new system

[Bo0Merang]

John  thank  you  yes  i  do   have  succses but there is  couple  things  when   the  winning  decision  not  win on the  1  time  there  i  aply  random but  not  from  before shoe and be honest it  is  50/50   2 desicion  win from before  shoe  and  two from  my  own but  the  before  shoe play  god role  on that.you  know  what  is funny ??  i  have been  touch  PB   by   you  i  even  dont  know  the  counts  thats  cards  but  what  im   sure  when   i see  PBPBPBPPPP orr  what   ever  i see roulette colors  and  that  i  like  it, it  is diferent but  after playing just clean  shoes  to  try  about it  is i can   say  i  like  it.I like  it  becouse this  game  not  make  me  stress  im  quiet.

[Bo0Merang]

what about the 6pt divisor? Maybe that could be the answer?

John  im  not  spec. man  but  mild  progression  with 6pt d,  can  be  definitly  used i  dont  know  how  much   u  want  exactly  win  but assume  that  you  will  play cleverly  5-7  100   chips ??  with   bank 2000 i  thing this  can  be done  with   some   light  feeling that  3 what  missing  is  that  progression

[John1234]

John  im  not  spec. man  but  mild  progression  with 6pt d,  can  be  definitly  used I  dont  know  how  much   u  want  exactly  win  but assume  that  you  will  play cleverly  5-7  100   chips ??  with   bank 2000 I  thing this  can  be done  with   some   light  feeling that  3 what  missing  is  that  progression

I think that it can work. For example. I only am shooting to make $30.00 a shoe. That is 6 units after commission. The great thing about the 6pt divisor is that you can install safety breaks. My only problem is that i forget how to play it so I need to refresh my memory.

[Natural9]

John  in your playing how many times have you won 7 bets in a row and out of how many bets in total

Regards Rodney

[Bo0Merang]

ok assume  that   30 divide  5  times  what is  6  now  you  orr me  can   try  bet 6 everytime  for  win  and  if  is  loose  use   6pt  divisor  plan  but i  dont  know  which  bank  you   use  for  winning  30  i will say 140???  that  can be  correct  and  not  danger  plus you  can  lower orr hier  bet .  when i  play  i  use  all  time  the  same  amount ill go  with 25  from  500 credit  no  progresion  all time  till  now  finish  with 4 wins  no pain,plus  im   not  betting  from  beginning  i  wait  for  minimal  10 and  some  chops  if  they   come and  offcourse  that  10ns sometime  more  are  for  better  check how  luck  before  shoe  and  i  skipping  as well  maximum  what  happened  to  me  get  4  chips  was 7 bets but  im   not  run  long  time  so i  have  documented  all i  will  say when  i  have 150 shoes i  will  make  loss  win  probabilyty ratio and  will  see.

[John1234]

John  in your playing how many times have you won 7 bets in a row and out of how many bets in total

Regards Rodney

I honestly have no idea. Wins and losses do seem to come in bunches though. it would be profitable if i could find some way to take advantage of that. But I cannot answer  your questions. I have never had 7 wins  in a row. At most I have had 5 maybe. But i have had many shoes where I have won the majority of my bets within a certain section. It is really all about timing.

ok assume  that   30 divide  5  times  what is  6  now  you  orr me  can   try  bet 6 everytime  for  win  and  if  is  lose  use   6pt  divisor  plan  but I  dont  know  which  bank  you   use  for  winning  30  I will say 140???  that  can be  correct  and  not  danger  plus you  can  lower orr hier  bet .  when I  play  I  use  all  time  the  same  amount ill go  with 25  from  500 credit  no  progresion  all time  till  now  finish  with 4 wins  no pain,plus  im   not  betting  from  beginning  I  wait  for  minimal  10 and  some  chops  if  they   come and  offcourse  that  10ns sometime  more  are  for  better  check how  luck  before  shoe  and  I  skipping  as well  maximum  what  happened  to  me  get  4  chips  was 7 bets but  im   not  run  long  time  so I  have  documented  all I  will  say when  I  have 150 shoes I  will  make  loss  win  probabilyty ratio and  will  see.

ok sounds good. I will also wait 10 decisions to see what is going on. I think this system would be much better if betting does not occur constantly.

[John1234]

Here is an observation that I have had while playing. I think that this observation can be used to our advantage. In a bad shoe you will lose more bets than you win. A bad shoe will typically stay bad throughout the entire shoe. So all you need to do is switch how you bet. If you are following the count correctly than you simply switch to bet the opposite of what the count says to do. When you make that switch you will be betting the L's rather than the W's...the L's being the losing side.

It is actually really that simple. In the beginning, when I only bet one side, I used this idea and had great success with it. I however, would typically begin to do this late in the shoe. If we can recognize what a losing shoe is and execute this idea at the proper time, than we may turn the losing shoe into a winning shoe. This does work, but it is all about timing and figuring out when to make the switch to bet the losing side.

