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6 point Divisor Plan

Started by Lanky, November 12, 2007, 06:14:15 AM

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Moccoman

Hi CD,

The 0,1,2,3 was Lanky's idea - I think he called it the "bucket bet" or something similar.

If the 1,2,3 comes up when I'm betting 1-18, then its "booya" for me! LOL. The zero tend to relieve that frustration we get when it comes up and we are not on it!

Black and odd will give a coverage of 28 numbers (8 with double hits and 20 with singles). This is compared to (say) black and low which covers 27 numbers (9 with double hits and 18 with singles). It just depends whether you want the double wins or the coverage of numbers.

Regards
Mocco


Lanky

QuotePost 1 in a series of 3 Posts on $10 Units playing Even money Bets.

If I have it correct, your second bet should have been 2 units. Target (7) divided by divisors (6) is greater than 1, so rounds up to 2

I think your results should have been

6:6 1 unit bet. Result: 19. Lost so add one unit to target. = 6:7. [-10]
6:7 2 unit bet. Result: 19. Lost so add two to target and one to divisor = 7:9 [-30] (1 added to div  for 2nd loss)
7:9 2 unit bet. Result: 2. Win so remove 2 from target and one from divisor? = 6:7 [-10]
6:7 2 unit bet. Result 22. Win so remove 2 from target and 1 from divisor? = 5:5 [+10]
5:5 1 unit bet. Result: 27. Lost so add one to target. = 5:6

  • 5:6 2 unit bet. Result: 27. Lost so add two to target and one to divisor? = 6:8 [-20](1 added to div  for 2nd loss)
    6:8 2 unit bet. Result: 13. Lost so add 2 to target. = 6:10 [-40]

    leaving you on -4, with a target of 10 to give you your original target of +6, You've had 5 losses, adding 1 to the divisors for every 2 losses (2) and 2 wins, taking off 1 divisor each time, leaving you with the original 6.

    Regards,

    Rudy
Hi Forum.

Yes Rudy Is correct in the way that He has explained in doing it THIS way.

Only I do it slightly different and so will You with practice....Its easier

For example

6:6 1 unit bet. Result: 19. Lost so add one unit to target. = 6:7. [-10]

19-<<is the result.....and I would already have the divisor formula written down before starting play.

19-6/6=1 <<that 1 is the amount of units bet..

19-6/6=1=7 <<that is the result of the bet unit being added to the win target Before we know the result....that way our math is done and all that remains is the Lw notation to be written down.

This way We don't get stuffed up with any amount of distractions that can happen in a Casino....like people bumping You....Talking to You....Bringing drinks to You...Looking at woman...etc

So in this case it would look like this
19-6/6=1=7-Lost
19-6/7 <<now notice this ...it has to be the same amount as it was on the line above.
It's a way to double check Yourself for mistakes and to get the correct amount to be divided for this next Bet.

So doing the whole example as You guys have done it would look like this for Me.

19-6/6=1=7 Lost
19-6/7=2=9 Lost  >now the div goes up 1 to 7 because of the 2 losses in a row.
2-7/9=2=11 Won-less 4 return=7...>now the Div comes down 1 on the Win to 6
22-6/7=2=9 Won-less 4 return=5 –less win target of 6= [+10]

Let Me take time out to explain something here to You that I do.

We will call this [+10] PP it stands for Pocket Profit...or Pocket Prisoner.

That should now go into your Pocket and or put apart from you remaining Chips.
Why ?....Good question..
Simply put if I have say a $200 stop loss as an example and we have had a [+50] pocket profit.

Then we get out of there with only losing $150 in reality.

That [+50] PP should be put toward another Bank Roll or a 2nd Bank if you like.

I am only prepared to lose to the Casino what My stop loss is and Nothing More
Any PP is a Prisoner...they can not get that back at any session I play.

This may sound Trivial but its not.
It could mean the difference between Winning & Losing at the End of the Year.
Or at the very worse ending up with something out of the wreck if Your selection plan has failed You.

