Exploring Kimo's Nuke Quads

[Carpanta]

Basically, Kimo's strategy involve tracking ball movement among sectors while on second hand an observance how stars are showing. Matrices do a lot to follow this tracking. And i believe he merges wheel observation with positions of the shown numbers in the carpet. Then he tries to overlap both events producing x bet selection. Not to say he plays inside bets. It has nothing to do with VB and for sure he doesnt care about DB but ball movement as i said.
Remember all Kimo's strategy is bound to creat an order inside the wheel and the layout itself.

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I see it like this.

I have hes book and i don't need or want to read it.
It has no value talking about a balls movement or the order of the numbers on the number ring and explore the relations with the tables layout.

The only thing it is, my opinion, advance roulette system approach, no more or less.
For me roulette is a hole other ball game and that.
I am sure that if you would add some elements regarding wheel signature or other visual ballistics element, you can succeed to actually get advantage with an edge.

But even if you succeed to find advantage with an edge, so does it not mean that you will win all the time and being a professional player.
It is more complex then that.

There is no escape from fluctuation even if you have advantage with an edge.
The key is to find a method where you can measuring how good and strong your edge is when you have advantage, to get an idea of how strong your edge and advantage really is.

Lets assume you have 3000 trails as total of different sessions with your method.
Lets assume you have 15% edge, then you should know is has nothing to do with WOW i made it.
Because 15% with a std around 2.0 is not the same thing as having a 15% with a std of 4.0.
That will give a clear indication of how vulnerable your method are regarding fluctuation.
That is why there is more then one reason to apply a specific criteria of staking plan and so on.
COR and ROR is just words for some and have a different meaning for others.
Chance of randomness and risk of ruin.
Among other terms.

I post this just to give you a hint.

O_0

[Jakkalsdraai]

I also prefer to play vb in live casinos.

I have to say this though. Kimo's stuff works. Simple.

Cheers
Jakk

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I have to say this though. Kimo's stuff works. Simple.

I dont know how to say this polite - but even when i mention true values behind and about the the skills and what matters - make your statment very poor ...

O_o

[Noble Savage]

I have to say this though. Kimo's stuff works. Simple.

What "Kimo's stuff"? He gives no actual system.

Kimo Li is overrated. Like John Patrick is.

He just wrote a book about dissecting the wheel/table layout and mentioned a few visually-simple ball movement patterns (without consideration of any relevant parameters such has drop zones, rotor/ball speeds, etc). So what? He HASN'T offered anything so new or revolutionary. Anybody could write such a book and then say "I won't reveal the secret method, you have to figure it out on your own".

[Jakkalsdraai]

In the challenges we did I only played Kimo's methodology.

It is no system. And I do not claim to know everything. I do know it works. Look for yourself. I just about only flat bet with $2 chips only later I raised to $5 because the other guys were betting higher stakes and I thought there was a chance I would get overtaken.

In his book the first half teaches you how to know the wheel as a GPM player and how that related to the carpet. Although I also play mostly vb like you, I only know the wheel that well because of Kimo's descriptions and methods to memorize it.

The second half of the book shows you different methods that can be used. This refers to the different types of movements on the wheel. If you but study one of those movements and if you are patient then that in itself is a winning strategy. I use Nukes but I combine it with the matrix (which really is pies and stars not true?) I have found that with these strategies few numbers are accurately predicted.

Does it ever lose? Well I suppose it does, just like VB does. What I can say is that I think most of my losses occurs when I get greedy and sart betting the house. If you keep it small just like in the challenges, you leave yourself with enough place to maneuvre and recover. Why don't I only play this way? Well, if a right table is found the excitement of vb is for me. no tracking but physically in the game with calculations and last second bets. The action is great. And profits can be very good. I like action. With Kimo's methods one needs a relative large BR and small bets. I have to track everything and I know that on a tilted wheel VB should make me quicker money if I do it right.

What makes Kimo's methods good. Play it on any wheel....all conditions are right. No tilted wheel required.

It is the old story of people wanting to pick up a written page, read rules 1-5, strictly apply those rules and walk out with the cash. I think we all know that this is stuff. It just does not exist. So what I'm trying to say is that Kimo's stuff is definately not a system. It is various methods that the GPM player can combine and use to his advantage. That book you all elude to and that you all say you have read........don't just read it. study it. For those who know the wheel well, concentrate on the second part of the book. Ask yourself what is Nuke and Hemispheres and Pendulums. Try and take advantage of them. What else can I say.

Cheers
Jakk

BTW I'm not saying this to get into an argument. I do not play systems at all and I agree with you that systems just do not work.

[Noble Savage]

haha, to each his own I guess.

