STANDARD DEVIATION BEATING EUROPEAN ROULETTE WHEELS???

[medo]

Cubano,
Just can't grasp why 1-1-4/as testing it so far...many bets of 4 lose/--am also testing it 1-1-2,which brings better results.
Maybe there is a reason for it,but I can't see it.Any explanation.

[balint]

What about using other progression :


1
1
2    bet 1u
3    W   +2   bet next   2u
1
1
1
3
2    W  +6    bet next  3u
2
3
2    L    +3
1    W   +9   bet next 4u
1
3
3    L   +5
1    L   +1
1    L   -3    bet next 3u
1
2
1    L   -6
1    L   -9
2    L   -12  bet next 2u
2
1
2
1
2
1
1
2
3
3
3
1
2   W   -8   bet next 3u
1
3
3    L   -11
3    L   -14
2    W   -8  bet next  4u
3
3
1
2    W     0  bet next 5u
2
2
1
2    L   -5
2    L   -10
2    L   -15  bet next 4u
1
3
3    L   -19
2   W  -11   bet  next 5u
3
3
3
2
3    L   -16
1   W   -6    bet  next 6u
2
2
3
1    W   +6  bet next 7u
3
2
1   W   +20  bet next 8u
1
1
2
2   L   +12
1   L   +4
3   W   +20  bet next 9u
2
1
2    L   +11
1    L   +2
3    W   +20  bet  next 10u
2
1
1    L   +10
2    L       0
1    L    -10  bet  next  9u
1
2
2
1
3
3    L   -19
2    W   -1  bet next 10u
2
3
1    W   +19  bet next 11u
1
1
2
3    W   +41  

[maestro]

system is good,just use divisor tool wich you have on the forum with settings 0 safety break and target 12 and rules for the above system does it good. . 

[GLC]

Hi GLC!

Wow thanks for your contribution! From where exactly did you imported these numbers???

Cubano,

I got these spins from Win-Maxx.com.  They have a section on historic spins recorded off Weisbaden.  They should are from live table in Germany, single zero wheel.  Should be valid for testing purposes, definitely not RNG.

Thanks for correcting my method of play.  You're right, I forgot about the fact that if the 2nd dozen hits 1 or 2 spins after the 1st dozen, reduces the betting opportunities down to either 1 or 2.

I still like this system, and intend to continue learning with and from you.

Thanks,

George

[cubanopro]

Thanks to Cubano:method,answers to questions and explanations very clear,for most of members. . . . .
                    With YOUR PROGRESSION ,at least 100000 spins are necessary for  conclusions if your method is valid.
                    10000 spins are not enough.

Hi beretta28! Thank you very much for your kind compliments I appreciate it! Now concerning the necessary spins I would say that 1000 000 would be better (just in case). We're never too precautious :p! Now where could I find a fellow that could help code this??? I saw a section that says it's for coding but I don't know if someone down there would be willing to code this system.. It seems complicated to write (on the other hand it is very easy to apply).

[cubanopro]

DO YOU CONSIDER THE LAST TWO SPINS OF THE PREVIOUS FIVE SPINS CYCLE(DOZENS 2 AND 1),LIKE THE                   BEGINNING OF A NEW FIVE SPINS CYCLE AND YOU SHOULD PLAY 3RD DOZEN with 1,1,4 PROGRESSION or YOU CONSIDER CLOSED THE PREVIOUS CYCLE AND LOOK FOR NEXT SPINS BEFOREPLAYiNG?
In other words you play ONLY five spins blocks or you play on a rolling basis?
 .....................

I asked the same question....see the reply #11

Thanks for helping up man!

[cubanopro]

Cubano,
Just can't grasp why 1-1-4/as testing it so far...many bets of 4 lose/--am also testing it 1-1-2,which brings better results.
Maybe there is a reason for it,but I can't see it.Any explanation.