If this was to happen 10 times the difference is that You have given back to the Casino $2000 instead of $2500 >>that's a reduction of 25% in lost bets.

More importantly You have reduced you Losses Overall to $1500 <<  Does it make sense to You Now ??

I will give You this example....Where I had a bigger stop loss then normal  it was 600 units...I had gone with the purpose of putting the unit size up.

Which is something I do when I Win a certain amount of the Casino's money.

The last session day of the week before Xmas I had a 520 unit loss .

Now I had already won 2 sessions for that week and I stopped 80 units short of the stop loss on this session.

That's allowed Me to still win 81% of My starting Bank for the Year.
If I had Not done that with the Pocket Profits in just that WEEK, then My winning percentage would have been 69% for the Year......Not the 81%

"Oh come on Lanky I can hear some saying that's only 12% difference."

Yeah well try and get it out of a Bloody Bank You Smart Arses that think that way.

We Continue.

Now at this point in Your use of the Divisor You have a choice.
When You are Even or at + anything You can stop & restart again.

That's the safest way to play it and while you are learning it I would recommend that you do this.

But because I started out showing You how to play it in this slightly more aggressive way I will continue in that manner which You guys have given as an example.

So continuing where we left off ,the Divisor would now be 5 and the Win target would be 5 also.


27-5/5=1=6 Lost
27-5/6=2=8 Lost..>>Divisor up to 6 now because of the 2 losses in a row.
13-6/8=2=10 Lost

Ok so the Bet Registry would look like this.

LLwwLLL = 7 bets for 2 wins & a 28.6% winning strike rate...Not real Good is it ?

Especially at odds that pay Even Money .

Another Continuing Post follows this one.

Lanky


Breeze88

HI Lanky and All


First thnx to Lanky and his idea to bring up the 6 point divisor plan to this site so we can apply it to roulette..


now i know how to add the 6pdp to even chnaces and the 3rd chances (dozen, column) .. but waht would be the best way to add it to the inside bets?


because i work on asystem that bets only on four numbers and it does quit well .. but i would need a idea how to apply the 6pdp to it.. to make it a perfect system... any advices Lanky or anybody else..


thnx in advance


cheerz

Big Chips

Had my first shot with the 6 point div plan last night at my local casino. Had to kill 2 hours so thought i would try some serious money management. Only played high/low on the even chance playing the follow the second to last spin ( trying to skim over the chops and ride the streaks ) which it did pretty nicely.

Using £3 bets to start off ( i only changed £20 into chips at the start and never had to open my wallet again ), managed to walk out with a profit of £120. Not earth shattering but very respectable unit profit. Oh and i did not use the zero bet , just the basics.

Just thought this would add a little more positive oomphh behind a very sound premise, many thanks to you Lanky for bringing this to the board.

Lanky

Quotebecause I work on asystem that bets only on four numbers and it does quit well .. but I would need a idea how to apply the 6pdp to it.. to make it a perfect system... any advices Lanky or anybody else..

Hi Breeze88.

Mate because the payable odds on the bet 35/1 is higher then the [6] point Divisor.

You can do this Mate.

36/1=1x4=5 Lost
36/5=1x4=9 lost
36/9=1x4=13 lost
36/13=1x4=17 Won-36 back=+19+1 <Win taget={20} Profit.

.....................

Now assume it got this far without a winner.

36/37=2x4=45 Won-72 Back=27+1< WinTarget={28} Profit


Your a smart Guy You will have no Problem with this Concept of using a 36 point Divisor.

Any Questions just ask Mate.

Your Friend.

Lanky.

Breeze88

HI Lanky


Thank you for your quick answer... i will do some tests now and present them later.. and thnx again..

its quit simple... :-[ .. i dunno maybe i have my head full of so manny numbers and systems and stuff that i even cant think of some things.. for my self... ;).. i think i need a break... :) .. but first i finish these tests ... ;D


cheerz

Lanky

Quote from: Big Chips on March 08, 2009, 09:10:26 PM
Had my first shot with the 6 point div plan last night at my local casino. Had to kill 2 hours so thought I would try some serious money management. Only played high/low on the even chance playing the follow the second to last spin ( trying to skim over the chops and ride the streaks ) which it did pretty nicely.