I did study it a while back (otherwise I wouldn't speak) and couldn't see a reason why I should continue to study it as the "movements" where completely random and so were the results. Nothing significant, and this is not just my opinion but that of advantage play pros who know the in's and out's of the game (such as Herb). It's called Blind DS and it doesn't work except in heavily tilted wheels with constant rotor speeds. But then again, Kimo claims he can apply it to RNG and still win which to me is nothing but a claim and there are lots of them around. lol

Like yourself, I prefer VB.

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So what do we have that John Patrick or Kimo talks about.
Numbers and sectors and use movements with that means nothing.

Rotor speed variations.
Ball hitting different deflectors
Jump and scatter
Different ball types.
Different spin techniques with back spin or strong or weak force spin
Short or tall dealer
Left or right handed dealer
Air pressure

It is a random device and numbers has 37 degree of freedom

Beginner question

If you would use a dealer release number and get outcome to get a distance.
Then how would you eliminate all the other random factors that exist

In the old days where you could find 7 to 8 out of 10 smacks into same deflector is history today.
So if you would not use all the visual ballistic skills and try to find a wheel signature - what would you do?

It boils down to one thing - there is a difference when you talk about roulette systems and visual ballistics that give you a high probability area where you have eliminate certain factors due to conditions and depending on wish visual ballistics skills you apply.

And it not so easy that you could only aim for one high probability area regarding 2 or 3 pin game.
There is regarding visual ballistics a hudge area of different methods to take andvantage of what happen with in the wheel.

O_o

[Carpanta]

All you have to know about roulette so as to beat it: there are 4 sectors, 3 sections, 3 positions of numbers,right/left side of the wheel (red high-black low/red low-black high) taking it as an EC chance , colour and low/high characteristic of each number, the proper matrices to track all this and observation how and when in  a random manner this variants create  patterns because of roulette rithms produced by the flow of what's outcoming.

Patterns arising in a ramdom way let's you randomly beat roulette. The right bet selection is a consecuence of all this process.

If all this sounds meaningless much better for the sake of casinos and myself.

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Carpanta

I have a question.
When you have a movement or a pattern or sleeper or you name it.
Does the wheel still have 37 degree of freedom.
Simple yes or no.

Do you believe the wheel has 37 degree of freedom if you apply true visual ballistic skills and have the conditions with the wheel and regarding the method in use and that you have at least one high probability area.
Simple yes or no

O_o

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Every one is free to do what they want.
The truth is that maybe 1 in 1000 roulette system players make it and same goes for AP.
No matter what there is no easy walk.
But the way we walk is so different if we talk probability and expectations.

O_0

[Carpanta]

The wheel has no freedom at all. It is bound to some laws, some of them unknowns for sure. It cant produce outcomes in a caotic way despite it looks caotic.  Everything fits when you put an order in the wheel. So believe it or not, some numbers/areas are most likely to show than others. Why?
I have not the answer but it happens. It has to do how randomness works? I believe so.
I follow patterns i learnt to recognize aided by the proper tools to track outcomes. While this patterns keep on showing i take profit ot them. There is no need of VB to beat roulette if you learn how to relate things inside the wheel and the rithms produce by the outcomes flow.
So i play inside bets, 4 or 5 numbers at the most each stake. If i have hits above the porcentage it takes by probability then i have an edge.

Regarding the method in use do i have a higher probablity to have a hit in a certain area in the wheel?
YES.

[Carpanta]

I agree with you, I have cookis. NO EASY WALK AT ALL. It implies adquiring knowledges through many hours study and practice,  then a lot of patience while playing with a proper bankroll, etc. Personal attitude while playing is a must of course.

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So you think you have andvantage - edge ? positive expectation.
Sorry but I dont wont to offend you but ...

Lets assume I have 10% with preseived std around 3.0 with a certan amont of sessions, trails that I can measuring.
Then when I use real math and probability and not false positves and get a true value of actualy std behind it and a true picture ... then it is some-thing else then I mention for obvios reasons ...

So how can you show me that you are not dealing with a game with a negative expectation.
Do you know what andvantage is and what a edge is and how to measuring it with out dealing with false positives.

O_o

[Carpanta]

No offense taken at all, I have cookies. Why should i be offended while making money in the casino? It is not me who have doubts. I have already made up my mind. It is you that need to found an explanation throug plain maths. You will end in the same place all the time: roulette is unbeatable. So keep on doing your maths, standar deviation calculations, etc. Now dont take offense with my words. I dont pretend to be rude, sure. But i believe you are not in the good road to beat roulette with maths backing your expectations. All the math you need is calculation, nothing else.

So as not to go on with this no end debate i feel like leaving it here. You have your opinions i respect but dont share. I have my owns you dont believe in.

[Carpanta]

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