6 point Divisor Plan

[Redhunter]

Okay sounds good.

Cant wait to see it.

Redhunter

[bliss]

Lanky, I'd like to try out your plan on sports betting (racing mainly), and I'm wondering how you would deal with a sequence of bets where the odds vary - which is usually the case in Sports betting. For example, suppose your target is £50, giving an initial stake of £50/6 = £8.33 (there's no need to round to a whole number, because we're not constrained by the need to bet in standard chip sizes), but instead of fixed odds, we get a series like this:

[table=,]
target,  stake,  odds,  result,
50,  8.33,  6/4,   loss,
58.33,  9.72,  13/8,   loss
68.05,  11.34,  5/1,   loss
79.39,  13.23,  2/1,   loss
92.62,  15.44,  9/4,   win
[/table]

In your opening post in the thread you gave an example of a sequence, and:

Good news! You get a winner at 2/1. That means you have won $7 of the target of $19.50, which reduces the target to $12.50.
You now have to drop your divisor by two points (the price of the winner) and this now becomes a divisor of four.

So is this a general rule? (drop the divisor by the price of the winner on a win) So in my little example, after the win,  I would drop the divisor by 2.25 (2.25/1 being equivalent to 9/4). The winning amount is 2.25 x 15.44 = 34.74, which reduces the target to 50 - 34.74 = 15.26
The divisor is now 6 - 2.25 = 3.75, and the next stake is 15.26/3.75 = 4.07.

The only problem I can foresee with this is if you get a run where the odds are relatively high. High odds means longer losing runs, in which case your initial stake (as determined by target/6) may be too high for the odds. Maybe it would be better to take the average odds of your bets and stick to that. Of course this means you need to have a fairly large sample from which to get an accurate average. Alternatively you could apply the safety break, if the odds become too high.

Hope you understand what I'm getting at, I just wondered how the plan works in its original form, before you adapted it for roulette.

Thanks Lanky.

[Lanky]

Hi Bliss.

Mate its always a pleasure to receive a post from you.
You either answer Your Own question & ask for confirmation or you leave the way open for a more detailed answer.

Lanky, I'd like to try out your plan on sports betting (racing mainly), and I'm wondering how you would deal with a sequence of bets where the odds vary - which is usually the case in Sports betting. For example, suppose your target is £50, giving an initial stake of £50/6 = £8.33 (there's no need to round to a whole number, because we're not constrained by the need to bet in standard chip sizes), but instead of fixed odds, we get a series like this:
target     stake     odds     result      
50     8.33     6/4      loss   
58.33     9.72     13/8      loss   
68.05     11.34     5/1      loss   
79.39     13.23     2/1      loss   
92.62     15.44     9/4      win   
            

Mate In this example that You use & seeing that the 1st two lost bets were under 2/1 I would have put the divisor up one to 7
The next 3 are over 2/1 so I would leave the divisor at 7 but after the next bet and if it's a loss I would put the Divisor up one to 8

In your opening post in the thread you gave an example of a sequence, and:
Quote
Good news! You get a winner at 2/1. That means you have won $7 of the target of $19.50, which reduces the target to $12.50.
You now have to drop your divisor by two points (the price of the winner) and this now becomes a divisor of four.

So is this a general rule? (drop the divisor by the price of the winner on a win) So in my little example, after the win,  I would drop the divisor by 2.25 (2.25/1 being equivalent to 9/4). The winning amount is 2.25 x 15.44 = 34.74, which reduces the target to 50 - 34.74 = 15.26
The divisor is now 6 - 2.25 = 3.75, and the next stake is 15.26/3.75 = 4.07.

Yes Mate that was the General Rule to deduct the price of the Winner from the Divisor.
But I tweaked it from the get go for the same reasons as you have foreseen.
If the Winners price was from say 1/1 to 7/4 I would take 1 off he Divisor.
2/1 to 11/4...I would take 2 off the Divisor.
3/1 to 15/4 I would take 3 off
4/1 to 9/2 ....Take 4 off
Etc
I am sure You have got the Idea My Mate.

Whatever price the winner was the divisor would come down by that much.
I would just reduce the Divisor by 2 up to the odds of 5/2.
Then

The only problem I can foresee with this is if you get a run where the odds are relatively high. High odds means longer losing runs, in which case your initial stake (as determined by target/6) may be too high for the odds. Maybe it would be better to take the average odds of your bets and stick to that. Of course this means you need to have a fairly large sample from which to get an accurate average. Alternatively you could apply the safety break, if the odds become too high.

Yes Mate you could do it both ways, although by putting an average price there it would be a lot like the Retirement Staking Plan .
I guess it would work that way just as well if not better by applying the best of both Plans.
I am open to Tweaks that make things better & this MIGHT be one of them.

However if by some remote chance that I know what I am talking about and I am not full of Piss & Wind then I should have the correct answer for You. Right Mate???.

I mean after all I have been shooting my mouth off about how good this is & the tweaks I have made to it so I should be able Walk the Talk....Right Mate ??

So I will have a go at it for You Cobber.