Using £3 bets to start off ( I only changed £20 into chips at the start and never had to open my wallet again ), managed to walk out with a profit of £120. Not earth shattering but very respectable unit profit. Oh and I did not use the zero bet , just the basics.

Just thought this would add a little more positive oomphh behind a very sound premise, many thanks to you Lanky for bringing this to the board.

Hi Big Chips .

You are Welcome My Friend And thanks for the Kind Words Mate.

The Divisor will Manage Your Money for You if You let it.

And on any REASONABLE Bet selection (Win Stike Rate)You will win.

This Part I had a Laugh over Cobber.

Quote( I only changed £20 into chips at the start and never had to open my wallet again ), managed to walk out with a profit of £120.Not earth shattering but very respectable unit profit.

Mate anytime You can Make 600% Profit on Your Buy In >>>RUN.

Your Friend.

Lanky.


Big Chips

"Mate anytime You can Make 600% Profit on Your Buy In >>>RUN."

The dust is still settling ! :thumbsup:

ozshabs

Quote from: Lanky on November 22, 2007, 04:18:09 AM
Mate

It works best on whatever is winning..LMAO

I promised you an aggressive demo from the questions thread for ME.

I will do one here now on the evens bet.

I will be aggressive because I won't put the divisor up.
until I reach the safety brake area which is when the divisor is at 2.

Say we were betting in $10 units & we wanted to win $60 OK Mate

L=6/6=1 lost=7
L=6/7=2 lost=9
L=6/9=2 lost=11
L=6/11=2 lost=13
W=6/13=3 won=10
L=5/10=2 lost=12
L=5/12=3 lost=15
L=5/15=3 lost=18
L=5/18=4 lost=22
W=5/22=5 Won=17
W=4/17=5 Won=12
L=3/12=4 lost=16
L=3/16=6 lost=22
W=3/22=8 won=14

Now the divisor would be 2.
But we don;t want out bets to sky rocket out of control so we add the Safety Brake.
Which simply is that we add another 6 point div to another target of 6
Like this
2/14 +
6/6
........
8/22=3 to bet........see that Mate if we had not done this our next bet would have been 7 now its only 3.

Hi Lanky, I am bit confused here, shouldn't this be 2/14 + 6/6 = 8/20? or am I missing something?

W=8/22=3 won=19
L=7/19=3 lost=22
L=7/22=4 lost=26
W=7/26=4 won=22
W=6/22=4 won=18
W=5/18=4 won=14
L=4/14=4 lost=18
W=4/18=5 won=13
W=3/13=5 won=8

Now see whats happened here...
we started out wanting a 6 unit win..but we added another 6 unit target=12 win target
we have 8 left.....so eight from 12=4 units profit.

So we have already won $40 of the $60 we wanted.

But we are in front.....So why tempt fate.....we will start again.

With the original  6/6=1 to bet

We had 23 bets for 10 wins & 13 loses

And we started out terrible (on purpose) with only 4 wins in the first 14 bets.

Your Friend

Lanky



Quote from: Lanky on November 22, 2007, 04:18:09 AM
Mate

It works best on whatever is winning..LMAO

I promised you an aggressive demo from the questions thread for ME.

I will do one here now on the evens bet.

I will be aggressive because I won't put the divisor up.
until I reach the safety brake area which is when the divisor is at 2.

Say we were betting in $10 units & we wanted to win $60 OK Mate

L=6/6=1 lost=7
L=6/7=2 lost=9
L=6/9=2 lost=11
L=6/11=2 lost=13
W=6/13=3 won=10
L=5/10=2 lost=12
L=5/12=3 lost=15
L=5/15=3 lost=18
L=5/18=4 lost=22
W=5/22=5 Won=17
W=4/17=5 Won=12
L=3/12=4 lost=16
L=3/16=6 lost=22
W=3/22=8 won=14

Now the divisor would be 2.
But we don;t want out bets to sky rocket out of control so we add the Safety Brake.
Which simply is that we add another 6 point div to another target of 6
Like this
2/14 +
6/6
........
8/22=3 to bet........see that Mate if we had not done this our next bet would have been 7 now its only 3.

