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The 14 number Dominance by Compa and LeBear

Started by Compa, July 09, 2008, 12:33:18 PM

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xman1970

Nice 1 Compa  ;D

Been trying to work a mirror system myself  8)

Hope you have faired better.... ::)

Carlitos

...... Hi Compa and LeBear,



Why not follow the cadences as the come out on the spin results? I have been looking at them on the permanenzen, it seems to be that one always appears that has an very long string......


Carlitos  8)

Compa

Hi Carlitos! No, mate i dont think so:D

Then you would have to pick groups as we did. Not numbers.  And that means that these other groups are not as frequent and predicitable as the one we picked!

Cheers
/Compa

17black

Greetings to all

I have been working on a variation on what has been presented thus far, which has produced some spectacular results in testing. it has all the right hallmarks - bets are quick to qualify, there is action a plenty and profits appear to accumulate quicker than losses.


The Cadences

We are only interested in two groups
Group 1:     0, 3, 5, & 7
Group  2:    1, 2, 6, & 9

The Progression

1,1, & 2

The Strategy
We are seeking to exploit the cadences by backing them as they appear. Betting commences the moment a number from one of our group of cadences appears. If we arrive at a table and see for example that the number zero has appeared we immediately bet the 14 numbers derived from group 1 for a maximum of 3 spins using the progression mentioned. Subject to the rules of abandonment we continue backing the chosen cadence until we lose the progression ie until we lose three spins in a row. If we win during the progression we recommence betting with one unit again using the same progression on the cadence which has just won. The game is a virtual continuous cycle. The one and only exception to this rule is the rule of abandonment

Abandonment

We abandon a cadence when two consecutive numbers from the alternative cadence not being followed appear. For example if we are pursuing Group 1 and two consecutive numbers from Group 2 appear we abandon the first sequence of bets and start betting on the new sequence using a progression of 2,2, 4. The new betting progression reverts to normal that is 1,1,2 on a win.

Example:
based on the following numbers appearing:
0= qualifying bet
3   W
5   W
1   L 
2   L
5   L   There is no third bet as we have abandoned Group 1 and are betting the cadence represented by
         group 2 because of the preceding two spins
6   W
26  W
24  L
28  L
21  W
28  L
4    L
14  L
8    No Bet - We have lost 3 in a row and are now waiting for one of our two cadences to appear.


Whilst it is early days a short test I ran over a 106 spins produced a profit of 243 units. The system can produce some spectacular short term results.

Further testing and input from my cyberforce of comrades and friends would be appreciated.

Regards to all

17 Black




TwoCatSam

Mr. Black

It should go without saying that I have great respect for your modifications and I thank you for the first one.  At this point, I have no reason to change horses.  The first one you posted works for me so far. 

If I were to scan and post my numbers daily, would anyone be interested in testing 100 numbers per day?  They are from Riverbelle Live, Single 0

Sam

17black

Good to hear - Have at look at supplementing the system with the second cadence - That also works well.
Cheers

djroulette

first of all let me just say this system looks phonemenal. a massive thank you to black 17, compa and lebear on your hard work on creating this system. I have been using it on dublin bet for the last half an hour using 0.50 chip bets = 1 unit and so far my bankroll has gone from 1,060,70 to 1,143,70. early signs are very good. obviously alot more testing to be done and i will continue for a further 2 weeks before putting my money in, but just thought id give my input on how its going. im obviously new to the forum and am very grateful for all the information i have gained so far.

dj

TwoCatSam

Welcome to the forum, dj.  It's not infallable; it lost today at Wild Jack.  We don't sweat the losses as long as the wins are coming strong. 

It's like the US stock market nowdays-------if'n you ain't in it for the long haul your startin' to sweat!

Sm

djroulette

yeah i dont think we ever will find a way to win 100% of the time but as long as there is the wins are covring the losses we cannot complain. had another winning session last night of 43 units. am going to play for an hour or so today as it is the weekend and see what happens.  ::)

TwoCatSam

dj

So true.  The question is not how it did today; the question is how does it grind over time.  Does it grind out a profit? 

We shall see.

Sam

TwoCatSam

All

I just re-read 17Black's post about the new method.  I wasn't going to test it until I read this prhrase:  "cyberforce of comrades"  Who could ignore such eloquence??

Truthfully, (ahem) the first method is slow--which is OK, but I think a person could easily do both.  Just requires some fast bet placing.

More later.

Sam

djroulette

sam my newly found friend. today i had a huge loosing session. - 80 something units. i was not impressed to say the least. however i am still up over the two days. and as for black 17's english skills i must clap that effort.

TwoCatSam

dj

We can't win them all.  If we win three and lose seven and put money in the bank--we won!

Sam

17black

Hi to all

I have had a rethink on the new variation that I posted and after considerable testing it looks pretty unstable. My original variation to the Compa and Le Bear version "mark 1"  still appears to be travelling well in testing.
What is however frustrating about my variation is its failure to harness the run which inevitably follows  a single win. I am convinced that such runs are conjured by the casino devil - tempting you to change tracks so it can swallow the meagre chips won.
Patience is however the key to winning and.....it is really one thing to say it and a completely different thing to practice it.
As a follow up I have again been researching a variation to " mark 1" which appears to improve its strike rate facilitating the use of a more aggressive staking plan. As a matter of reality I think that patience can be traded for a realistic profit but not for meagre returns.

The Proposal
Sam or anybody else I would be happy to apply my latest twist to " mark 1" if you would be kind enough to post say a 100 numbers daily.
I will post the results daily and reveal the system at the end of say 7-10 days testing. The art of gambling is really getting in and out as quick as possible and in this respect we need a realistic commencing notional bank and exit point.
I believe a starting bank of 500 units is reasonable with an exit point of somewhere between 50-100, but please let me have your input here.

Cheers to all

17black

VLSroulette

QuoteI believe a starting bank of 500 units is reasonable with an exit point of somewhere between 50-100, but please let me have your input here.

This is exactly what I do with the VLS/ATILA combination. 500 units to win +100. Recomended two sessions per day.

I'm finding one straight session looking for +200 is way too much and it is my perception the "first 100" are somehow achievable easier, while the "second 100" are usually a struggle.

Thumbs up to this 500/50 ratio [smiley=thumbsup.gif], or in my case 500/100 :)

Your friend,
Victor

VLSroulette

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