The Characteristics of Randomness - A Test

[gizmotron]

Please define what these characteristics mean. It is impossible to read randomness if these concepts are not understood correctly.

Dominance of a grouping's occurrence or leanings by a percentage rate.

Define "Dominance"

Define "the global effect"

Define "series" for 1 or 2 (singles & doubles)

Define "pattern"

Define "elegant pattern"

Define "sleeping"

Define "grouping" (group)

Define "trend"

It is no wonder that the discussion of randomness is thought to be worthless to many. I'll bet the basic terms are completely misunderstood and most likely impossible to relate to by many.

[Rheti]

Define "Dominance"
Define "Pattern"
Define "Sleeping"
Define "Grouping"
Define "Trend"


day                              
1   Som van freq   Kolomlabels                        
   Rijlabels   s1   s2   s3   s4               
   s1          32   18   23   18   91      832   -590        242
   s2           20   7   11     9   47      540   -243        297
   s3           17   11   15   14   57      459   -360          99
   s4           22   12     7   13   54      594   -288        306
   total         91   48   56   54   249                     944


european wheel

grouping is : 1 sector of 10 //  3 sectors of 9

dominance of s1 = s1
dominance of s2 = s1
dominance of s3 = s1
dominance of s4 = s1
                              

[Rheti]

               
Som van freq   Kolomlabels            
Rijlabels   s1   s2   s3   s4   Eindtotaal
s1             7   10   14   7   38
s2           10   10   16   11   47
s3           14   14   10   18   56
s4             8   13   15   13   49
total     39   47   55   49   190

so what was the highest dominance in day -1  (s1=s1) is now the lowest..
               

[cheese]

Define "the global effect">>

I have seen this term, what does it mean? What is global effect?

[Noble Savage]

The global effect is one of those terms that Gizmotron created yet expects people to know. It won't help you read short term randomness because short term randomness is not readable, and whatever you think you see and whatever you label it (trend, pattern, dominance, blah blah blah) is only something that have already happened (and so is now useless since results are not connected otherwise it wouldn't be called randomness) and, like it or not it, happened by chance, not as a result of some secret rule that randomness obeys.

The (real) math of the game is pretty straightforward. Just look at the probability of your bet and compare that to its payout and you'll know what to expect in the long run.

[gizmotron]

Define "the global effect">>

I have seen this term, what does it mean? What is global effect?

So a few players are curious?  The term "Global" comes from a type of variable in computer programming where a declared variable can contain information that can be recognized by other computer code found in controls other than the one that created it. In effect it has a wide spread effect over an entire computer application. It's a kind of over all memory container.

So how does this relate to trends? Sometimes individual short term patterns like 5 blacks or 6 reds come in swarms of them. So I could trade "global effect" for "swarms." An example would be a trend of a dominant swarm. Sometimes you see 5-black, 5-red, 4-black, 7-red, 6-black, etc... What you are seeing is that small groups are happening instead of a lot of singles interspersed by few small streaks. (series of one or two)

[gizmotron]

... and, like it or not it, happened by chance, not as a result of some secret rule that randomness obeys.

Only a fool thinks that randomness follows a set of secret rules. To attempt to imply for me, for my sake, that I mean that is nothing more than a childish attempt to erect a straw-man argument. I know it's you Herb, snowman, ad hoc alias...

[gizmotron]

Define "Dominance"

When any trend tends to dominate any single group. If you have thirty spins where 24 of them are black then you have a dominance of black. When you see a streak of series of ones, RbRbRbRb, oEoEoEoE, or even wLwLwLwL you have a dominance of a series of ones. You can have a ones sided dominance of patterns too. Every time it goes back to black it hits a single only, it only hits one time. But when it goes to red it always hits at least twice. Now this can be a global effect, a swarm too. I mean it can go on for a full hour doing that.

[gizmotron]

Define "series" for 1 or 2 (singles & doubles)

If you look at the odds only you will see that you will see twice as many singles as you will see doubles.

This is a streak of singles: rBrBrBrB

This is a streak of doubles: rrBBrrBBrrBBrrBB

Some times patterns are in streaks of series. Some times trends involve dominances of series.

[gizmotron]

Define "pattern"

Patterns are easy. Can you see a pattern in this stream of results? rBBrBBrBBrBB...

How about this pattern: rBrBBrBrBBBrBrBBr

[gizmotron]

Define "sleeping"

When you play the dozens you have three of them to place bets at on the table layout.

You can have a time when one of the three dozens tend to not hit for a while. I call it sleeping. It originally came up over a discussion on zeros not occurring for stretches that were far more than the statistical average. So sleeping is when a group stops hitting for a long stretch. You could say that the coldest six numbers are tending to be sleeping.

[gizmotron]

Define "elegant pattern"

An elegant pattern is any time that a pattern, trend, or dominance goes into a state of perfection. A good one lasts from 20 to 40 spins. A good sleeping dozen can go on for 60 spins in an elegant pattern scenario.

I just had a good one two weeks ago. I broke it down into 10 groups:

(1,11,21,31) (2,12,22,32) (3,13,23,33)... (9,19,29) (0,00,10,20,30)

For a full hour the 1's, 3's, 6's, and 0's where the only numbers to hit.

So for a full hour 17 numbers (American Wheel) were the grouping that was working to form a perfect elegant pattern. I won every spin for a full hour. In fact the dealer got upset that I cashed out on the first loss, and mentioned it.

[Rheti]

1other
2angel
3q3
4angel
5other
6angel
7zero
8q3
9other
10q3
11other
12q3
13angel
14q3
15other
16q3
17angel
18q3
19other
20angel
21angel

elegant pattern. just after 20 th spin we have a follow-up

[mistarlupo]

Everyone should be able to see the basic randomness characteristics. However, all these trends, streaks, dominances etc. are always unique and can not be recognized (by the common people). In essence, all of the so called 'betting systems' are the same. They attempt to predict the way randomness unfolds in short term based on the basic randomness characteristics, no? The fact that a system to overcome the negative expectation is yet to come is a clear evidence that  nobody has ever done it right. Not even by accident.

In my opinion, to learn to 'read' random first of all we should look at it from a different angle. Here's a quote from Gizmotron that matches my views on this: "I'm constantly testing the scenarios in my mind, like a chess player looking at several options by imagining several moves ahead. I'm always searching for what is working best." I'm still not sure about the actual application of the idea though. Most likely a lost cause.

[gizmotron]

I've added effectiveness to trend states where they tend to act the same. A trend continues, it ends on the very next spin, and it becomes part of a pattern or pattern of trends. Effectiveness does real good, does real bad, or it becomes chaotic with no definite domination of any kind. What is currently happening has nothing to do with what it has done in the past. You might have excellent streaks that all end when you begin to bet them. That means the streaks are good but the effectiveness is bad. You've got to look at the whole picture. The goal is to use anything that is currently effective.

[gizmotron]

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