The Grandpa Way Revisited

[waaahome]

Your whole point is to proof in your own way that i'm wrong?

Why would i explain this for a whole year. at least try to.

Why would i care for your test?

What do i have to loose. You obviously missed the part about getting use to playing like this. About skipping. About all the other things???

........ So you are almost even playing for two hours with a MECHANICAL SYSTEM?

Didint i hear mechanical systems don't work. So this is pretty good yes?

Why do people have to proof anything anyways. Play it and like it or don't play it if you don't.

Mr Steve notice the .....homo part of this fagots attatchment. You have to punished him like you panished me yes?

[waaahome]

Per your testing i just looked at them.

This post sais to play up to 3 hits after a D.

I play up to 5. Go back and read my posts.

Now do this calculation up to 5 hits after every D.

Do your calculation with a 105 unit bet.

And tell me the results after you finish calculating.

[poxet pool]

Hi Gramps...Sorry u have to deal with biased mods and a biased forum owner(spamopolus)..Knowledge sharing from players like u gave me greater options of bets to play with the game i love..Roulette..U have respect of all real players..only real players can see that u invented a street pattern play overlooked since the invention of the wheel..which is much more value added than any gutter or theatric insults that pretty much dominate forum discussions..Ur willingness to share and help.. proves what a genuine person u are.. unlike a spamming system seller and losers looking for someone to blame..Helk if all my runs were like beo's post..i'd be more greedy and stay around the cashino a little bit longer..Pay no attention to Mamogram as u can see he has no skills and have to depend on magic rocks for luck..tell me mamogram did that silver bullet "chi" generator double ur bankroll lately?   

[keel44]

Sorry waaahome.  This is my thread and my methodology.  I gave out strict instructions on how to play this.  It is very hard for me to believe that anyone is getting nowhere with this.  I wonder if people are playing it right?  Someone should give me a set of numbers.  Trustworthy, of course, and I can show what the outcome would be.  It is so simple once you get the hang of it.  Please no garbage on my thread like arguing and getting nasty.

[keel44]

Hi keel44

Thanks for your post, just tried your method on 35 real numbers. I know this is a small sample, but am already -65 units down and up to 5 unit progression.

What has been the highest (unit number) progression you have reached in your experience with this method? as you said, you have never lost a $300 b/r. I take it you were playing $1, 1 unit stakes.

Cheers Rocky

I have went up to betting 12 dollars on each street once, but my balance was already at a new high point.  I made a really profitable win!

You see, you don't have to reset back to the beginning, if you want to be more aggressive.  The most drawdown I ever had was about 200 units.  Please understand I have played this lots, but not THOUSANDS of times.


If anyone has a set of numbers, I'll show whats what.

[Jish]

Hi Gramps...Sorry u have to deal with biased mods  

Oh really? I would consider myself pretty open minded and I am perfectly willing to accept everyones opinions witout passing judgment. So when you say bias, what is it in reference to?

[keel44]

I gave this a honest go with 101 spins that can be found on this forum, ending up -17 units because of 12 losses in a row! nothing like a holy grail... check the attached for details. I was thinking of testing it 100000 like waahome said you should, but I wouldn't sit at a table for that long! even at 100 spins it would take near 2 hours  

well I can say though with hindsight I would of bet on the just the D's and won around about $3150  

I had a look at your spreadsheet.  First of all, you don't need to track in that way.  Second of all, I don't believe you used my progression correctly.  Most important of all,  You do indeed lose 12 in a row, but your in the middle of a run.

A run ends when your balance reaches a new high point, or your drawdown is 300.  That of course is optional. You could grind it out until 500 drawdown


Your example shows good profit until you lose 12 in a row.  You could go for about 6 more losses in a row before 300 unit drawdown.

[keel44]

Level 1 betting: 1, 1, 2 per street = 12 units
Level 2 betting: 2, 3, 3 per street = 24 units
Level 3 betting: 4, 4, 5 per street = 39 units
Level 4 betting: 5, 6, 6 per street = 51 units
Level 5 betting: 7, 7, 8 per street = 66 units
Level 6 betting: 8, 9, 9 per street = 78 units

Grand total: 270 units LOST if you lose 18 bets in a row.

Of course, if you get a win in one of the later levels, you need a couple more wins to reach a new high point.  note: (don't forget to drop one numerical level after a win. example: if you lose with 6 per street, drop to 5, 5, 6)  But that buys you more time to catch a cluster of wins.  You don't need the wins to be all in a row either.  Just a stretch of 5 out of 12 need to be wins or 3 out of 7.  You get the picture.

