Signum system EC B&R

[Mr Chips]

It would be great if Richard was able to answer your 3 questions, but as he says, he learned the system gradually over time, and has probably never thought about it in those terms. However, he's obviously put a lot of work into the site and I think it's possible to learn the "rules" (albeit with some Q & A posted here) from the examples and sessions he has shown. Maybe later someone will be able to state the rules explicitly.  

Tangram,

Thanks for this post, which sums up my position.

If you fancy being the 'someone' let me know

[Mr Chips]

............ yes, write a book, I'll buy it.  well I guess some people are getting it, I guess it will all become clear eventually...

If I could find a co author I would seriously consider it, but it would be a mountain of work!

[Coxx16]

Thank you for the reply Chips

[Marven]

Richard,

I have a question regarding your test results for Signum system if you don't mind.

All in all, how many bets were placed and what is the total profit that was made?

Thanks

Bump.

[Mr Chips]

Richard,

I have a question regarding your test results for Signum system if you don't mind.

All in all, how many bets were placed and what is the total profit that was made?

Thanks

I don't record number of bets as I am only interested in the actual profit from a session.

I am producing verifiable results on the website for 2009 and they should be completed
by January 2010.

[bene126]

Hi this is my paly with signum system.   Mr.  Chips can you tel me: is this correct?

B/R  +/-/0    P/M    units
R  
R       +1
R       +2      P+1
B       +1      OOO
B       +2      P+1
R       +3      P+2     +1
B       +4      P+3     +2
B       +3      P+2     +1
R       +4      P+3     +2
B       +3      P+2     +1 ch
B       +4      P+3     +2 ch
R       +5      P+2     +3
B       +6      P+3     +4
R       +7      P+4     +5
B       +8      P+5     +6

here I not continue because 6 units is for me very good or I must continue?
please tell me if I play this system good. 


regards

Thomas. 

[Mr Chips]

Hi this is my paly with signum system.   Mr.  Chips can you tel me: is this correct?

B/R  +/-/0    P/M    units
R  
R       +1
R       +2      P+1
B       +1      OOO
B       +2      P+1
R       +3      P+2     +1
B       +4      P+3     +2
B       +3      P+2     +1
R       +4      P+3     +2
B       +3      P+2     +1 ch
B       +4      P+3     +2 ch
R       +5      P+2     +3
B       +6      P+3     +4
R       +7      P+4     +5
B       +8      P+5     +6

here I not continue because 6 units is for me very good or I must continue?
please tell me if I play this system good. 


regards

Thomas. 

Hi Thomas.

You sort of  got a handle on the Signum, but I need to correct a few errors.

[table=,]
B/R,+/-/0,P/M,Units,ch
R,+1
R,+2,P+1,
B,+1,OOO,
B,+2,P+1
R,+1,P+2,-1
B,0,P+1,-2
B,+1,,
R,0,P+2,-1
B,-1,P+1,0
B,0,OOO,-1,ch
R,-1,P+1,
B,-2,OOO,0
R,-3,P+1
B,-4,P+2,-1
[/table]

So far there are 12 entries, which should give enough time to either make a profit
or break even.

Note that at present there is nothing above P+2. This can often be very useful in a
session and profitable.

If something is not clear let me know.

I will reply to your PM'S a bit later.

Regards

Richard

[Only1Word]

There might be a possible error in session c1 (if i'm reading it right). . 
Row 15 shows P+5, should this be P+3?. . 
as row 14 shows a -3 under the +/-/0 column, and the previous -3 at row 12 resulted in a -2 at row 13.  As we are using a 'P' symbol, are we looking for a repeat of row 13 for the 'P' to increase to +5?
If so, then there was no repeat at row 15 (-4) which means the P should drop to +3.

I could be wrong of course but i thought i would bring this up.

[Mr Chips]

There might be a possible error in session c1 (if I'm reading it right). . 
Row 15 shows P+5, should this be P+3?. . 
as row 14 shows a -3 under the +/-/0 column, and the previous -3 at row 12 resulted in a -2 at row 13.  As we are using a 'P' symbol, are we looking for a repeat of row 13 for the 'P' to increase to +5?
If so, then there was no repeat at row 15 (-4) which means the P should drop to +3.

