The 4Selecta system

[Panopticon]

Hey Mr Chips! First of all thank you for this system and the hard work. I took a look at it and decided it to give a shot in DB practice mode in order to see if I understand it and I will post it analytically so you can tell me if I made a mistake playing:

35   HG                     
8     HG
31   MG
8     HG
============

LG MG HG C
         1

HG: 8
MG:
LG:
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32  MG
31  MG
22  MG
14  MG
14  MG
9    HG         
29   LG          <--- HG is ahead so we bet 8, 29 comes and we lose
=============

LG MG HG C
          1  .1

HG: 8
MG:
LG: 29
=============

4  MG
8  HG
18 HG          <----Since C and HG all have 1, C is the last active so we bet missing LG, 29. 18 comes and we lose
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LG MG HG C
          1  .1
          2

HG: 8,18
MG:
LG: 29
=============

18 HG
4   MG
21  LG   <--- HG leads so we bet 8,18. 21 comes and we lose
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LG MG HG C
.1       1   1
          2  .2

HG: 8,18
MG:
LG: 29,21
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11 LG
18 HG
1  LG   <--- C last active so we must bet MG but MG has no numbers available, what do we do here? No bet??? I bet the next choice
                    HG 8,18   and lost
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LG MG HG C
1       1   1
..2      2   .2

HG: 8,18
MG:
LG: 29,21,1
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22 MG
8   HG   
3   LG    <---LG leads but there is no LG so we use C and bet 29,21,1. 3 comes and we lose
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LG MG HG C
1       1   1
.2      2    2
               3

HG: 8,18
MG:
LG: 29,21,1,3
=============

14 MG
5   MG
6   MG
33 MG
15 MG
21 LG
21 LG      <--- C leads so we bet the missing HG 8 and 18. 21 comes we lose
=============

LG MG HG C
1       1   1
.2       2   2
.3            3

HG: 8,18
MG:
LG: 29,[21],1,3
=============

25 HG
0
27 HG
36 HG
29 LG
12 LG      <--- LG last active so we bet 29,1,3 one unit and 21 two units, but again we lose as 12 comes
==============

LG MG HG C
1       1   1
.2       2   2
.3            3
4

HG: 8,18
MG:
LG: 29,[21],1,3,12
=============

23 MG
3   LG
35 HG  <--- LG lead so we bet 29,1,3,12 one unit and 21 two units and we lose as 35 comes
=============

LG MG HG C
1       1   1
.2       2   2
.3            3
4            .4

HG: 8,18,35
MG:
LG: 29,[21],1,3,12
=============

24 MG
21 LG
4  MG  <--- C last active we play 8,18,35 and we lose as 4 comes
==============

LG MG HG C
1   1  1   1
.2       2    2
.3            3
4            .4

HG: 8,18,35
MG: 4
LG: 29,[21],1,3,12
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11  LG
0
10  LG
36  HG
15  MG         <---We play 4 as C is last active and we lose as 15 comes
==============

LG MG HG C
1   1  1   1
2   .2  2    2
.3            3
4            .4

HG: 8,18,35
MG: 4,15
LG: 29,[21],1,3,12
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7   HG
16 HG
35 HG
17 HG
36 HG
20 LG
26 HG       <---We play 4,15 and we lose as 26 comes
==============

LG MG HG C
1   1  1   1
2   2  2    2
3     .3    3
4           .4

HG: 8,18,35,26
MG: 4,15
LG: 29,[21],1,3,12
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35 HG
35 HG
13 MG
8   HG         <---we play the last active, so 29,1,3,12 one unit and 21 two units and we lose as 8 comes
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-34 units in 61 spins up to here....

Regards!

[Mr Chips]

Panopticon,
 
Thanks for taking the trouble to understand this system, just a bit of practice and you will be a 4Selecta pro player
 
The only discrepancy I found was with The Table:
 
LG  MG  HG  C
1.          1   1
             2   2.
 
HG: 8, 18
MG:
LG: 29, 21
 
There are four available numbers and they must always agree with the Group sections in the Table, which here shows five. The 1 under LG is an error.
 
Up to spin 61 the Table should be as follows:
 
LG   MG   HG   C
1      1     1    1
(2)          2    2
3            3    3
              4    4
                    5
 
13 Group sections = 13 available numbers (including 8 & 21 two units each)
 
If you look further down a C result was placed under MG. I still make mistakes it's easily done, that's when you can do checks between selective spins and rectify errors and as the session progresses take stock of all the information that is available deciding on a good time to exit etc, which I have outlined previously.
 
Make sure you understand the 'active' Group section, which again I have explained in great detail in previous posts.
 
If you can supply the remaining numbers and a result I will examin it and help with any queries.
 
I hope your efforts to understand this system will be repaid in making steady long term profits.
 
Regards
 
Mr Chips
 

[Panopticon]

Thank you for your time Mr Chips,

you are right about that LG mistake, probably a copy paste error there  Yes it is easy to get confused!

I actually played about 70 spins and I think was like -45 units to that point and stopped so no point to continue with this session....