W=8/22=3 won=19
L=7/19=3 lost=22
L=7/22=4 lost=26
W=7/26=4 won=22
W=6/22=4 won=18
W=5/18=4 won=14
L=4/14=4 lost=18
W=4/18=5 won=13
W=3/13=5 won=8

Now see whats happened here...
we started out wanting a 6 unit win..but we added another 6 unit target=12 win target
we have 8 left.....so eight from 12=4 units profit.

So we have already won $40 of the $60 we wanted.

But we are in front.....So why tempt fate.....we will start again.

With the original  6/6=1 to bet

We had 23 bets for 10 wins & 13 loses

And we started out terrible (on purpose) with only 4 wins in the first 14 bets.

Your Friend

Lanky




Lanky

QuoteNow the divisor would be 2.
But we don;t want out bets to sky rocket out of control so we add the Safety Brake.
Which simply is that we add another 6 point div to another target of 6
Like this
2/14 +
6/6
........
8/22=3 to bet........see that Mate if we had not done this our next bet would have been 7 now its only 3.

Hi Lanky, I am bit confused here, shouldn't this be 2/14 + 6/6 = 8/20? or am I missing something?

Hi ozshabs .

You are 100 % correct My Friend.....so no need for you to be confused.

I can see what I did,
I added the the the Divisor total of 8 to the 14 Win Target instead of the 6 << My mistake Mate....
It happens at times...I am human Mate.

I will go back in and Change it Mate...It won't make a difference to THAT bet...it will be same but the totals will be different.
The end Result will be that we win another unit.

Thanks for picking that up Cobber.I am Grateful fo You doing so.

Your Friend.

Lanky.

Ps: Its done and it now looks like this.


QuoteLike this
2/14 +
6/6
........
8/20=3 to bet........see that Mate if we had not done this our next bet would have been 7 now its only 3.

W=8/20=3 won=17
L=7/17=3 lost=20
L=7/20=3 lost=23
W=7/23=4 won=19
W=6/19=4 won=15
W=5/15=3 won=12 
L=4/12=3 lost=15
W=4/15=4 won=11
W=3/11=4 won=7

Now see whats happened here...
we started out wanting a 6 unit win..but we added another 6 unit target=12 win target
we have 7 left.....so seven from 12=5 units profit.

So we have already won $50 of the $60 we wanted.

But we are in front.....So why tempt fate.....we will start again.

With the original  6/6=1 to bet

We had 23 bets for 10 wins & 13 loses

And we started out terrible (on purpose) with only 4 wins in the first 14 bets.

Your Friend

Lanky

Lanky

Hi People.

Look Marven has come up with a very clever Betting Plan.
Here's the link.

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/money-management/marven's-5-level-staking-plan/msg62779/#msg62779

I can see a lot of merit in it.

However seeing that the Divisor was mentioned I decide to do it on Marven's results.

Here it is.

Well here is what happened Playing the 2 Dozens or Columns Etc using the Divisor.

Without using a Timeline Strategy Play.

And I will play it by using the 6/6 Method.

