10 12 2,4,9
11 27 2,4,9,12
12 27 2,4,9,12
13 14 2,4,9,12
14 17 2,4,9,12, start here
15 24 (2,4,9,12) +1 -4
16 2 (2,4,9,12) +1,h2 -8+36= 28
17 24 (4,9,12) +1 -3
18 13 (4,9,12) +1 -6
19 12 (4,9,12) +1, h12 -9+36= 27
20 12 (4,9)+1 -2
21 8 (4,9,12) +1, c9 -5
22 36 (4,12) +2, -9
23 20 (4,12) +2 -13
24 28 (4,12) +2, -17
25 17 (4,12) +2 -21
26 36 (4,12) +2 -25
27 25 (4,12) +2, -29
28 28 (4,12) +2, -33
29 32 (4,12) +2, -37
30 21 (4,12) +2, -41
31 16 (4,12) +2, -45
32 6 (4,12) +2, c4 -49
33 4 12+3 -52
34 15 12+3 -55
35 33 12+3 -58
36 2 12+3 -61
37 19 (2,12)+3 -67
38 17 (2,12)+3 -73
40 7 (2,12)+3 -79
41 12 (2,12)+3, h12 -85+96= 11
Summary: 28+27+11= 66 units, highest drawdown -85
End session with 2 cancelled streets and one number remaining from a street that has already hit. The other street hit 2x. The odds are not in our favor to continue in my opinion.
Bloom

bloomone2002 · May 24, 2008, 10:24:38 PM

Please let me know if you have any better ideas or if this approach can be improved. I'm liking my results now.
Start new session on next spin
1, 25
2 15
3 36
4 20
5 22
6 28
7 16
8 16
9 36
10 25,    D1 sleeping
11 10
12 28,    10
13 3
14 31,    3, 10
15 32
16 5,    3,5,10, start here
17 2 (3,5,10) +1, c3 -3
18 21 (5,10) +2 -7
19 33 (5,10) +2 -11
20 10 (5,10) +2, h10 -15+72= 57, good stopwin point in 20 spins or 4 bets
21 14 5+1 -1
22 2 5+1, c3(2x) -2
23 10 5 +1 -3
24 4 (5,10)+1, c5 -5, may need to end session here
25 21 10 +2 -7
26 10 10 +2, h10 -9+72= 63
End session: 57+63= 120u, highest drawdown= -15 within 26 spins.
Bloom

Krash · May 25, 2008, 01:13:00 AM

Hey guys, I've been watching this thread closely because it's the system that I've been using the last couple weeks and it has been successful for me. I do appreciate your testing and discussions - please continue to share your findings if possible.

Anyway, I'm new here and I may not have a complete grasp of everything. Also, I don't pretend to consider myself some kind of roulette professional and I'm humbled by the discussions you all have here, but I just wanted to share what I have been doing in case it helps in any way, which I'm not sure since you guys seem to look at every angle. Besides, I've only had 3 sessions with this system in a real casino, but I've also done a lot of virtual testing with numbers posted on this site.

Yes, there are some sessions in my testing that just seem to go wrong. Streets keep cancelling themselves right before your numbers hit over and over. When that happens, I think I just need to either abandon that dozen for a while or just walk away and come back later.

However, I have found that to leverage those sleeping dozens at times, it really does pay off to play each dozen individually at the same time (or at least start on a dozen that seems to be hitting often). Since I only play at a live table, I have to keep track of the numbers in my head. Luckily, so far, I have not had a problem with remembering my bets even though I do not use a pen and paper, but I started to use my chips to help me remember.

Basically, I lay out 12 chips in front of me to represent each street within each dozen, like this...
OOOO
OOOO
OOOO

The first row represents the first dozen and each chip in that row represents the four streets. If a street gets killed, then I remove a chip, which also tells me which level of bet I'm on since I use the progression to raise the bets by 1 unit when a street is killed. For example, if the third street in the first dozen and the second street in the second dozen is killed, then my chips look like this...
OO_O
O_OO
OOOO
This also tells me I'm on level 2 for the 1st and 2nd dozen.

