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Started by husky, March 08, 2010, 03:56:53 PM

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husky

Pattern 9 is a born loser. Was on the black list. After this test, it doesn't go even in a testing anymore. Play - off.

I pressed the spin button too much, went a little over 577 spins, but they were without the stake per spin.

356 (1) + 376 (2) - 52 (3) - 264 (4) + 704 (5) + 190 (6) + 80 (7) + 116 (8 ) - 376 (9) = 1130 units profit in 577 spins with these 9 patterns.

husky

I can't say I'm surprised, because I'm shocked with the results of the pattern 10. It was on the black list when coming from 15 to 10 patterns played. I must pay more attention in next testing and playing to confirm this great repeating of this pattern.

Notice again, after the second peak, a great sleep following it. It's in the spirit of forced statistic equalization. Random or moderated again?

356 (1) + 376 (2) - 52 (3) - 264 (4) + 704 (5) + 190 (6) + 80 (7) + 116 (8 ) - 376 (9) + 624 (10)  = 1754 units profit in 577 spins with these 10 patterns.

Now I'm going to sleep. I doubt that I'll be at home at all this weekend, so probably update to 20 patterns will not be over till monday, for sure. I have 2 days of work. 1,5 of pattern input, an a quick look for maybe another patterns.... though with these, I'm quite satisfied. It's hardly possible that all 20 get profit in a period such as this one, but the trend is obvious. On one bad pattern ending in loss, goes one in similar profit, and one with great profit. Not bad at all.

husky

I'm not over yet with this test, but I'll try to leave tiago anytime I can. I'm turning it on now, if no connection loss, it will work for 9 hours again, when I'll come home and need the computer.

husky

Wow. 08 - 16 hours CET, 453 spins written. Another great database. I have time to let it go to 500, and then end.

If this one gives similar results as the first, I'll play harder. This is what I needed for my own full confidence that I didn't have all this time. A more then 200 spin database. Hand writing max 190 (more then 3 hours of following spins), or less by play. In play, a few patterns always went steep up as on the graphs.... and when any of 15-20 did that, there was profit in bankroll and a stop of play had happened.

It's still left for me to finnish the current test, and to aalyze this one. One day next week I'll try to have a 24 hour database at all costs, and that will be it. By the next weeks end, I'm ready to move this thing from hobby to real deal.

husky

Pattern 11 done. This is my main pattern. First one ever discovered. It has 2 unique numbers, and 2 that overlap with 1 other pattern each. I've been earning on it a lot, even before the pattern play. It can bring money, a lot money, but just can't lose. It's my global trigger. It is biggest mistery, when these numbers fall, something else repeats too. They were very often in this case, didn't sleep much. A lot of lonely numbers, that's why it's not in severe profit.

If I'd have to securely do my wager, I'd choose this pattern, with higher stakes. All other can do this or that, but this one is if not for getting rich, then to wager account safely.

Total:

356 (1) + 376 (2) - 52 (3) - 264 (4) + 704 (5) + 190 (6) + 80 (7) + 116 (8 ) - 376 (9) + 624 (10) - 12 (11)  = 1742 units profit in 577 spins with these 11 patterns.

husky

Pattern 12 is done. Ended exactly as started, 500 units.  :lol:

The interesting thing about this one is that's been found with reverse logic. I haven't found it for it's repeatings, and didn't have too much of it now..... I found it long time ago, because of it's long sleeps. With the monitored statistic on the wheel, came to the conclusion that if it sleeps long, when it hits, it hits. And that's true. A lot of hits, not much dispersed, but not put together.

This one is one of the patterns that could easily be misplaced, but not a loser. In the interests of the bankroll, it's better not to play, then to play a pattern more. Because if you happen to enter the table between 400. and 550. spin in this test, you'd go down almost 300 units. Not a joke. It can and would get back, but as the situation with the pattern 9 and it's long going down line, better to avoid it. If it doesn't good in the next 500 spin test, it's off.

Going out now. Shutting down the spin collection at approx 500.

356 (1) + 376 (2) - 52 (3) - 264 (4) + 704 (5) + 190 (6) + 80 (7) + 116 (8 ) - 376 (9) + 624 (10) - 12 (11) + 0 (12)  = 1742 units profit in 577 spins with these 12 patterns.

husky

Testing done with 577 spins. I had 3 patterns left, they're done, and then a conclusion.

Pattern 13. One Big peak, everything else bad. Bad is one thing that is not for public about this pattern, and the pattern 14, I'll keep for myself what it is, but I won't keep this patterns, so it even doesn't matter.