L-6/6=1x1=8 lost
L-6/8=2x2=12 lost ..div up to 7
W-7/12=2x2=16 won-less 6 return=10 div down to 6
W-6/10=2x2=14 won-less 6 return=8 div down to 5
W-5/8=2x2=12 won-less 6 return=6 =Even = Start again
W-6/6-1x1 Won ={+1}
W-6/6=1x1 Won=1+1={+2}
W-6/6=1x1 Won=1+2={+3}
W-6/6=1x1 Won=1+3={4}+
L-6/6=1x1=8 lost
W-6/8=2x2=12-less 6 return=Eve and Start again.
W-6/6=1x1=+1+4={+5}
L-6/6=1x1=8 Lost
W-6/8=2x2=12-less 6 back=Even and start again
W-6/6=1x1=+1+5={+6}
W-6/6=1x1=+1+6={+7}
L-6/6=1x1 lost=8
L-6/8=2x2=12 lost =Div up to 7
L-7/12=2x2=16 lost
L-7/16=3x3=22 lost=Div up to 8
L-8/22=3x3=28 lost=
W-8/28=4x4=36 won-less 12 back=24=Div down to 7
W-7/24=4x4=32 won-less 12 back=20=div down to 6
L-6/20=4x4=28 lost
W-6/28=5x5=38 won-less 15 back=23=div down to 5
W-5/23=5x5=33 won-less 15 back=18=Div down to 4
W-4/18=5x5=28 won-less 15 back=13=div down to 3
W-3/13=5x5=23 won –less 15 back=8=div down to 2

add safety brake=2/8+6/6=8/14=2x2 to bet (win target now 12)

L-8/14=2x2=18 lost
W-8/18=3x3=24 won-less 9 back=15=div down to 7
W-7/15=3x3=21 won-less 9 back=12=Even and Restart
L-6/6=1x1=8 lost
W-6/8=2x2=12 won-less 6 back=6=Even and Restart
W-6/6=1x1=+1+7={+8}
W-6/6=1x1=+1+8={+9}
W-6/6=1x1=+1+9={+10}
L-6/6=1x1=8 Lost
W-6/8=2x2=12 won-less 6 back=Even and Restart
W-6/6=1x1=+1+10={+11}
L-6/6=1x1=8 Lost
L-6/8=2x2=12 lost=iv up to 7
W-7/12=2x2=16 won-less 6 back=10=div down to 6
W-6/10=2x2=14 won-less 6 back=8=Div down to 5
w-5/8=2x2=12 won-less 6 back=Even

This was the Finish.
And there was a Profit of {+11}


At this stage below which was taken from the bad part of above.

L-6/6=1x1 lost=8
L-6/8=2x2=12 lost =Div up to 7
L-7/12=2x2=16 lost
L-7/16=3x3=22 lost=Div up to 8
L-8/22=3x3=28 lost=
W-8/28=4x4=36 won-less 12 back=24=Div down to 7
W-7/24=4x4=32 won-less 12 back=20=div down to 6
L-6/20=4x4=28 lost

There was only 2 Wins in 8 Bets.
And the next Bet was 5.

Now please don't take this the wrong way.
This is not a Pissing Contest.
I did this here so that I would not Hijack Marven's thread.

He actually has given Me an idea where it may be possible to combine the both of them and get the best from each of them at the same time.

I am very busy at the moment but as time goes by I am sure Marv & I can get this sucker to work as a Combination.

We will see what Happens in the future as I/We do some tweaks.combining etc.

Great Work Marven My Mate.

Lanky.







Lanky

@Natural9.

Rodney My Mate....By mistake I removed your post.

Would You like to repost it Mate.

Sorry Cobber.....I will Pm this to You as Well Mate.

Lanky

Natural9

Quote from: Lanky on June 03, 2009, 11:59:44 PM
Hi People.

Look Marven has come up with a very clever Betting Plan.
Here's the link.

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/money-management/marven's-5-level-staking-plan/msg62779/#msg62779

I can see a lot of merit in it.

However seeing that the Divisor was mentioned I decide to do it on Marven's results.

Here it is.

Well here is what happened Playing the 2 Dozens or Columns Etc using the Divisor.

Without using a Timeline Strategy Play.

And I will play it by using the 6/6 Method.