I could be wrong of course but I thought I would bring this up.

You are right, thanks for letting me know. I will correct it.

It should still work out at +3 units, as there is now a C Formation of

12  P+4  +1 CH
13  P+3    0
14  P+4  +1
15  P+3    0
16  P+4  +1
17  P+3  +2
18  P+4  +3

[bene126]

B/R   +/-/0   P/M   Units   ch
R   +1
R   +2   P+1   
B   +1   OOO   
B   +2   P+1
R   +1   P+2   -1
B   0   P+1   -2
B   +1      
R   0   P+2   -1
B   -1   P+1   0
B   0   OOO   -1   ch
R   -1   P+1   
B   -2   OOO   0
R   -3   P+1
B   -4   P+2   -1


at row 5 we have +2 why? in row 2 we have +2 as well but color was R,so on next spin we assume +2 and opposite color black? and here is color R and +1 so we have P+2 no?or when came OOO spin before OOO we dont count?

at row 6 we have opposite color but P is going down. . why? because +/-/0 is 0 and previous +/-/0 was +1 and is higher?


why we note count P in row 7


at row 8 is 0 and previous 0 was in row 6 and is followed by +1 at row and color was B,so we assume that in row 9 come opposite number and +1 because we want that P will be higher. . . i think I understnad this system reverse

[Mr Chips]

B/R   +/-/0   P/M   Units   ch
R   +1
R   +2   P+1   
B   +1   OOO   
B   +2   P+1
R   +1   P+2   -1
B   0   P+1   -2
B   +1      
R   0   P+2   -1
B   -1   P+1   0
B   0   OOO   -1   ch
R   -1   P+1   
B   -2   OOO   0
R   -3   P+1
B   -4   P+2   -1


at row 5 we have +2 why? in row 2 we have +2 as well but color was R,so on next spin we assume +2 and opposite color black? and here is color R and +1 so we have P+2 no?or when came OOO spin before OOO we dont count?

at row 6 we have opposite color but P is going down. . why? because +/-/0 is 0 and previous +/-/0 was +1 and is higher?


why we note count P in row 7


at row 8 is 0 and previous 0 was in row 6 and is followed by +1 at row and color was B,so we assume that in row 9 come opposite number and +1 because we want that P will be higher. . . I think I understnad this system reverse

You also have +2, so I can't understand your query here.

Your first error was at row 6. After B +2 there should have been R + 1, if there had been another B then
it would have been B + 3.

If you make errors in column 2 it will effect the rest of the session.

[Bazeegar]

Richard, I have following questions for you:

Question 1)

How do you select a spin after a "Zero loss"?

Example:

11*
0  <--- Loss
32
14
1  <--- Do you select this spin?

Question 2)

Why did you apply the symbol M-1 in the sixth row (instead of third) in your elaborated example? In all other examples you applied the symbol (P or M) in the third row (except for session C3 where row three was a zero). The first three rows of session A3 are identicle to your elaborate example and you have applied M-1 in the third row (in session A3). What prompted you to wait till sixth row in the elaborated example?

[Mr Chips]

Richard, I have following questions for you:

Question 1)

How do you select a spin after a "Zero loss"?

Example:

11*
0  <--- Loss
32
14
1  <--- Do you select this spin?

Question 2)

Why did you apply the symbol M-1 in the sixth row (instead of third) in your elaborated example? In all other examples you applied the symbol (P or M) in the third row (except for session C3 where row three was a zero). The first three rows of session A3 are identicle to your elaborate example and you have applied M-1 in the third row (in session A3). What prompted you to wait till sixth row in the elaborated example?

11*
0
32*
14
1*

After 0 it will go to the next spin.

Yes I will have correct the elaborate example. There are two versions of this system and I have
shown the other version. Thanks for pointing it out.

[Bazeegar]

Yes I will have correct the elaborate example. There are two versions of this system and I have
shown the other version. Thanks for pointing it out.

That takes lot of thinking out and makes the things easy . Thanks for the answers.

[Natural9]

Richard I have a PM for you but I would like to ask you

Is this systrem subjective on some bets  if the two of us played the same spins at the same time would we be placing same decisions

[Natural9]

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