Best baccarat systems.

[John1234]

I might be his girlfriend or wife or simply his lover.  Why should people sit back and let scum rip off people that don't know any better.  Much more rewarding to share the love and let them decide for themselves.

hahahhahahhahahhahahahahahahahahahah John?? a girlfriend or wife??hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Your Johno you idiot. Damn now you have multiple personalities.

[Jeromin]

I'm a fully paid member of John's forum. Not only his systems work, they are constantly improving on them with the help of the members. Granted, they are not the best a writing clear manuals and the systems are fairly complex, specially the money management ( much of the MM rules carefully picked from the best available in this very forum) but the help you get at the forum is first class. One caveat: you need to learn them inside out, which takes work, you need a sufficient bankroll and you need patience. Not many bets placed per shoe. But over several shoes they do work. I guess that's three caveat.

[John1234]

Excuse me while I borrow this quote.
"The best available in this forum"   and what did the wannabe scammer punk end up with?  The D'alambert with a new name, maybe he wasn't sure how the original was spelt, so simply called it a Ladder  .   Decent people can download this stuff for nothing and decide themselves if it was worth 599 now reduced to 399  

And yes I really want to pay for advice from some punk wannbe scammer who couldn't afford to play a $20 minimum table last year    Maybe when I want to know what to do, I'll simply seek out the resident casino hustler, most have them .

John boy and Malcorp two more thiefs to contend with.  Close to 700 free downloads so far, this is far more than any of Izak's stuff I've given away for free

Damn I was wrong you not Doris. I don't care that 700 downloads have been made. that means less people playing the 2hi version which only has 5 losses in 100 shoes so far. You know what 2hi means? highest bet is 2 units. You are doing a great thing John. Keep it up.  

[Jeromin]

 The creators of those systems are not running a hit and run operation, but a forum where people have been asking questions, contributing ideas and testing them since the beginning of the year. Con artists don't hang around, John1234 and malcop do. I don't hear people asking for their money back. Only the occasional frustration from trying to understand parts of one system or other, or from finding out they were doing something wrong. Every time, help is at hand from John, malcop or any active member. What you don't see is people complaining that they have been conned. What you see is ideas being thrown in to make the winnings higher and faster, the systems simpler. Truth is, few people have the patience of a sniper. Here at VLS I'm sure most people can think of ways to make money at roulette if it involves waiting most of the time, patiently, and playing carefully with strict MM rules, to make a few units per session. The difficulty strives in having the patience and discipline, not being greedy or chasing loses. To their credit, both authors take every suggestion seriously and throw themselves at their work, coming up with improvements. Where you see a "punk" I see a young student with limited resources but unlimited enthusiasm and energy. He has a system but not the money to make the most of it? Great! An opportunity for me.
BTW how did I pay for it? By playing and winning with two of many roulette systems available here ( for which reason I happily contributed to the costs of running this VLS website ), one based on columns that I did some testing on, another very popular one based on streets, tweaked to suit my style and bankroll. How? By being patient  and betting only when the opportunity was ripe. The tensions in the roulette table are always resolved. We just cannot predict when. When we understand that, winning is easy. Is all this really so hard to believe?

[hermes]

Baccarat is for sure the most fair game in casinos! The same as ECs but no zeros. Lately many casinos in Las Vegas even don't offer Baccarat because it is not interesting business for them - slot machines for dummies are!
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[hermes]

Easy way to beat Baccarat is to observe for while who is going most B or P? Than bet better one with Labouchere.
That's for Kindergartens.
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[hermes]

Or... play second last with the Hybrid Labourchere progression!

1-1-1-1   X-1-1-X   1-1-1-1             X-X-X-X
1-1-1-1   1-1-1-1   1-1-1-1 add 2   X-X-X-X
1-1-1-1   1-1-1-1   1-1-1-1 add 2   X-X-X-X

start 12   won         lost                 won 12 units
units                                              start again 
Baccarat is the most fair game in casinos but slowly diminishing!
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[istockbest]

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