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Started by buju, August 01, 2010, 07:46:53 PM

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pablos

What settings do you suggest ? I thought about adding new basic target and divisor when divisor should go down from 3 to 2 I mean the lowest divisor I allow is 3. That was my assumption when I was playing with target 12 and divisor 6. What do you think ? It would be ok ?

Number Six

Yes, that is what is recommended in the original divisor thread. However there are no real rules for the divisor, I mean there are no optimal settings. You can define the divisor and when to use the saftey brake according to your bankroll etc, in attempt to stop the bets spiralling out of control. You need to tinker with it yourself in order to find something that is acceptable. It must be said though that in a bad drawdown it becomes harder and harder to break even no matter what you do. These drawdowns are already built into the game and by using a fixed bet selection they are unavoidable. Technically it should be impossible to discover any bet selection that works with a progression.

pablos

Ok I understand. It must be adequate to the situation and my bankroll. Have to think about it.

GLC

Quote from: Number Six on August 08, 2010, 03:55:47 PM
Yes, that is what is recommended in the original divisor thread. However there are no real rules for the divisor, I mean there are no optimal settings. You can define the divisor and when to use the saftey brake according to your bankroll etc, in attempt to stop the bets spiralling out of control. You need to tinker with it yourself in order to find something that is acceptable. It must be said though that in a bad drawdown it becomes harder and harder to break even no matter what you do. These drawdowns are already built into the game and by using a fixed bet selection they are unavoidable. Technically it should be impossible to discover any bet selection that works with a progression.

I totally agree with Number Six.  The six point divisor is as good as any betting system because with the safety brake option, you can control your bet size.  The problem is the more you apply the safety brake, the longer it will take to finally reach your win target.  I have come to the conclusion that a bet selection that doesn't win with a flat bet, won't win in the long run with a progression.  Even the 6 point divisor.  It just appears to keep you ahead but only until things balance out.  The 6 point divisor's main value is that it helps keep your bets within your bankroll, so your losses don't add up so quickly.  But, it may take hours, days, weeks, etc... to finally get out of the hole.

In the long run it's not much different than just taking the loss and recovering through normal play.  It's like splitting the line with the cancellation betting method.  In a bad enough downturn, it can take forever to play out the split lines and finally come out on top.

Just my take on it,

GLAC

keel44

The 6 point divisor was intended for horse racing if I am not mistaken.  Where odds are all over the place.

pablos

I just made a calculator with safety break and I see that that bets are lower but total profit is lower as well. I made safety break when divisor would like to go down from 3 to 2 and then another target 12 is added and divisor 6 to present one. I am just after doing this and I did it on first version so divisor and target can not be changed but you can download it if you want.

target 12, divisor 6 (can't be changed), safety break at divisor lower than 3

nolinks://uploading.com/files/b9bm15m4/buju_lanky_sf3.xls/

I didn't check it for mistakes yet so be careful nad take a look first and do some tests

I made safety break depending on divisor size. I think it would be better to make it dpenending on bet size.

Anyone try to play this system yet except buju ?

Florin

Quote from: buju link=topic=16730. msg117116#msg117116 date=1280857549
It will be very helpful if someone do the excel program for this system and Contra D'Alembert (Positive D'Alembert).  please. . .   please. . . PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I wrote a script for roulette extreme several months ago, playing "normal" d'Alembert on RED/BLACK even chances, independently.
This system never won, no matter which spin sets I fed into the roulette extreme.  And the loss was much higher than 2. 7%.
I still don't understand why it never won. . .

pablos

Florin and did you maybe try to write some script for this system ?

Florin

No, it's today when I have read this thread and I'm not very fast in writing scripts.

pablos

I ask because any help would be appreciated. :) I am also not expert of excel but I wanted to add few more functions. I think that playing columns and dozens (I am working on it) in the same time it is a good idea but playing without safe break is dangerous even with target 6. I made some tests and when there is no safety break fluctuations of bankroll can be really high.

Like I supposed playing with safety break is better that without it but safety break depending on divisor value is not good either because lowest divisor 3 doesn't mean than bet can't be high. Sometimes bets go high. I don't know maybe changing it for 4 would change it some way but I think that best solution would be safety break depending on value of bet although firts test I made weren't a good as I thought.


I made calculator for betting in the same time on dozens and columns.

6 Divisor, 6 Target, no safety break

nolinks://uploading.com/files/22mdabdm/buju_lanky_dozens_6_6_dc2.xls/

here you insert numbers in column X on main page instead of C as it was in previous version

I tried to apply safety break like in 12/6 calculator but when I made test the results were terrible so I dont know if I made some mistakes or just this safety break caused this. I made some test on 1000 spins on the calculator above and graph looks nice going steadily up but sometimes sharp slumps can be really big. I think that sometimes safety break can cause bets even higher than without it. It is because without safety break stakes reset more often and when the safety break is applied then after one bad series stakes doesn't make it to reset before the second bad series come. I think that it is needed safety break depending on bet value or for example depending on loss value but so far I couldn't make it.



sarif

i cant download the file from the link provided keeps saying download limit reached which i never downloaded anything from the site

pablos

I don't know why. There is no any problem on my computer just have to wait some time before download but try this.

keel44

Are you suppose to reset back to your base bets when profit reaches new high point?  This program you made does not do this, but it is a good tool.

thanks

KEEL

pablos

Yes buju play this way I mean reset stakes whenever overall profit is reached. This calculator doesn't do this but you can simply remove all numbers and start all over again. So far I didn't figure out how to make reset automatic besides first I would like to apply some other functions. If you know how to do such a function any help would be appreciated :) If you use it to play note that there is no safety break in this calculator. Although target is only 6 stakes can go really high sometimes so be careful.


Here I applied 12 target, 6 divisor and divisor 3 safety break in calculator aboved.

nolinks://uploading.com/files/5385ace2/buju_lanky_dozens_12_6_dc2sf3.xls/

but as I wrote safety break divisor in present form isn't as good as it should be. Test it and tell me what are your opinions and outcomes.

sarif

can u attach the file instead please cant downtload from the link

sarif

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