Hi Medo! Very good question! Well in fact like I said in my post I have only played for around 3000 spins...which in my opinion makes this system "a trial version". I still don't know if I could really beat the house on the long run with this since I haven't test it for 1000 000 spins. Now the reason I decided to play 1,1,4 is because I did a little table in excel to calculate how much I risk in comparison to how much I win (risk ratio). I noticed that the more I bet towards the end and the more I lower my exposure (risk ratio lower). But then again you are free to apply whichever technique you think could improve your game. After all I did post this here so that people could do whatever they wanted with this system. Someone asked me earlier what about stop losses and I showed how I calculated mine with the help of standard deviation but I also said that everyone should decide their own stop loss on their because not everybody has the same risk tolerance. That being said, if you believe your progression could improve your game I encourage you to use it.

Have a good day!  

[cubanopro]

What about using other progression :

1
1
2    bet 1u
3    W   +2   bet next   2u
1
1
1
3
2    W  +6    bet next  3u
2
...

Hi balint! Thanks for your interest! Like I say to others you are free to use whichever progression you would like...I think that I'm going to stay with mine until proven over 1000 000 spins that another is better. I also wanted to mention that in your example you did not follow my system rules... You have to separate all of your spins into little sequences of 5 spins. I would suggest you do like this:

1
1
2    bet 1u
3    W +2 bet nest 2 u
1

1
1
3    bet 2u
2    w +6 bet next 3u
2

In other words, you have to wait for the sequence of 5 spins to finish before betting again.
Good day my friend!

[medo]

Hi Medo! Very good question! Well in fact like I said in my post I have only played for around 3000 spins...which in my opinion makes this system "a trial version". I still don't know if I could really beat the house on the long run with this since I haven't test it for 1000 000 spins. Now the reason I decided to play 1,1,4 is because I did a little table in excel to calculate how much I risk in comparison to how much I win (risk ratio). I noticed that the more I bet towards the end and the more I lower my exposure (risk ratio lower). But then again you are free to apply whichever technique you think could improve your game. After all I did post this here so that people could do whatever they wanted with this system. Someone asked me earlier what about stop losses and I showed how I calculated mine with the help of standard deviation but I also said that everyone should decide their own stop loss on their because not everybody has the same risk tolerance. That being said, if you believe your progression could improve your game I encourage you to use it.

Have a good day!  

I like your approach about how you presented your method to others----
you can do as it suits you---the basic fundaments are same,idea is yours.........BUT.....
since I can smell great improvements in this method/I think am not alone/I suggest that
everybodys come out with what ever improvements they do.
---For instance instead of 1-1-4,my idea would be 1-1-2,for a start.There will be more.

[cubanopro]

system is good,just use divisor tool wich you have on the forum with settings 0 safety break and target 12 and rules for the above system does it good. .  

Hi maestro! I can't find the tool you're talking about... a little help?

[cubanopro]

Cubano,

I still like this system, and intend to continue learning with and from you.

Thanks,
George

Thanks man! It's always good to here good comments! Now we really need to focus on finding a person who can code this.

[cubanopro]

I like your approach about how you presented your method to others----
you can do as it suits you---the basic fundaments are same,idea is yours.........BUT.....
since I can smell great improvements in this method/I think am not alone/I suggest that
everybodys come out with what ever improvements they do.
---For instance instead of 1-1-4,my idea would be 1-1-2,for a start.There will be more.

Thanks for your comments! Man I like the attitude that people have towards my post... it's very constructive!   Now I must say concerning the progression, only once we code this system we will know which progression works better! Can someone please help us???

[medo]

--I don't believe you need so many spins for testing it.
--and you would be better of overthere/where you sending ppl.here/
  regarding coding of your method.

[rossco]

I have been testing with the following method and progression:

I start using the 1 1 4 progresion.  If I get a loss then I wait until the missing dozen reappears then I start tracking again.  When I am ready to bet again I use 2 2 8 until I get back to profit then I revert back to 1 1 4.  If I lose at this level I will follow the same procedure then start betting with a 3 3 12 progression until back in profit.  So far I haven't needed to go beyond this level and I usually return to profit fairly quickly.

Ross

[cubanopro]

--I don't believe you need so many spins for testing it.
--and you would be better of overthere/where you sending ppl.here/
 regarding coding of your method.

I don't understand the last sentence.. I would be better off overthere?? Where?

[cubanopro]

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