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The 14 number Dominance by Compa and LeBear

Started by Compa, July 09, 2008, 12:33:18 PM

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J.Daniels


LeBear

Hi bjb007

   If you re-read the top of compa's original post it says in capital letters.  VERY often comes together.  Maybe he should have put the word caveat in there.  Here is a thought bjb, try it for say a few thousand spins at Spielbank.  Then re-read Sams post above.  No it is not the HG by any means, but it does look at the numbers in a different light.
    As for numbers having memories, I don't know I've never asked one myself. ;D

best regards,

LeBear

bjb007

Yes, in a few thousand spins there's no telling
what you'll find.  But as we're talking random
here what happened in a few thousand spins,
no matter where from, is irrelevant.

The possible combinations from a number of
spins is 37x36x35x34.......x1 so what are
the chances of a particular combination of
14 numbers appearing again?

Is there a mathematician in the house?

bjb007

Well, I tried asking a number if it had a memory.
Conversation went something like this...

Me: Hello Sixteen. Haven't seen you around here for a while
16: I've been sleeping.  Had a hard day yesterday.  That
     effing ball kept hitting me.  Had quite a headache so
     skived off for a while.
Me: That wasn't a nice thing to do.  Think of all the punters
      putting money on you.
16: Sod the punters. How'd you like to be hit by that effing
      ball all day, every day, 24/7, year in, year out.  You'd
      be pissed off too.
Me: Well, you could wear a helmet.
16:  Don't think the boss would like that.
Me: Haven't seen 37 for a long time.
16:  Don't think there's a 37 on this wheel.
Me: Bugger.  I was doing 1,000,000 spins hoping
      that my birthday would come up.
16:  Should've been born in 36.
Me: Then I'd be a year older.
16:  You're impossible to please. Oh shit!
Me: What's wrong?
16:  That effing ball again.

I could see that this conversation was getting
me no-where so I took an asprin and had a nice
lie down.

TwoCatSam


Tucktuckster

being serious again -

the key to this is to look for times when groups of numbers are landing together.

fact : there are times when all numbers that end in a 0 or that end in a 1 will land together.

i have often heard people comment that 23 brings 32 and 32 brings 23. Well - guess what - i do see this quite a bit. but i also see 23 bringing 9 and 0 and 27. However i tend not to notice these since they dont look the same and im not looking for combinations.

however we get to the bet selection - we are all looking for a link between a set of numbers that will hit more than expected for a short duration. whether this is a root group, sleepers or hot numbers they are all variations on the same theme.

we are looking for a bunch of numbers linked in some way. we then play because they are either hot or they are overdue.

some prefer to use maths as their selection and will pick overdue sectors or numbers. some will use visual aids - such as root groups or numbers ending in 5 etc.

irrespective of the above, numbers have no memories and numbers do not bring other numbers.

there are simply groups of numbers that can be underhit or there are numbers that are currently hitting a lot.

most humans dont have memories so how on earth a number can have one is anybodys guess.......

Compa

Quote from: Lanky on July 09, 2008, 08:19:31 PM
Hi Compa

Mate  I think there is a contradiction here with what you say.

0 3 5 7= 14 numbers that hit every 3 to 7 spins
4 6 8=11 numbers that hit every 6 to 10 spins
1 2 9=11 numbers that hit every 6 to 10 spins
9 6=7 numbers that hit every 8 to 12 spins.

Ok now this is where I think there is a contradiction.

Why have 9 6 cadence as a stand alone group. ???

When 9 is already in the 1 2 9 group
And
6 is in the 4 6 8  group.

That way there would be only 3 groups & not 4.

Further to that you say
4 6 8 hits every 6 to 10 spins
and
129 hits every 6 to 10 spins

By that reckoning then the 9 & 6 as a stand alone Group would have to hit on the 11th & 12th spin ???

Now if this is correct then I will be rich in no time & will fly your arse to Sydney just for Coffee.

Lmao

Your Friend

Lanky





Hello Mate. Now, i forgot to tell you all that i only play the cadences 0,7,3,5. The other groups is just for illustration of the scenario. I use them only as landmarks.

Thanks
/Compa

Lanky

Compa

Thanks for the reply Mate.

That cleared a few things up Cobber.

Good On Ya Mate

Lanky


bjb007

As the house mathematician seems to be
sleeping just thought you'd like to know
that the number of possible combinations
of 14 numbers from 37 is.....

6,107,086,800

Don't believe me? Go here

nolinks://nolinks.mathsisfun.com/combinatorics/combinations-permutations-calculator.html

put 37 and 14 in the boxes and set the other two choices to "No".

I rest my case.

LeBear

My final response to BJB007,

     Here at VLS we pride ourselves in the fact we are a family.  That is what seperates us from GG RF and all the other forums combined.  What has happened here in this thread is 2 family memebers are at odds with each other Compa, and BJB.  The  part that is disturbing is that this riff has carried over from another thread and from another fourmn.  We don't operate like that here on VLS.  As a Global Moderator we have to take a middle ground and be as it were peace makers in times of turmoil.
     Opinions are like backsides everyone has a different one, and everyone on this forumn is entitled to there opinion as long as it is in good faith, with no undertone of another agenda or vendetta.  The past is the past men and both you BJB and Compa have got to put the past behind you.  The past is the past, both of you need to let it go.
     If the negative undertones continue I will pull this thread and then that will be the end of it.  So with that said, lets move forward in a positive direction and all work at becoming better roulette players.  Everyone dreams of the HG and if it possible to accomplish.  I for one do not know that answer, but will continue trying to solve this great enigma!

best regards,

LeBear
     

Compa

Here's some Lucky Shots I just made at these Lucky 14 numbers.

The 1,2,5 spins etc, indicates the amount of hits of the "unplayable" numbers before one of the 14 lucky numbers wins.
And I managed to catch them all. Geez was I lucky..

30 
24   <--1 spin
18   <--2 spins
20 W
13 W

12   <--1 spin
1
36
36
21   <--5 spins
3  W
0    <- 1 spin
27 W
21   <--1 spin
28
19   <--3 spin
10 W
19   <--1 spin
20 W
17 W

18   <--1 spin
10 W
6    <--1 spin
29
11
22   <--4 spins
10 W
-------STOP +144 units
 

lucky_strike


Compa


TwoCatSam

/Compa; LeBear

I very much want to learn what you are doing here, but---as usual--I'm confused

I can't see where you're waiting for the "miss 4" or "4 in a row" so are you betting because of "4 in the last ten spread out"?

How does the +144 figure in?

TwoCat

Clothdog

I agree. Compa, Where is your betting methodology? You go 2 spins, 1 spin, 5 spins?????? You're just indicating win here, win there etc. When do you start and when do you stop? Are playing these numbers continuously? And if so, what is your rational? I don't get it.


30 
24   <--1 spin
18   <--2 spins
20 W
13 W.....................why don't you continue?
12   <--1 spin
1
36
36
21   <--5 spins
3  W...............................why didn't you continue?
0    <- 1 spin
27 W
21   <--1 spin
28
19   <--3 spin
10 W..........................Are you continuing or stopping?
19   <--1 spin
20 W
17 W
18   <--1 spin...is this  a loss?
10 W
6    <--1 spin.........are these losses 6,29,11? or are you waiting?
29
11
22   <--4 spins
10 W


cd




Clothdog

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