Also, before I go into a sample dataset, here is some criteria I follow:
- I treat each dozen separately
- I raise the bets in a particular dozen by 1 when a street is killed within that dozen
- When a number hits, I replace my "reminder" chips on the table to signify I am back to level 1, but I carryforward any numbers in that dozen that were still "open". For example, if I'm on level three and betting 3 units on 2,12 and 12 hits, then I go back to level 1 and continue betting 1 unit on number 2.

Okay, I don't know if any of that helps anyone, but I'll go through the dataset above that Bloom used that netted him 66 units with a drawdown of -85. Remember though, playing all three dozens may require a higher drawdown, but your chances of winning increase as well. Here we go:

(D3L2-15,16 means Dozen3 Level2 Bet on 15 & 16)
(H13@L1 means Number 13 hit while betting 1 unit)

1 29 D3L1-29..................................................(1) -1
2 22    D2L1-22/D3L1-29....................................(2) -3
3 13 D2L1-13,22/D3L1-29................................(3) -6
4 27    D2L1-13,22/D3L1-27,29............................(4) -10
5 28    D2L1-13,22/D3L2-27,K29..........................(4) -14
6 13    D2L1-22,H13@L1/D3L2-27.........................(3) -17+36= +19
7 4    D1L1-4/D2L1-22/D3L2-27..........................(4) +15
8 2 D1L1-2,4/D2L1-22/D3L2-27.......................(5) +10
9 9 D1L1-2,4,9/D2L1-22/D3L2-27....................(6) +4
10 12 D1L1-2,4,9,12/D2L1-22/D3L2-27................(7) -3
11 27 D1L1-2,4,9,12/D2L1-22/H27@L2.................(5) -8+72= +64
12 27 D1L1-2,4,9,12/D2L1-22/D3L1-27................(6) +58
13 14 D1L1-2,4,9,12/D2L1-14,22/D3L1-27............(7) +51
14 17 D1L1-2,4,9,12/D2L1-14,17,22/D3L1-27.......(

+43
15 24 D1L1-2,4,9,12/D2L2-14,17,K22/D3L1-27......(9) +34
16 2 D1L1-4,9,12,H2@L1/D2L2-14,17/D3L1-27.....(

+26+36= +62
17 24 D1L1-4,9,12/D2L2-14,17/D3L1-27...............(

+54
18 13 D1L1-4,9,12/D2L3-17,K14/D3L1-27.............(7) +47
19 12 D1L1-4,9,H12@L1/D2L3-17/D3L1-27............(6) +41+36= +78
20 12 D1L1-4,9,12/D2L3-17/D3L1-27....................(7) +71
21 8 D1L2-4,12,K9/D2L3-17/D3L1-27..................(

+63
22 36 D1L2-4,12/D2L3-17/D3L1-27,36..................(9) +54
23 20 D1L2-4,12/D2L3-17,20/D3L1-27,36.............(12) +42
24 28 D1L2-4,12/D2L3-17,20/D3L1-27,28,36.........(13) +29
25 17 D1L2-4,12/D2L1-20,H17@L3/D3L1-27,28,36..(

+21+108= +129
26 36 D1L2-4,12/D2L1-20/D3L1-27,28,H36@L1.......(7) +122+36= +158
27 25 D1L2-4,12/D2L1-20/D3L2-28,K27.................(7) +151
28 28 D1L2-4,12/D2L1-20/H28@L2........................(5) +146+72= +218
29 32 D1L2-4,12/D2L1-20/D3L1-32........................(6) +212
30 21 D1L2-4,12/D2L2-NoBet,K20/D3L1-32............(5) +207
31 16 D1L2-4,12/D2L2-16/D3L1-32........................(7) +200
32 6 D1L3-12,K4/D2L2-16/D3L1-32.....................(6) +194
33 4 D1L3-12/D2L2-16/D3L1-32..........................(6) +188
34 15 D1L3-12/D2L2-15,16/D3L1-32......................(