Pattern 14 very bad. Great test. I'm on to something, but this big test did show me someinteresting facts that I couldn't see while playing allof them together.

husky

As with pattern #11, pattern 15 is one of my favourites, so I was worryed - what if it goes bad with this session. But it too showed that it's good. Profit or a loss, it can both happen for any pattern, but the best ones are always good and that's a fact.

A lot of money earned with these 4 numbers repeating together, I'll stick to this one till the end.  :)

husky

And now the conclusion. How to see a pattern - when a pack (I pick 4 numbers for each) of numbers often come together, not randomly obviously, coming one after another.... and then sleep together. That is the point of it all.

When a hit - play it - it will come again.

When there's no hit for xx spins, stop playing and wait. It will sleep. When it comes again, it will return the loss and go to profit. This is why, when you look the graphs, the best thing to see, and the thing that it's all about - are those steep upgoing lines. That means there was a multi-hit. 1 hit is a trigger. 2 hits are the lowest upgoing lines. That's 36 unit up. 3 hits in 3 spins, those are approx 70 unit upgoing lines. Fourth hit, 3 units on all 4 numbers, +100 approx, rare and hard to find. Only the best go to 5. hit. That's 4 units per number in the pattern, +130 approx. To get a 6. is a miracle, and about that I've talked before in this topic. It just can't happen. Due to statistics, due to a loss that a casino would have. After a number or a type of numbrers in some logic way repeat 3-4 times, almost everybody play it. Big loss for the casino it would be to hit more.

So, the interesting thing, that before or after a great repeat, there is a quite long sleep. It's hard to use it for profit, you never know when it will come, but it is a excelent moment to stop play. Globaly or for that pattern. After a 4-5 times hit, switch it off. Stay in that profit!

That's the way I've been playing till now. Find good repeaters, patterns, play'em all. Some will lose, some will win.... If there's little profit, take it. If you are in any amount of loss, just wait till that steep upgoing line, when it happens in any pattern, you come back from a loss, take the profit, or stop in a acceptable few-unit loss. Rather then keep playing and wait for another. That's only for continuos play or a try to get high profit fast. But if you are in small profit, or an acceptable loss and continue to play, there's a big chance that there will be no repeat in any pattern for 10-20 spins, and you're back in loss again, waiting for a repeat.

I will not play patterns: 12, 13 and 14 for sure.

Patterns 9 & 10 will be in one more test, with 500 spins I have collected few days ago.

Pattern 4 was very bad, it will be monitored. Surprisingly bad result, but none is untouchable.

356 (1) + 376 (2) - 52 (3) - 264 (4) + 704 (5) + 190 (6) + 80 (7) + 116 (8 ) - 376 (9) + 624 (10) - 12 (11) + 0 (12) - 68 (13) - 262 (14) + 64 (15)  = 1476 units profit in 577 spins with these 15 patterns.

This means, that if I was playing 1 € per number, that's 4 € per pattern, I'd earn 1500 € in this 9 hours of play.

I'm going to put here the worst possible scenario, the lowest peaks of all patterns together:

1: 488 = -12
2: 444 = -56
3: 372 = -128
4: 236 = -264
5: 460 = -40
6: 336 = -164
7: 368 = -132
8: 436 = -64
9: 120 = -380
10: 312 = -188
11: 392 = -108
12: 476 = -24
13: 328 = -172
14: 238 = -272
15: 400 = -100

SUM: 2004 units

So, if all the 15 patterns were at their lowest bankroll situation at the same moment, we'd need 2000 units to play for 9 hours and win 1500 units. But, it's just not possible for all of them to be in a loss. Some of them must be in profit after a period of time. Because something must fall. Something must repeat now or then.

What I didn't mention all this time, on Dublinbet, for a 2000 € deposit, there's a 15% bonus added to this amount. So for the optimal situation, We deposit 1500 units for playing. We receive 1500 * 15% bonus, which is 225 units. That's a starting bankroll of 1725 units that has to be enough. In a work-day time, 9 hours, you are 1500 units in profit. That's about what I showed with my own play, 600-700 units deposited, bonus received, and both accounts doubled during the wagering, that's 9 x (deposit + bonus) amount. With the deposit of 1500 €, and the 225 bonus, we need to wager 15 525 €. Not much.

This is the data for the pattern 11, my personal best, and resulted with -12 units.

Session      Bankroll   
Process Time:   00:15:14:625   High:   664
Total Spins:   577   Current:   488
Spins/Hour:   60   Low:   392
Simulation Time:   9 hrs,37 mins   Average:   487,1
         
Units Placed      Layouts Placed   
Total:   1.236   Total:   928
Won:   1.224   Won:   24
Lost:   1.236   Lost:   904
Net Win:   -12   Net Win:   -880
Net %:   -0,97   Net %:   -94,83
High:   16   High:   4
Current:   0   Current:   0
Low:   0   Low:   0
Average:   2,1   Average:   2
         
Unit Drawdown         
Maximum:   272      
Current:   176   
   

So, 1236 units played. Times 10 pattern = 12 360 units for 9 hours, and we need 15 525 to wager. That's more then two thirds.