What would we do in this case scenario.
Lets say we have this 6/90=15 to bet

But the price is say 15/1 and You don't want to have the 15 units on this thing at that price.

What You do is simply this.
You use the price of that selection as your Divisor to obtain a lower unit to be bet and at the same time get the return you are looking for.
EG
15/90=6 to bet=96 won-96=nil << from 50={50} profit.

Now while I am at it lets carry this on further lets say that lost I would then have my divisor like this
6.25/96.....<<I don't count the fractions just the whole number of 6>>>the .25 is to keep count of when I have to put the Divisor up when it goes from 6.75 to 7 its automatically done for You.
Like This
6.25 << I count as 6
6.50 << I count as 6
6.75 << I count as 6
7 << is 7

Ok so we now have.
6.25/96=16 to bet
But the selection is priced at 20/1
so just divide 20 into 96=5 to bet rounded up
EG
20/96=5=101 Won-105= +4 +50={54} Profit

So simply put if the price of the selection is more then the Divisor.
You can bet lower units by using the Higher Price of the Selection as the Divisor.

How did I do Bliss
Did I Pass Mate    


Hope you understand what I'm getting at, I just wondered how the plan works in its original form, before you adapted it for roulette.

Thanks Lanky

Good On Ya Bliss Its Been my Pleasure Mate.

Lanky

[bliss]

Lanky, many thanks for your detailed reply, you've answered all my questions and more. I like the flexibility of this plan, although IMO there's a danger that too much flexibility can lead to changing things on a whim, which kind of defeats the purpose of having a plan in the first place. If a plan is all things to all people then it's likely to be nothing to no-one, if you see what I mean. 

I like your idea of using the price as the divisor for higher prices. Most of my selections are between 1/1 and 7/2 but the occasional 5/1 - 10/1 turns up, so it would be a good solution for these. I'll run it through my results and also try the "average price" method (as per the retirement plan) and we'll see which gives the best ROI.

cheers mate.

[Lanky]

Hi Bliss.

Mate I have an Idea.

Why don't You ask Victor to open up a Racing section.

Our Friendy Moderator Lohnro is a Semi Pro Punter & a Clever one at that.

Either Him or You or Both could run the thing & I could Learn/Help/Write some stories there.

Its just an Idea Mate but its a bloody good one...Lmao

Your Mate

Lanky

[bliss]

Lanky, that's a great idea. Racing falls under the umbrella of sports betting, for which we already have a section, but maybe a sub-section within it?

I don't want add to Victor's workload if it's not strictly necessary. Also, with an eye on the future, better to keep a grip on the number of sections wouldn't you think? otherwise the forum may become cluttered and difficult to navigate...

Actually, racing (in the sense of "traditional" backing of horses) only forms part of my "arsenal". I use the Betfair markets almost exclusively, but probably do more trading and laying than backing.

I will leave it Victor's capable hands, I'm easy whatever he decides.

[Lohnro]

Thumbs Up for a "Racing Section"!

[Lanky]

Bliss

There You Go Mate.

We now have a Horse Racing Section & Lohnro is the Moderator.

Thanks to Victor for setting it up.

Lanky

[bliss]

cool! 

Thanks Lanky, and thanks to Victor for setting it up.

BTW, great news about your wife, give her my best.

[ChickenDinner]

Hi Lanky,

Thanks for your help with the divisor mate. The more I use it, the more I like. When you're in a losing steak it really looks after your cash very well. Forget the usual progressions, they simply screw you over in a losing streak. I'm going to use the divisor all the time from now on! 

Thanks again

CD

[Moccoman]

Hi CD,

I have found that the Divisor can resist long streaks of losses much better that the Labby, Johnson and the like.

I use the ECs but coupled with the zero pocket any double wins really produce a real bonus.

I'm currently working on tweaking it further and will keep everyone informed.

Regards
Mocco

[ChickenDinner]

Hi Mocco,

Glad to hear you're having success with it too.

Look forward to hearing how you play the ECs.

Cheers,
CD

[chico]

Hi Lanky,

I was reading the forum, someone asked you about MM & EC bets. What are they. Could you just explain a little bit about it.

Thanks and cheers,

Chico

[Lanky]

Hi Lanky,

I was reading the forum, someone asked you about MM & EC bets. What are they. Could you just explain a little bit about it.

Thanks and cheers,

Chico

Hi Chico.

MM=Money Management.

EC=Even Chances.

Here is a link back to page 1 where I have done some examples on them.

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/money-management/6-point-divisor-plan/msg266/#msg266

Here is the link to My Even Money Plan.

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/full-systems/lanky's-evens-system/

Your Friend.

Lanky.

[berlinerbruce]

Hi Lanky, just to say thanks for sharing your grind

its been talked about in Berlin and in Poland

We'Ve really helped people with this grind of yours

tictactoe you still here with us, would like to see more results, they look good mate

moccaman oh so true this deserves air time alright

if you go to search and look for the divisor its spread all over the forum

i think that this should have its own section and of course our lanky as moderator

its true lanky it can be used in anything apart from your coffee

thanks again Lanky

your mate Bruce

[berlinerbruce]

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