[John1234]

The idea above can be taking further. For example..you start by playing in virtual mode. Your goal is to avoid the constant chops between wins and losses. Your goal will be to spot a positive trend in the shoe and jump on that. The same can be done for a negative trend as well. When you spot a negative trend you jump on that and bet the opposite of what the count says to do. So it is basically what I said to do in the previous post except you are playing in virtual mode until you spot the proper time to jump on the losing or winning side.

[Diarmaid]

yea but because its all random, you will get sections of good and bad. Thats the problem.

I really do think that in baccarat you cant base your bets on previous results, you will just get stung from time to time. Complete random selection can be better I think.

[Bo0Merang]

D.  im   admit that  random  from  PB  is  littlebit  diferent  but  structure  is  absolutly  the  same  the  previous  shoe is  used  ass  for winning  then  for  detecting bad wawes  which u  can   awoid  and  bet  on  them  this  is  what i  call  adwantage. i thing  that  previous  shoe  is  good  idea  no  one  said everytime but  it  is  more  helpfull like  jump  stright  on  the  game  without  known nothing <>

[John1234]

yea but because its all random, you will get sections of good and bad. Thats the problem.

I really do think that in baccarat you cant base your bets on previous results, you will just get stung from time to time. Complete random selection can be better I think.

I agree that You can get stung from time to time, but I guess that is the risk you take with any casino game, especially those that are 50/50. I prefer to use the previous shoe because it seems to provide some sort of an idea as to how the current shoe will play out. I have never experimented with using a complete random selection and maybe that could work just as well. Why do you think a random shoe will work better than the previous shoe?

[John1234]

I have a much better explanation of this post on the next page. It is the post under how I describe the way that I played the 6pt divisor.

Here is what I am thinking as far as changing the style of play:

Originally I was betting almost every decision, but that will no longer be the case.
The goal will be to jump on a losing streak or a winning streak, thus turning the negative into the positive.
This will be done by tracking and finding the correct entry point.

I am trashing the idea of the count. So the count is no longer being used.

Choosing which side to play: You choose which side to play based off what the previous decision is. You will either be betting that the next result will be the same or different as the previous shoe. If the last decision was same as previous shoe then you bet that the next decision will be the same as the previous shoe. If the previous shoe was different than the previous shoe, then you bet that the next decision will be different.

Here is how to play.
1) You start by playing in virtual mode. You will be keeping track of the Win and Losses.
2.) You bet as stated above in both virtual and real mode.
3.) You wait until you have 3 or more W's in a row and bet according to the last result, either same or different. You bet until you have 2 L's in a row when you get 2 L's in a row you stop.
4.) Whenever you have 3 or more L's in a row, you will be betting the opposite of how you should be betting, thus you will be betting for the losing side.
For example...You will be betting for the next decision to be opposite of the previous decision. You will do this because it is the losing tend.

You bet until you get 2 W's in a row. In this case a W is a loss since you are betting the opposite of what you would typically be betting. When you get 2 W's in a row you stop and retrack, again looking for 3 L's or 3W's in a row

The best way to think of rule 4 is that you are inverting you betting, betting the opposite of what you should be betting.

The 6pt divisor will be the progression or at least my take on it which I'll explain soon.


This is my best way of thinking about how to jump on a positive/negative trend. if anybody has any better ideas than please let me know.


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Update

I added a trigger for when to bet. When you get WWLW you bet for the W's to win. You bet until you have two L's then stop. And same for the opposite. when you get LLWL you bet for the L's to win. When you get two W's you stop.

The reason why I did this is because it takes awhile to get the 3 W's or 3 L's in a row. an entire shoe could pass with only 1 or 2 opportinuties to bet.

[John1234]

I played 3 sessions tonight. Session 1 +6 units
                                     Session 2+ +3 units
                                    Session 3+ 4 units

total units+ 13

Session 2 went slow so I added another trigger for when to bet.
Session 3: I stopped with about 10-12 more decisions to go.

I will explain how I play the 6pt divisor tom.


My strike rate increased which seems like a result of following the positive or negative trend.

[Diarmaid]

Hi John,

I tested this a lot yesterday and I found that I get the exact same WL ratio as with any other method of bet selection.

In my opinion the best thing to look for is to find a fairly balanced method, and use Lanky's 6 point divisor method for the betting.

All you need for that is 50% wins and 50% loses and you will profit guaranteed. These new rules you have brought in could work very well.

But the divisor plan is key I think.

Regards
Diarmaid

[Bo0Merang]

hmm the  divisor  plan  is prevent your  bankroll from bad  wawes I thing  it is  realy  good  idea

[Bo0Merang]

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