Dublinbet.com - live casino - roulette table 1

[husky]

System version 1.1: The soft edition

Basic idea:

- pick 3 numbers
- add 2 if loss till 14
- increase all + 1 if loss
- decrease if won all by -1 and the hit number
- decrease favorites -2 if it was a favorite hit

Picking numbers is a very big and compicated chapter. I don't have it

on paper, I have it in years experience, math studying, statisticaly

based decisions, controlled rendomness of the wheel etc. Not a free

knowledge.

•••• Playing forward ••••

We pick 3 numbers, 1 unit each and 1 unit is always a start for any

number any time.

If loss, add 2 numbers.

If loss, add 2 numbers.

If loss, add 2 numbers.

If loss, add 2 numbers.

If loss, add 2 numbers, and +1 unit on those 11. Why? First, we have a profit if a hit any time till now. Second, we can't play all 14 as favorites. Eleven is much but not all of them.

If loss, add 1 number, and +1 unit on those 13.

= 14 max (optimum for the system, maths and statistics, also a most

numbers played for the wagering)

If loss, add all +1 till a hit.

•••• Playing the middle. ••••

If a hit at any of the steps, and the result is not overall profit, we

remove the hit number, and decrease all other bets by -1.

If a hit on favorite (number with maximum amount staked, we have 3

or more of them) at any of the steps, and the result is not overall

profit, we remove the hit number, decrease all other favorites by -2

and decrease all other numbers by -1.

When we have the system rolling, if a hit (most played numbers -1)

happens without overall profit, add only 1 new number next lost spin.

When we have the system rolling, if two hits (most played numbers -2)

happen without overall profit, add 2 new numers next lost spin.

For 3 or more hits in a row without the overall profit (hard to happen),

add new numbers by your own conclusion depending of the bankroll,

stake per spin and number of the numbers played. Include in the

decision to add less or don't add if you are not sure what you want,

add more if you have a clue of next spins.

When a longer period of play happens, there will be differences

between stakes per number, don't correct them, every number is

unique by stake, except the favorites, they go down together. Never

play less then 3 numbers as favorites. Never continue to increase stake

on any number, it goes down after any hit. Letting the stake on 1 or

more numbers go up continuously increases the risk for the bankroll,

and gives the luck a chance to affect the overall result of the whole

system.

*Note, if there is a decrease situation, and a lot of numbers and units

are to be removed, maybe you won't have time to remove all, don't

panic, first remove the one thrown, then decrease by some order, from

lowest to hughest number. If you have few seconds left, stop

decreasing, and just remember what numbers you haven't decreased

for that unit or two. Those few units won't affect much the bankroll,

and on the next spin, if it was a hit, remove 2 units, if it was a loss,

you just don't have to increase them.

•••• Ending session ••••

Any time, any amount of profit - stop at the overall profit. Worst thing

is to play high stake and a lot of numbers if you have had a hit and

profit. Chances to hit again are decreased too. Restart the system and

continue to hit again with the basic system and low stake.

If we suffer a great bankroll loss by playing a session, and get back

from that serious loss by hitting favorites, or multiple hits at any

amount of stake per number, and we get close to starting bankrol, end

session. Again, worst thing is to play high stake and a lot of numbers if

you have had a hit. Take a loss of less then 10% of the peak lowest as

a good result.

For example. You start with 3000 units. You play and lose

continuously, or with ups and downs. After any amount of played spins

the bankroll is down to 1000 units (-2000). You have a favorite hit, a

few lower stake hits. You're up to 2820 units. That's -180. Peak low

was 2000, so 10% = 200. You're 180 down. Had hit few great

numbers. The next overall stake is still big. Still a lot of numbers. If you

miss 3-4-5 spins again, you're down below 2000 again in a second....

Stop play.