Total profit with the bonus would go to 1750 €. Great stuff.

But, the important thing is, I'm coming down from 15 to 12 or maybe even 10 patterns in play. So, the starting bankroll can be smaller, lowest point will not go down that low, and approx 50% wager will be done in this kind of session.

Now, I'm on to the second test that will show me where am I for real with the 12 patterns played. First I'll take a quick look how would I go with these 3 patterns I've quit, 12&13&14.... and then go to testing. Two more days of testing, and if they're good, the 3rd day I'm in play for big.

Any more sceptics about this system?

I worry myself about how confident I am that I'll be in profit again with this next 500 spin test.... Freaky feeling. Looking forward to play for money again, this week I'm on to it.... By the end of the Easter time, I could make some good money, but I whatever happens, I must make a continuous 24 hour spin database and test it. There ain't no f.... thing that won't happen in 24 hours. Repeats, silly spins, big sleeps of any pattern, any number non-showing or showing.... and that will be the ultimate test that will not be published here. That will be the ultimate tutorial for my way of playing, saved and fully explained in RouletteExtreme software. :)

husky

Test 2, 500 spins. Not so good profit, but profit:

Pattern profit/loss
1   -352   
2      +108
3      +100
4      +492
5      +44
6   -228   
7      +204
8      +108
10      +4
11   -216   
15   -64   

SUM +200

Pattern 4, which was in the bad loss last time, had the best profit. Done the re-test of the losing ones, lost again.

Pattern 1 and 11 surprisingly in loss, but they have 1 number overlap, and had it's ups, pattern 1 two very good hits, and then a loss. Pattern 6 and 11 were losing, and recovered a bit, both after the spin 300 which is very interesting, because they have no overlap.

With this profit, we have to include the profit from the depositing bonus.

I've been testing a few two-number patterns lately. Today, I've tested 2 of them with the system I've developed for 2 numbers in pattern. In both sessions, 577 and 500, both had profit, every time. It's pointless to spend too much time to discover more of them that come together, when I can use two by two. Less risk also.

A day rest, I've left today Tiago's system, but during testing I corrupted the number writing at 200 spins.... then started writing manualy.... then missed few spins and erased it all. No use of it. 24 session needs more time-planning and no use of the computer for 24 hours, but be by it, so if connection breaks, to turn it back on through 10 spins, or everything is lost. I'll need a 07 - 07 test wthout sleeping.  ;D

husky

And the other 5.

That's eleven totaly. I think I'll go back again to 15, but with 4 2-numbered patterns. 2 tested completely. One is being tested now, after all this, and 1 has to be picked from few suspects.

GogoCro

Great job!  :good:
i will live it run at DB table 1 and let you know. I had many live continius spins from DB but i did it with all tables.

husky

Too much problems with the 24-hour collecting. All I got is two 200-spin data. I'm going to analyze both of them now, with the real stuff, all of the patterns together, for both 200 spins.

That's the last thing here on forum. Who doesn't think it's promissing.... I can't and don't want to convince anyone. Last days I did the slow and easy tests, just for my own game improvement. All data is here and on my blog. Anyone wishing to improve his game and profits, there's pm. No constructive talk here.

I don't think there will be problems, so today I'll start playing again for real again, with 11 patterns, and test the 2-number system & patterns with these 577, 500 and 2 200 sessions.

Herb6

You pattern method is not going to work.

1. For starters, Dublin bet is too random to exploit any bias.  Look for another wheel.

2. The patterns you are using are bacially meaningless.  The spin samples to which you are curve fitting each pattern are far too small.  All you are really finding are disconnected links.

Neat idea, but it's not really going to work out.

husky

I disagree. I haven't seen a loss with this system. It's only matter of time it get's to profit. I'm almost done with the first test with 200 recorded spin. Again, a profit is achieved, bank went from 500 u to 1200 in 60 spins.  :yahoo:

If I'd only end the play with the starting bankroll, every session, I'd still be in the 15% profit from the deposit bonus, which is a great profit for itself, on the long term, without a loss.

I'll bet anyone, in any amount of money, that this system will win on a DB table 1 wheel. Any time. Always. In 5, 50, or 500 spins, but it will not lose. That's why I need the benkroll of 1500 which is going online to DB right now, and I do not start if I'm limited by time.

husky

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