+180
35 33 D1L3-12/D2L2-15,16/D3L2-NoBet,K32..........(7) +173
36 2 D1L3-2,12/D2L2-15,16/D3L2-NoBet.............(10) +163
37 19 D1L3-2,12/D2L2-15,16/D3L2-NB (19 dead)...(10) +153
38 17 D1L3-2,12/D2L3-15,K16/D3L2-NB................(9) +144
40 7 D1L3-2,12/D2L3-15/D3L2-NB (7 dead)..........(9) +135
41 12 D1L1-2,H12@L3/D2L3-15/D3L2-NB................(4) +131+108= +239

Summary: +239 units Highest drawdown -17

Anyway, that's how I've been playing the last few sessions. I don't keep track of all the above information in my head - just the numbers - the chips on the table show me which streets are killed and the level of each dozen. I'd love to improve on this if possible, so I look forward to any further testing you guys do. Thanks!

Cheers!
Krash

bloomone2002 · May 25, 2008, 02:53:01 AM

Thanks Krash, this is very helpful for me. I do not have a lot of live casino experience. I do believe that playing all 3 dozens as a separate game is a stronger strategy than playing one dozen. The only disadvantage is keeping tracking and a potentially higher downturn. But smart tracking techniques which you have brilliant shared with us makes it more appealing to me now. Ofcourse, a higher br is important. I'm thinking maybe a stoploss of -150. The greatest downturn in your version of the dataset was from 194 in spin 32 to 135 in spin 40 = -59. Therefore, I would maintain at least a stoploss of -100, possibly as high as -150, which is still easy to recover.

Also, for improvement to this version, we can apply the wait method I've been using for one dozen. By tracking the first 5 non-repeat spins, then start placing the actual bets in the method, then will reduce drawdowns at the beginning of the session and increase the unit gain potential on the first hit.
Bloom

MJP78 · May 25, 2008, 07:07:40 PM

Hi everyone,

I'm pretty new here and look forward to working with you all.

I'd like to thank you Turbo genius for posting this system

I have thought of another way to play this using the whole table and instead of the dozen, using 10 sets of 3 numbers(neighbours) from the wheel:

Numbers:

32 - 15 - 19

4 - 21 - 2

25 - 17 - 34

6 - 27 - 13

36 - 11 - 30

8 - 23 - 10

5 - 24 - 16

33 - 1 - 20

14 - 31 - 9

22 - 18 - 29

7 - 28 - 12

35 - 3 - 26

Now we write these numbers on a piece of paper and when a number is spun we write that number infront of the group thats
its from:

Example:

number spun is 1 and we add a chip to number 1 on the table.

32 - 15 - 19

4 - 21 - 2

25 - 17 - 34

6 - 27 - 13

36 - 11 - 30

8 - 23 - 10

5 - 24 - 16

33 - 1 - 20 1

14 - 31 - 9

22 - 18 - 29

7 - 28 - 12

35 - 3 - 26

Now say the next number spun is 30 we now mark 30 in its group the same:

32 - 15 - 19

4 - 21 - 2

25 - 17 - 34

6 - 27 - 13

36 - 11 - 30 30

8 - 23 - 10

5 - 24 - 16

33 - 1 - 20 1

14 - 31 - 9

22 - 18 - 29

7 - 28 - 12

35 - 3 - 26

Now say the next number spun is 33.. its in the same group 1 which it kills 1 so we cross number 1 off then take the chip of number 1 and add 1 unit to all other numbers being played.

32 - 15 - 19

4 - 21 - 2

25 - 17 - 34

6 - 27 - 13

36 - 11 - 30 30

8 - 23 - 10

5 - 24 - 16

33 - 1 - 20 X

14 - 31 - 9

22 - 18 - 29

7 - 28 - 12

35 - 3 - 26

Now say if the next number spun is 30.. thats a repeat and we reset all the chips being bet on (even the number that won)
back to 1 and carry on.