Other possible option that minimalises the risk of fast loss is to

decrease all numbers to small stake, to 1, 2 or maybe 3 units per

number and continue to play. Stakes per number can reach up to 20

units per number, so decreasing to 1-2-3 when recovered from a great

loss is still not a best move, but it feeds our wish to go for those

numbers that we picked. Yet again, a better option is to stop at that

small loss. Because, we always think that when we are lower then the

bankroll at the start of the last session, we are in a loss and should

play furher. That's addicted thinking built in our head. That 180 units at

the example can and will be earned in few next succesfully played

sessions.

•••• Professional play ••••

I have suffered great ups and downs through my roulette history. My

bankroll was never predictable. Most of my mistakes came from my

head, not the systems I played, with my experience, so I can say few

skills that affected my winnings and gave me security in play.

- never start play if you can get interrupted
- never do something that needs more concentration then playing

roulette (doing pushups between spins is ok, but writing a relevant

things in word or cooking lunch is not ok)
- always play the system, don't put a chip for fun or "I think" bets
- don't be afraid to increase bets if a loss
- don't be foolish not to decrease if a win
- it's better to restart the system with low stake and 3 numbers then

have a lot of them with a high stake, and risk small bet return

percentage or a multiple losses with a high stake
- exclude emotions during play
- take a rest if you need it, or if you can't think what numbers to place

next
- have a decent bankroll, 2000-3000, don't have less, maybe the next

spin will be a favorite, don't play more, in case of a bankroll loss, it

can't be returned in a reasonable amount of time

At the end, the calculation for basic play:

numbers / total stake / profit if a hit
3 / 3 / +33
5 / 8 / +28
7 / 15 / +21
9 / 24 / +12
11 / 35 / +1
13 / 22+2
14 / 33+4+1
14 / 44+6+2
....

We get much slower loss when starting play, less profit when a favorite hits, slower coming back from a loss, more but weaker favorites. Excelent for learning to predict numbers, for less confident players who are not focused on favorites, but on trend hitting.  

[Noble Savage]

Not a free knowledge.

You keep saying this. So how much are you selling it for?

[husky]

It was never my priority. Much greater satisfaction is to win. Received money = higher bankroll for me, not a take the money and run option.

I'm not offering any specific information about the number selection, I offer education and cooperative play. In-play conclusions, descriptions of some whee'sl unwritten rules, wheel behaviour.... all played by my money live. I gave the system here with which I play now on SLC and implemented in between DB system sessions. It can be used on any casino you follow and predict good.

Only Dublin's system is specific, no thinking, just play and win. Selling it at fixed price.

For everything else, send pm or mail with the proposition and we'll arrange something. Or we won't. I'm not a sellet or frauder, I don't know how much some system or data is worth, there are whole books for few €, or guaranteed winning systems for few hundreds of euros. We all know that there is no mathematical system that works, that's what I said at start for both methods I described here - it is not about the system, you need a reasonable one, but the number selection makes the difference. I'm just sad that many people here judged me here from the start for being a selling noob, but reading between the lines shows who is' honest or not.

Both systems explained in detail, db system has exact number patterns, Slc has trend patterns. How to give someone that data and how much is it worth - somebody tell me please!!!! I gave pics, tests, bankroll situation.... I'll guve more tests  if needed, live, just say when and where. But how much is my effort worth. I proved some things to myself too lately, changed parts of my play, but the basic idea always remains the same. I don't turn around as the wind blows.

[Spike!]

no thinking, just play and win. Selling it at fixed price.>>>

How much is the fixed price? Does this system give you the edge over the casino?

[Noble Savage]

Received money = higher bankroll for me

That's not a real excuse. If your system(s) works you shouldn't need other people's money to grow your bankroll.

I'm not offering any specific information about the number selection, I offer education and cooperative play.

Of course. After all you have no system that gives a real edge.

Selling it at fixed price.

Like Spike said, how much exactly?

@the mods: Shouldn't this thread be in the system advertising section?

I proved some things to myself too lately, changed parts of my play

That's called curve-fitting.

I gave pics, tests, bankroll situation....

If you really are a winner why would you bother doing that?

1) You're a winner but you need to brag in a public forum about your winnings. (which is stupid)
or
2) You're not a real winner and are just advertising a system that you want to sell.