L-6/6=1x1=8 lost
L-6/8=2x2=12 lost ..div up to 7
W-7/12=2x2=16 won-less 6 return=10 div down to 6
W-6/10=2x2=14 won-less 6 return=8 div down to 5
W-5/8=2x2=12 won-less 6 return=6 =Even = Start again
W-6/6-1x1 Won ={+1}
W-6/6=1x1 Won=1+1={+2}
W-6/6=1x1 Won=1+2={+3}
W-6/6=1x1 Won=1+3={4}+
L-6/6=1x1=8 lost
W-6/8=2x2=12-less 6 return=Eve and Start again.
W-6/6=1x1=+1+4={+5}
L-6/6=1x1=8 Lost
W-6/8=2x2=12-less 6 back=Even and start again
W-6/6=1x1=+1+5={+6}
W-6/6=1x1=+1+6={+7}
L-6/6=1x1 lost=8
L-6/8=2x2=12 lost =Div up to 7
L-7/12=2x2=16 lost
L-7/16=3x3=22 lost=Div up to 8
L-8/22=3x3=28 lost=
W-8/28=4x4=36 won-less 12 back=24=Div down to 7
W-7/24=4x4=32 won-less 12 back=20=div down to 6
L-6/20=4x4=28 lost
W-6/28=5x5=38 won-less 15 back=23=div down to 5
W-5/23=5x5=33 won-less 15 back=18=Div down to 4
W-4/18=5x5=28 won-less 15 back=13=div down to 3
W-3/13=5x5=23 won –less 15 back=8=div down to 2

add safety brake=2/8+6/6=8/14=2x2 to bet (win target now 12)

L-8/14=2x2=18 lost
W-8/18=3x3=24 won-less 9 back=15=div down to 7
W-7/15=3x3=21 won-less 9 back=12=Even and Restart
L-6/6=1x1=8 lost
W-6/8=2x2=12 won-less 6 back=6=Even and Restart
W-6/6=1x1=+1+7={+8}
W-6/6=1x1=+1+8={+9}
W-6/6=1x1=+1+9={+10}
L-6/6=1x1=8 Lost
W-6/8=2x2=12 won-less 6 back=Even and Restart
W-6/6=1x1=+1+10={+11}
L-6/6=1x1=8 Lost
L-6/8=2x2=12 lost=iv up to 7
W-7/12=2x2=16 won-less 6 back=10=div down to 6
W-6/10=2x2=14 won-less 6 back=8=Div down to 5
w-5/8=2x2=12 won-less 6 back=Even

This was the Finish.
And there was a Profit of {+11}


At this stage below which was taken from the bad part of above.

L-6/6=1x1 lost=8
L-6/8=2x2=12 lost =Div up to 7
L-7/12=2x2=16 lost
L-7/16=3x3=22 lost=Div up to 8
L-8/22=3x3=28 lost=
W-8/28=4x4=36 won-less 12 back=24=Div down to 7
W-7/24=4x4=32 won-less 12 back=20=div down to 6
L-6/20=4x4=28 lost

There was only 2 Wins in 8 Bets.
And the next Bet was 5.

Now please don't take this the wrong way.
This is not a Pissing Contest.
I did this here so that I would not Hijack Marven's thread.

He actually has given Me an idea where it may be possible to combine the both of them and get the best from each of them at the same time.

I am very busy at the moment but as time goes by I am sure Marv & I can get this sucker to work as a Combination.

We will see what Happens in the future as I/We do some tweaks.combining etc.

Great Work Marven My Mate.

Lanky.







Here is my post again

Looking forward to it Lanky me mate anything to try lessen the risk for profit

Regads Rodney

celiza427

Hi all,

     I already PM'd Lanky - but I just want to put here another big THANK YOU for your conversion of the 6 point divisor to roulette.  Progressions are over and done with for me  :agree:  I will solely be using this as my money management system as it's been working great for me.  Strongly encourage people to learn this method, because this coupled with a decent betting strategy (another hint, learn Lw's! lol) is enough to get you going in the right direction.  Hopefully, upwards...as in your bank roll  ;D

Number Six

Hey, hey, another follower for you, Lanky! It's good to know that [sensible] people are making the transition to divisorism. Must be used with discipline, though. If you can manage that, you're using the best staking plan there is. Also, divisors are highly configurable and can be applied to pretty much anything with an adequate hit rate.

:thumbsup:

Number Six

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