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[bikemotorman]

Hermes are you refering to in your last post to playing one col or doz or playing 2 cols or dozs.
I like the idea ride the streaks.
Playing one col or dozen is very hard you could go fourteen spins then have a win.
That would be seventh step on the penthouse progression lol.

Stuart

[Jeromin]

I'm currently testing this system, very slowly and by hand, on a set of 10,000 spins from DB, that the folks at automatedbots.com kindly gave me, while I wait for a bot order. On twelve 60 spin sessions so far I've had:
12 x LLL
5 x LLLL
1 x LLLLL

on other sessions played live I never so far encountered a 5xL. When I'm done I'll know it 5XL is regular or a freak occurrence

[Jeromin]

BTW, consecutive spins with  the same column:

4 spins: 18 times
5 spins: 3 times
6 spins: twice
7 spins: once

[betatester]

Hi forum. Hi bike@
Bad news.
Progression 24/37 against 13/37 has his dissavantages.

This is a full month in Weisbaden. Real spins. One month.
14.637 spins.
(we) have starded 10.674 attacks with this distribution:
1   9522
2   767
3   253
4   91
5   26 <<< This is your last bet !!! I'don't how many units $$$.
6   9
7   4
8   1
9   1
10   0
11   0
12   0
13   0
   10674 -15 = [10.659 x Unit] - [15*- HOW MUCH YOU SAID $$$] = ?

Listen. This is a such great disgrace.
Aren't you you taking too much risk

Do your calculations...
This is a break once each 700 attacks... (more or less, each 975 spins)

LAST TWO COL (or DOZ)
LAST TWO DOZ (or COL)
.....

Listen, every time you build a progression against a given figure, the same amount of the full progression when you lost the LAST spin (for you) is the index of the number of spin MINUS : 2,7% of them to reach that concrete limit.
n spins - (n pins*0,272) = +/- YOUR BREAK POINT (in spins quantity)
In fact, again, you must multiply the mean beat amount for that figure to know your TOTAL LOST AMOUNT

Said you play the Gran Martingale.
You will lose for sure before arreiving to 2^10 spins... mix the zero in the middle...
For the Grand Martingale you can expect a break once each 700< spins !!!

Sorry but is your money after all.

Take care.

Cheers.
Betatester.

[hermes]

Jeromin, I saw a few times 10 dozens in row on live roulette wheel and nobody noticed it only me! The others were busy with pouring chips on the table after loss.
Hermes

[Jeromin]

Hermes, I don't doubt it. This is just a preliminary result, from columns, not dozens, and only 800 or so spins. I'm sure there's a 10 set waiting for me in the near future.  I would never play a progression aimed at fully protecting me from the seemingly impossible. We all know that  in Roulette anything is possible. I'm just interested in the ratios.  What is, on a given system, the drop from say,  LLL to LLLL, is it a sharper drop than expected, and what progression might profit from it. Thats all.

[panzer]

tried it in atlantic city.  it is awesome.  won easily.  will now find on line casino.  need info where there is good one

[bikemotorman]

I hope you did well with my method are you playing correct please give me the details.
You can't play on line if you reside in the US I think you can play if you borrow a person in the UKs account but they may know the ip range.

Are you playing this way.

Last spun cols
Last spun dozs
Last spun cols
Last spun dozs
Over and over again.

Stuart

[hermes]

panzer is German guy you can see the German eagle (or Polish?).
Hermes

[bikemotorman]

I have found a more safe progression for my last spun cols then dozens.
I am using a fibonacci progression, these are money amounts on each of our pair of cols or dozens ready.

5 10 15 25 40 65 105 170
I think this progression is safer and more of a grind.

I have been going up on a win when I get ww I go back to five dollars, also I cover 0 00 when my bets get higher lol.
I think we can grind out a profit 50 to 60 dollars per hour with my method.
Now I need to master my own method lol.

Stuart

[Jeromin]

After about a 1,000 spins, starting with LLL tanks. Well, at least with the 1-3-stop progression: 11xLLL + 7xLLLL = 18u. But 2xLLLLL eat up practically all the gains.  Of course, I could make it a 1-3-9 progression and hope there isn't a LLLLLL somewhere in the next 1,000 spins... Maybe someone wants to run the full 10,000 spins on RX or excel and count all the L's. Besides, the longer the progression, the lower the initial unit value, and this system is a grind as it is: 1.4 u per 60 spin session on average, with 3 sessions in a row without a single betting opportunity.  In DB, for example, a 1-3-9 progression would mean a maximum unit bet of €250/9=€27.77, hardly worth the hassle.

[Number Six]

on other sessions played live I never so far encountered a 5xL. When I'm done I'll know it 5XL is regular or a freak occurrence

5 losses betting two dozens isn't going to be that rare. 8 will be rare. Anywhere at 13 or above is a freak incident and no progression can handle that. The thing is, waiting for any trigger or specific sequence of losses isn't going to translate to an advantage. Try testing the bet against some numbers, then test random picks against the same numbers. There'll be no difference in the results. 

[Jeromin]

fourteen 60 spin session equates playing for about two hours Monday to Friday for three weeks.  Adding to that some twenty odd shorter sessions without a single 5xL means, if the results are representative, that someone playing two hours a day five days a week for a month will encounter LLLLL about twice. Rare enough for me.
The problem is not the rarity as such, but whether at some point the correlation between probably and actual occurrence  of a particular sequence breaks down or becomes weak enough to make a profit.

[bikemotorman]

As I recall Steve Morgan waits to play after LLLL he puts 250 on each of his pair of dozens or columns, I think he also puts 15 on zero.
Steve very clearly states he waits for his method in virtual play to collapse then he places the above big bets.
I think he wins 18 out of 19 tries at his method.

Stuart

[Number Six]

fourteen 60 spin session equates playing for about two hours Monday to Friday for three weeks.  Adding to that some twenty odd shorter sessions without a single 5xL means, if the results are representative, that someone playing two hours a day five days a week for a month will encounter LLLLL about twice. Rare enough for me.
The problem is not the rarity as such, but whether at some point the correlation between probably and actual occurrence  of a particular sequence breaks down or becomes weak enough to make a profit.

Playing like this is only theoretically sound. In order for it to be realistic, the randomness would have to follow exact rules, which it doesn't and never will (if it did roulette would be easily beatable since everything would be due at precise moments, or at least within the limits of any progression). It's the imbalance between probability and what actually happens that steamrolls all systems...as you mentioned, yes, it will break down and you can count on it. But you might not get 5 losses for three months, or you might get 5 losses twice on the trot in your first set of spins. You never know when it's going to happen. This, fundamentally, is the whole problem with systems and makes them too risky to invest any real money in.

As I recall Steve Morgan waits to play after LLLL he puts 250 on each of his pair of dozens or columns, I think he also puts 15 on zero.
Steve very clearly states he waits for his method in virtual play to collapse then he places the above big bets.
I think he wins 18 out of 19 tries at his method.

Stuart

An 18/19 hit rate is 95%. This is pure nonsense. His overall hit rate will eventually conform to the expected value of 64%, meaning he's losing at house edge rate.

[Number Six]

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