Obviously it's the latter.

[husky]

Omg, I gave here tests, and all db screenshots are with this system only except the last one, when I came from 301 to 900 € with 3100 played, it was with both systems combined.

Pm me for any direct offer or proposal. All tests, general questions, discusions of written stuff I do here and only here.

[Spike!]

Pm me for any direct offer or proposal. >>>

So its not a fixed price, then. This is very confusing.

[husky]

I really don't care what mods will do. I once already locked a topic, and got talked out of it on pm. You are pesimistic from thestart, and only read what you use against me. I already wrote the price. I will not do it again. It is not even important. Nobody will pay that much.

If I was a seller; I'd sell on every roulette forum on the net. Go and try to find me anywhere else selling it so eager as you describe. You will not. On the whole internet, I'm writing only here and on my blog on Croatian language which is on from 2007. and has none commercials or affiliate programs which sellers always have. Here to, I don't offer any casino joining programme, just the way how to beat them.

So, you think I give too selective or fake or not proven data, I think I gave too much, and I also wonder why. But this is the forum where I learned many things about online casinos, when I decided to start play online. I've read a lot, gave this topic to it, system I play. None has the edge, but the number picking has it, for this particular casino - vuetec's dublinbet.

Everything about it has been said, it's just left for me to say these patterns.... I will not in public. So I moved the conversation and explanations to another system, another way of my play and another casino. Till I break it's code and give exact data, I can only help generaly with it.

[Noble Savage]

Omg, I gave here tests, and all db screenshots are with this system only except the last one, when I came from 301 to 900 € with 3100 played, it was with both systems combined.

Big deal.

Pm me for any direct offer or proposal.

Fact is, no real pros spend time posting screenshots in forums and begging for PM's, only scammers do that.

[husky]

So what do they do? Go around and spilt on other players work?

[husky]

Also I wrote here, my playing sessions last for few hours mostly. I have time to surf, write here, do house work.... my play is preorganised, no surprises, so I don't spend my time here except the time I play, this is also somekind of a diary for me. I don't use paper for systems and tests, so everything is here as backup and on my HDD.

[buffalowizard]

And still he refuses to give us a clear understanding of what he does and how he does it...you're just as bad as all those 'I have a holy grail, but I'm not giving it to you, I'm just going to dangle the carrot and wait for you to bite' mob.
If you're so successful then go make your millions and dont bother with us mere mortals.

[husky]

Ok. Locking the topic.

P.S. After almost 2 months of play (switching to 11 from 20 patterns), I neither once lost or even withdrew money without the profit. Good luck all.  

[husky]

Just came by to put a screen shot. Not much for you European people, but in Croatia with my 400 €/month income it's quite a success earning this. Two months no loss.

Profit by play is 1078 € (108,62 %) plus 4 bonuses per 46 €, which gives me the overall profit of around 1260 €. With that included, it's 110,18% yield.

Also, 550 € earned with 33 000 € wagered on SLC. 333 deposited, 500 bonus, payout 880 €.

And, yesterday I lost 301 € for the first time. But not playing any of these two systems, but testing third one. My stupidity was back for a day. And it costs me. I don't know why I do it. Always happens when I'm in profit, I start experimenting. When in a loss, I'm carefull with every cent.

Going back to these two systems, mainly the DB's pattern system, because I will not play SLC anymore this summer. It has too obvious magnetic work to decide the outcome, much more obvious then DB. It has bizarre results sometimes. Not a fair roulette. 150% bonus for the first deposit is worth of risking, but play wihout the advantage is not greatfull there. Though I like the thing that they don't have 48 hour withdrawal term which DB has. I lose days with it. I sometimes do the wager in a day, and have to wait for 1 more to withdraw.

I'll calculate some more the play @ SLC, I have a clue what is their pattern, I'll use it, but more like in the winter. I have much more time in the winter because 1.3.-1.11. is my bussiness'es season.

Hear ya.