To tell you the truth I cannot understand what made you do this bet selection  and if there is something special about it:D

Anyway I will practice it a bit more to completely grasp it. Your test results are quite impressive of course.

Any chance you will post your EC method of yours you mentioned?? I would be very interested in that too

Best Regards!

[Mr Chips]

Panopticon,
 
Most results for this system are between 90 and 130 spins and when you have played through a few sessions then hopefully you will see the point.
 
My EC method is far more complex than 4Selecta It involves converting Red and Black into various symbols. I have used it successfully for a number of years. It really needs to be explained in a book, as there is a lot of material, but I have had to shelve this project for the present.
 
Regards
 
Mr Chips

[Natural9]

Wouldnt mind seeing your EC system  Mr Chips and would it be good for baccarat

Regards Rodney

[Mr Chips]

Rodney,
 
The EC method is too complex too explain here and my time will be taken up testing 4Selecta.
 
I'm not familiar with baccarat, just a fascination with roulette.
 
Regards
 
Mr Chips
 

 

[Natural9]

Rodney,
 
The EC method is too complex too explain here and my time will be taken up testing 4Selecta.
 
I'm not familiar with baccarat, just a fascination with roulette.
 
Regards
 
Mr Chips

Baccarat is EC and has lowest edge in the house beside blackjack played with perfect basic strategy

You can get 80 decisions an hour at times which is about one shoe

regards Rodney

 

 

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[Panopticon]

Hey Mr Chips,

well I tried a little longer session this time as you proposed, 111 spins in DB (fun mode). The final result was +186 units. I was +95 units at spin 30, and +152 units at spin 83.  Well in a real case scenario I would have thought quiting at spin 30, and I would sure quit at spin 83.

Made a total of 29 bets and won 5...This is impressive I think because I noticed that 3 of the winning numbers were the ones with more than one unit on them, and the 2 numbers with the single unit at the time I won, later in the game repeated... I do not know I this is luck or your method should work this way...It would be more obvious to expect single unit numbers to hit, as they are more in each bet...

Anyway just a question how do you deal with zero? I mean in the case that you are for example to place a bet with the available numbers of a group but zero appears. Do you bet again the same numbers or skip the bet? I think you would ignore zero and bet again....

Best regards!!

[TwoCatSam]

Panopticon

If you still have your Chart, did you have one Section that outdistanced the others?  Or two?  Were all four Sections about even? 

I'm trying to get a feel for when things are going wrong.  I'm sure that's the main difference between Mr. Chips win record and mine.  He knows when to get out and when to hold on for better things to come.

Sam

[Panopticon]

Hey Sam it looked something like that at the end:

H   M   L   C
..1   1   ...1   .1
...2   [2]   ..2   .2
...3   .3   ..3   [3]
...4   4   ..4   .4
...5   5   .5   ..5
...6   6   [.6]   ..6
..7   7   .7   
.8   [8]      
[9]         

HG kind of increased in the end, it was far behind most of the time.

Mr Spins has stated that when 3 of the groups are at level most of the time is not a good thing for the session.

[TwoCatSam]

Panopticon


Mr Spins has stated........Who?  Mr. Who?  Cracked me up early in the morning.

Yes, I recall that and I think that's the key to this system.  Reading the Charts correctly.

Thanks..

Samster

[Panopticon]

Oooooops! 

[Mr Chips]

Who is this Mr Spins, looks like an impostor
 
Panopticon,
 
A great result. I just checked the statistics and so far 72% of the results for this system ( I have included losses -50 range) have been between 90 to 130 spins. Getting good results early on in the session will persuade most people to exit and take a decent profit. In most cases that's probably a good decision. Having tested quite a few sessions now, as I mentioned to Sam, my take on this is, if the early wins are the result of one number then definitely exit. If it's the result of different numbers and single units then I would continue for a while and take just over half the original profit, if there were no further wins.
 
Usually zero's can be ignored unless they are on the betting line( the third Group of the section). The zero has to be present on that line as the bet is a loss, but of course  it's not noted in the Table or recorded in the list of available numbers.
 
Mr Chips
 

[Natural9]

Mr Chips Gidday mate

just a question on sessions. You talk about session being betwen 90 -130 spin which is 2 -3 hours playing time. If I wanted to go play another session do you pick another table or how do you do it

Regards Rodney

[Mr Chips]

Rodney,
 
A very interesting question.
 
I am fortunate here in the UK, especially in London as there are a great many casino's. I like to move around and would not play at the same Table twice in one day. I know many people will disagree with this and say it doesn't make any difference and maybe that's true, it comes down to my approach to the game and what works for me.
 
If I have a losing session, then I finish for that day and will go to a different casino the next day.
 
I think in any form of gambling you must have a good mental attitude and after all we are human and not machines and if moving to another Table or casino puts a person in a good frame of mind, a fresh start, I think it's a positive thing to do.
 
Don't ever play a session if your tired, it's important to concentrate, especially if your using a complex system.
 
Regards
 
Mr Chips
 

[Mr Chips]

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