You see, you go up and down the different betting levels.  You may reset back to level 1 after your balance reaches a new high point or you can be aggressive and drop back only one level and continue from there.

I was playing aggressively before and I kept going along.....never resetting back to level one, and I was winning with 12 dollars per street....... drop back to 11 per street......... lose a couple........ then win again at 12 dollars per street.  BIG PROFITS !

The choice is yours.

[Rebirtha]

Level 1 betting: 1, 1, 2 per street = 12 units
Level 2 betting: 2, 3, 3 per street = 24 units
Level 3 betting: 4, 4, 5 per street = 39 units
Level 4 betting: 5, 6, 6 per street = 51 units
Level 5 betting: 7, 7, 8 per street = 66 units
Level 6 betting: 8, 9, 9 per street = 78 units

Grand total: 270 units LOST if you lose 18 bets in a row.

Unless I'm missing something fundamental about this, this progression doesn't make sense. Once you reach 'level 3' and start betting 5 units per street you will win a total of 60 units but have spent 75 and keeps getting worse.. can you explain this and I'll give it another shot..Seems like you are taking the loss and then betting from the middle of the progression.. just my opinion but it would seem better to play virtually until you have 8 or so unhit progressions and then start a progression that doesn't end in a loss.

[topcat888]

Someone should give me a set of numbers.  Trustworthy, of course, and I can show what the outcome would be

Hi Keel, heres some genuine numbers for you...

25
17
12
26
3
19
13
12
7
28
31
22
33
30
21
14
30
32
3
3
18
22
2
20
29
34
17
21
15
4
6
14
17
17
33
3
24
18
20
4
36
19
9
7
15
28
18
24
19
5
19
25
24
6
28
14
18
12
26
21


Cheers
TC

[keel44]

Unless I'm missing something fundamental about this, this progression doesn't make sense. Once you reach 'level 3' and start betting 5 units per street you will win a total of 60 units but have spent 75 and keeps getting worse.. can you explain this and I'll give it another shot..Seems like you are taking the loss and then betting from the middle of the progression.. just my opinion but it would seem better to play virtually until you have 8 or so unhit progressions and then start a progression that doesn't end in a loss.

If you get a hit when betting 5 per street, you drop down to betting 4 per street.  Start from that point until you get another hit.  Maybe at that time your balance will reach a new high point.  Keep dropping down one after win until new high point, then start over.....run completed.


The wins and losses come in waves.  We aim to scoop up clusters of wins and bet virtual on long streaks of losses.

[keel44]

Hi Keel, heres some genuine numbers for you...

25
17
12
26
3
19
13
12
7
28
31
22
33
30
21
14
30
32
3
3
18
22
2
20
29
34
17
21
15
4
6
14
17
17
33
3
24
18
20
4
36
19
9
7
15
28
18
24
19
5
19
25
24
6
28
14
18
12
26
21


Cheers
TC

O.K.  I will go over how these numbers play out.  I need to assume everybody has the tracking part down.

VW=  Virtual wins  VL = Virtual loss  W = real win  L = real loss          Let us start with $1000 balance $1 unit size

25
17.....VL
12.....VL
26.....VL
3......VL
19......VL
13.......VL
12.......VW
7.......W.......
28.....L
31.....W......
22.......L
33.......L
30.....W.....
21.....L
14.....L
30.....L
32.....VW
3.....L
3.....W.....
18.....L
22.....L
2......L
20.....VL
29.....VL
34.....VL
17.....VL
21.....VW
15.....L
4.....L
6.....W.....
14.....L
17.....W.....
17.....W.....
33.....L
3.....L
24.....L
18.....VL
20.....VW
4.....L
36.....L
19.....L
9.....VL
7.....VW
15.....L
28.....L
18.....L
24.....VL
19.....VW
5.....L
19.....L
25.....L
24.....VW
6.....L
28.....L
14.....L
18.....VW
12.....L
26.....L
21.....L





We have 18 losses in a row to end.  Unfortunately, we ran out of spins.  We were up in profit earlier, so you might want to keep chasing one more round.  This run ended very bad.  I have not seen 18 losses in a row until now.  It seems this run has got me.

I will go back and modify the running balance total later.  I can see visually that we had some profit earlier on.

[waaahome]

  still going strong. Thanks!

[waaahome]

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