P.S. Notice, that 200 loss was because that 3115 wager session has ended. I ended in profit, and I never play a cent more when I do the wager. The system was in play, in loss, it would go back probably but I never take that risk. In the past I lost that way few times, and I could never forgive my self. So count that loss out. If it was a real loss it would be 300+ €

P.S.2. Not selling anything, just showing off.  

[husky]

Got back my loss immidiately. Played a new version of my system. Two systems combined.

That lost session was worth though, I found out how not to play. Did a little push up and now it's working.

I modified this last written system for less risk, and for playing doubles. It wasn't possible to play this system with numbers and DB's pattern system also with numbers. Now it works fast for wagering.

As seen on last stats and here - there are no losses. Very rare daily losses, and only one deposit loss.

One loss was 1 €, one 6 €, one was due being in a loss during play and doing the wager at the moment, and still was with that 210 € loss in profit with that deposit. One loss of 301 and 23 days profit. A lot of skipped days due to work and family.

What is most important, my number prediction skill for DB is becoming very precise. From exact short-term number hitting to prediction of a sector, pattern, duration of it's sleepers or hot numbers....

I could analyse the way it's randomness is controlled, it think I'd do more damage, at first to myself, and to many people who'd maybe go the way they'd get lost in translation, and lose money by experimenting.... and then blame me for it. Who can understand the outcomes, can easily understand this topic and stop making mathematical systems, because none never, and none will ever win on roulette. Only the number and pattern prediction can give the player an advantage in play (player's concentration, bankroll, cool head, non-greedyness etc I consider as learned and accepted as only way of play).

From the first post here, I'm just trying to describe my knowledge of this controlled randomness, which is a fact. There are proofs of it.... things you could never see happen on DB table one. The more things you find that CAN'T, ot MUST happen in a certain period in time, the more advantage in play you have.

It's amazing, still for me, after 4 months of testing db table patterns how they work. It's a every day normal thing to happen. Exact number coming together. With the system explained here on first few pages, it works absolutely amazing. In all tests, any time of day, any patern of 11 played. It's the trigger for this whole topic. And I'm still writing here as my diary. I still didn't earn a cent from anyone but from the Dublinbet and SLC for one session. And I'll still write here and will till my topic is here. It brings me a place for writing down my conclusions. My disk gets formated, but this topic stays with thoughts and data.

In the start the wheel has 2,7% advantage.... my advantage over DB table one, on the long run seems to be around 5% PLUS the deposit bonuses of 15% which are NOT shown on these stats. It's +15% on every deposit. It takes me to 7-8% advantage.

So, for all those pesimistic smart-asses that came to this topic - i hope I have enough data to prove I'm not a scammer.

In the attachments....

A picture of last session, first after a session loss, 301 deposit, 46 bonus, 624 withdrawal. Got it back, and went to profit 22 euros.

And a cumulative mega session from 27.3. to 31.5. Did 5 sessions, that's 5*46 = 230 € bonus. Total Bets €17,529.60. That's approx 35058 units played. Total Total Payout Percentage 105.81%, with the bonuses, that's 107,46%.

I don't play tired. I don't push play. I don't play over my head. I don't play if I doubt I can finnish my session if it doesn't give profit fast. I never play more then 0,5 € per unit - maybe next year when I prove even to myself that I'm sure I can play 99% days without loss worth of mentioning. And that's another reason why my stakes are still low, why sometimes i still play few euros, just to earn few units and go my way. With the 400 € salary and 2000 € income on roulette in 2 months, I'm quite happy. Invested some, traveled, and kept most of it for further play.

I'll open this topic again in hope we can get some decent talk, and I'm always here for questions. But I'll ask moderators to delete non-constructive and offensive posts. If anyone thinks this is bullshit, I always say, go away from this topic, go to martingale discussion topic or some similar new-age mathematical system.

P.S. Yes, I'm not giving away my exact numbers or db's controlled randomness explanation. But I'm willing to talk about the ways of using found patterns, ways to control numbers, to read past, and know the future of spins. And I'm talking about Dublinbet's table one only. Every wheel is different. Every casino is different.

[husky]

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