R.D. Ellison's 3Q/A - Quads & Angels system

[admin]

Hello dear forum family.

I have kindly been given this system from two valued members (to remain anonnymous, they know who they are [smiley=wink.gif]) and I'm posting it here hopefully for the benefit of other forum members.

I'll call them X1 and X2... Originally X2 was about to post the system himself for everyone to read at the old forum, but then he retracted, I'm posting it on his behalf.

X1 wasn't too happy on the system, no harm for him to give it away.

Here it goes.



"Mr X1":

Basically, the system goes like this.

3Q means 3 sets of Quarter Bets (Corner Bets)
The author chose   10, 11, 13, 14    17, 18, 20, 21    25, 26, 28, 29

A means Angels
The author chose 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  and 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36

Note that in 3Q, there are 12 Numbers. In Angels, there are 12 Numbers too.

The author then tracks for 5 Live Spins, if there are 3 numbers from either Q or A group in the last 5 spins, they are known as majority.  The author would then launch an attack on the OTHER group.

Example:  Last 5 spins

10, 11, 3, 19, 29   (10, 11, 29 are from 3Q group)
The author would then bet on the Angels Group
using One chip to cover 1,2,3,4,5,6    and one chip to cover   31,32,33,34,35,36

With a mild progression (i forgot how the progression is like).

That's about it in a nutshell.



And then when talking about the system and intrigued by the progressions, "Mr X2" gave me yet more hints ... and the actual progression charts!

"Mr X2:"

The book was written for the 00 wheel. He says it will not work on the 0 wheel, but I disagree.

The system by Ellison is spread over many pages. Perhaps I could condense it.

A numbers = 1 thru 6 and 31 thru 36.
Q numbers = 10 11 13 14; 17 18 20 21; 25 26 28 29. The As are double streets and the Qs are corners.

He says look at the last five numbers on the marquis. I record my own. He says if there is any majority of A or Q numbers in the last five, your target is the other group. Example:
A
Q
A
N
N Where "N" is neither A or Q. Here you have a majority of A so you bet Q..BUT you wait for the first Q number as your trigger. You bet 3 times only and if no win, stop and wait for another trigger. Also, you may NOT have two back to back As or Qs from the trigger group:

A
Q
Q
A
A NO BET

I play it with three out of five only:

A
Q
A
N
A Now I am seeking Qs.

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This is the first page of the progressions.

He names two other bets, the Sledgehammer and the Angel. The sledge consists of number 7 thru 30 and the Angel is the 1st and 6th double street as I outlined. The Q or 3Q as he calls it, is the corner bets.







Since Mr. Ellison's words can't be copied exactly I'll try to provide an overview of what I read:

Regarding figure 31 he says the cost of both series is $81 and it is a "midway" cost when contrasted to other progressions.

He gives the hint to remember series #2: It is the exact double of series #1, so it should be enough to only memorize series #1 to recreate the second.

He also comments the profit on the second and third stage does not factor the money lost from the first stage.

(I noticed he uses "stage" as  in "progression step").

So, losses are $3 and for the stage 2 and $9 in the third.

He also claims you should be able to cover such a loss (and make some more) on a further session.

The goal of the approach is to balance the winnings of the winning session and the downturn resulting from a losing one.

He advices to keep the eyes open for the potential of both of the outcomings.

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Regarding figure 32, he says it shows recommendations for the A bets because of some adjustments required from going from three units as base (on the 3/Quads) to the pair of 2 lines comprising the Angels (A's).

He says losing a sessions demands $78 for A's and $81 for 3/Q, but also states a winning ratio of 14 our of every 15 sessions to compensate.

Another recommendation is to do flat bets only. He says the 7.22% win rate is enough to grind you a profit. This means a $6 or $7 per $100 wagered if that figure is accurate -and the author states he believes so.

When dealing with flat bets he advises to leave the "I have to win today" away. Detaching emotions from the wins and losses is also strongly advised if you chose to flat-bet.

I personally believe it shows the author wants you to have develop more of a long-term investment mentality when flat-betting, so a losing session is not taken so bad, but he also says such a mentality takes the happiness from a win away a lot.




Big thanks to the X's. I did post it this way because of Mr X2's express request not to give his name away, although he has no problem with open system discussion (as it should always be).

When I read there is a claim of 7% positive expectation from this system I obviously wanted to know more about it!!!

I'll leave it up to you and your own tests to see how it goes for your own numerical samples.

Best regards from a friend,
Victor.