Here is my first 4 results playing at dublin bet and with dublin bet numbers... game 3 did'nt do so well at the start but recovered
well might need a stop loss:

GAME 1:

spin# #spun #Killed/repeat u's played u's played on each# Bankroll

1 31 1u 1u 499u
2 32 2u 1u 497u
3 6 3u 1u 494u
4 21 4u 1u 490u
5 9 k31 6u 2u 484u
6 13 8u 2u 476u
7 21 21r 4u 1u 544u
8 16 5u 1u 539u
9 19 k32 8u 2u 531u
10 27 k13 9u 3u 522u
11 3 12u 3u 510u
12 31 15u 3u 495u
13 12 18u 3u 477u
14 9 9r 585u
=========================================================

GAME 2:

spin# #spun #Killed/repeat u's played u's played on each# Bankroll

1 7 1u 1u 499u
2 4 2u 1u 497u
3 26 3u 1u 494U
4 16 4u 1u 490u
5 8 5u 1u 485u
6 35 k26 8u 2u 477u
7 4 4r 4u 1u 541u
8 1 5u 1u 536u
9 23 k8 8u 2u 528u
10 22 10u 2u 518u
11 31 12u 2u 506u
12 11 14u 2u 492u
13 1 1r 7u 1u 557u
14 27 8u 1u 549u
15 5 k16 14u 2u 535u
16 4 4r 607u
=========================================================

GAME 3:

spin# #spun #Killed/repeat u's played u's played on each# Bankroll

1 13 1u 1u 499u
2 31 2u 1u 497u
3 33 3u 1u 494u
4 27 k13 4u 2u 490u
5 29 6u 2u 484u
6 12 8u 2u 476u
7 9 k31 9u 3u 467u
8 1 k33 8u 4u 459u
9 13 12u 4u 447u
10 15 16u 4u 431u
11 1 20u 4u 411u
12 16 24u 4u 387u
13 27 k13 20u 5u 362u
14 26 30u 5u 332u
15 20 k1 30u 6u 302u
16 19 k15 28u 7u 274u
17 29 k12 24u 8u 250u
18 36 32u 8u 218u
19 6 40u 8u 178u
20 29 29r 8u 1u 458u
21 36 36r 8u 1u 486u
22 13 k6 18u 2u 468u
23 8 20u 2u 448u
24 20 22u 2u 426u
25 8 8r 11u 1u 487u
26 8 8r 11u 1u 512u
27 4 12u 1u 500u
28 32 13u 1u 487u
29 4 13u 1u 510u
30 3 k26 24u 2u 486u
31 36 36r 558u
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GAME 4:

spin# #spun #Killed/repeat u's played u's played on each# Bankroll

1 11 1u 1u 499u
2 29 2u 1u 497u
3 1 3u 1u 494u
4 32 4u 1u 490u
5 35 5u 1u 485u
6 34 6u 1u 479u
7 0 6u 1u 473u
8 7 7u 1u 466u
9 19 k32 12u 2u 454u
10 7 7r 6u 1u 520u
11 15 7u 1u 513u
12 16 8u 1u 505u
13 25 k34 4u 2u 491u
14 8 6u 2u 475u
15 23 k8 6u 3u 454u
16 11 11r 2u 1u 555u
17 7 7r 591u
=========================================================

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MJP

MJP78 · May 25, 2008, 07:11:51 PM

Make that 12 sets of 3 numbers

lol

dr-maks1 · May 25, 2008, 07:28:09 PM

Sorry guys, but the progression that i have suggested in the posts above «stage progression» has failed. Last session the downfall was -1000units...then i stoped.

However the trubos bet selection looks interesting, but we need to find a better progression or the time to jump in to bet.

bloomone2002 · May 25, 2008, 08:39:28 PM

QuoteMake that 12 sets of 3 numbers lol

Welcome the forum my friend. I see you started up the 4 sector system on here. Great!
I Like your variation. I would use a stoploss of -100 on this one.
I would have let game 3 go on spin 11 or 12.
Thanks MJP78.
Bloom

MJP78 · May 25, 2008, 09:20:51 PM

HI Bloom thanks for the welcome!

Looking at my results now if i just recorded on paper till the first repeat then started betting things look like they would have gone better in game 3 ...think i'l test it that way some more... thanks

As for the 4 sectors im still working on improving the progression and a different way to play the numbers should be done soon!

Cheers mate.

MJP

MJP78 · May 25, 2008, 09:20:51 PM

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