[Mr J]

This was one of the first methods I ever played/tested. Hated it then, still hate it today. Talk about winning in the very SHORT term. Dont expect to play this for 5 hours and make a profit, just my experience with it.  Ken  ((ps - VLS, I like the "green", thanks!))

[Jish]

Looking through this forum I dug this post up from 2 years ago lol, Ive read reviews on this system on Amazon.com  (Book: Gamble to Win Roulette) and they are saying that its like the HG and how do the casinos not know about this...I have read the book, personally I didnt try this system because it made no logical sense to me but he says he beats the house edge to +7.94% so who am I to argue, testing was done over 7,500 REAL spins.

[poxet pool]

Thanks victor...nice stocking stuffer...I'm a 00 player and like to subject my BR to minimum exposure..This a hit n run?..GREAT..I'll see if it can work for me on a daily grind....I'll let u know with results i collect along the way...ohh and thank the X es..for turnin this loose...

[Jish]

Thanks victor...nice stocking stuffer...I'm a 00 player and like to subject my BR to minimum exposure..This a hit n run?..GREAT..I'll see if it can work for me on a daily grind....I'll let u know with results I collect along the way...ohh and thank the X es..for turnin this lose...

You play 00 by choice, why?

[poxet pool]

hi jish.. quote"U play 00 by choice.why?
No sirree..i do not play 00 by choice..these are the only types u will find all across u.s.a.I asked i pit boss about this once and was told by order of the gambling commission..I say they got em in vegas? then replied..they get away with alot of things in vegas...

[poxet pool]

Hi VLSroulette.. i come home with some fresh spins from the casino..kinda like to use as a example.
00 Wheel..
3   A       35 A
15 N       0   N
26 Q      14  Q
7   N       2   A
19 N       13 Q
4   A        36 A
33 A        12 N
9   N        22 N
22 N        11 Q
25 Q        00 N
31 A         0  N
30 N        14 Q
23 N         0  N
36 A         20 Q
22 N         31 A
29 Q         5   A 
8   N          9  N
31 A
30 N
21 Q
20 Q
26 Q
18 Q
As u can see the N neutral came up quite abit..and iterferes with getting a good majority hit..like during progression bets..U mention a sledgehammer bet that covers 7-30 bet..Can u provide some details about this bet? thanks

[Jish]

Im suprised nobody is testing this system even though it is supposed to win
im not refering to this system but i think alot of good ideas get thrown out either by ignorance, lack of care or people assumung they will fail

[Number Six]

Everything with no logical premise will fail. What is the point in wasting time testing it when you could be exploring facets of the game that are reliable and might actually be exploitable?

[iboba]

Yes good point Jish,
I know for fact there is a long run winning method posted recently,
but it already went in forgoten history.
Some people expect they will get it on plate without any effort or practice,and even if they do,unles it is 9 of 10
winning ratio they throw it as a just another possibility.....................Iboba
btw,and don't ask me which metod.

[Jish]

Yes good point Jish,
I know for fact there is a long run winning method posted recently,
but it already went in forgoten history.
Some people expect they will get it on plate without any effort or practice,and even if they do,unles it is 9 of 10
winning ratio they throw it as a just another possibility.....................Iboba
btw,and don't ask me which metod.

Thankyou Iboba, im glad its not just me with these thoughts, thanks for the clue

[TwoCatSam]

I have several beefs with the way Ellison says to use the system.  Before I began using a robot, I thought 7,500 spins was a ton.  Now I know it is virtually nothing.  This idea could so easily be programmed into a bot and really tested.

Not all systems are based in logic; some are based on the stars and voodoo.  I've always won more than I lost when my right palm itched.  Where's the logic in that? 

On day my palm itched so badly I had to scrape it over a brick in the wall.  It nearly bled.  The next day, in the mail, was a notice that my Social Security disability had been approved and that nearly $5,000 was being added to my checking account. 

The itching then stopped.  My dog would testify if she could and then you'd believe me!

Sam

[winkel]

Thankyou Iboba, im glad its not just me with these thoughts, thanks for the clue

It was one of the first systems I used. at that time not knowing it was Q3/A.

I lost a lot of money.

then I changed the progression to:
A: 1 2 3 3
Q: 1 1 2 2

and it wasn´t that risky anymore.

work a whole day of Wiesbaden spins and you will learn!

br
winkel

[iboba]

Sam,
Think I will get some good writer and pay him to write
a book about TCS roulette anectodes.
Could be a best seller..................................Iboba

[Jish]

Sam,
Think I will get some good writer and pay him to write
a book about TwoCatSam roulette anectodes.
Could be a best seller..................................Iboba

Dpends if it is winning material

[Jish]

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