The 4Selecta system

[TwoCatSam]

Don't you just love those straight columns???

Well, Mr. Chips, maybe what I was seeing there for a while, you saw with your loses.  I agree--it's the overall we're seeking.

Sam

[Mr Chips]

[table=,]
Date,spins,s/spins,+/-
13.2,96,24,+16
14.2,88,26,+228
15.2,91,22,+41
16.2,91,25,+64
17.2,94,25,+5
18.2,90,27,-35
19.2,91,24,-8
20.2,92,24,-22
 
22.8,91,25,+49
[/table]

[Mr Chips]

February 08 tests the hardest so far. In all areas of gambling there are highs and lows and the ability to control losses enabled 4Selecta to still show a profit. I have tested 113 sessions so far and the end of this month will complete 4 months.
 
[table=,]
Date,spins,s/spins,+/-
21.2,94,25,+100
22.2,96,25,-22
23.2,90,26,+25
24.2,75,23,-47
25.2,93,26,+22
26.2,126,36,-8
27.2,119,33,-32
28.2,90,25,-48
29.2,53,16,+55
[/table]
 
Jan  + 1031
Feb  +  480

Jul   + 1717
Aug
1-22 +1247
       ------
Total +4475 units
so far

[JCN221]

I just signed up and I think I might start testing the system (after I finish reading the questions asked in this thread). There are probably a few things I'm not clear on so if you don't mind (and have some spare time of course) you can answer some questions.

How many spins have you tested/taken to win 4475 units? Very impressive!

[Mr Chips]

Hi JCN,
 
Welcome to the forum.
 
In answer to your question 11,697 spins and from that 3220 selective spins.
 
There is a great deal of information about 4Selecta in this thread now and a number of detailed answers have been given, so it should provide you with everything you need to understand the system. I appreciate a number of people find it a headache and are unable to get their head round it, so if there is something in particular that you find difficult to grasp, I will go over it with you.
 
Regards
 
Mr Chips
 

[TwoCatSam]

What a ton of work..........

[Natural9]

12000 spins close to that about 300  hours in the casino  with over 4000 units in credit thats  nearly 15 units an hour

That is quite impressive and what I like bout it is it is selective in its bet selection

Is 12000 spins enough  to prove it a winner or not some systems can take longer to finally tank but im not sure that this will because of the way it selects it decisions

Keep up the good work all

Regards Rodney

[Mr Chips]

Rodney,
 
Thanks,I have still got 6 months of Spielbank sessions to do and the total test will be over 300 sessions. I have set a target of 10,000+ units and I will happy if it can reach that amount. I am going to spend the units on a long holiday[smiley=beer.gif]
 
Mr Chips

[Mr Chips]

[table=,]
Date,spins,s/spins,+/-
23.8,102,27,+12
24.8,91,27,+19
25.8,112,31,-28
26.8,92,25,+46
27.8,75,21,+103
28.8,124,35,-97
29.8,154,45,-24
30.8,92,26,-42
31.8,91,28,+82
[/table]
 
[table=,]
Month,Total units
Jan,1031
Feb, 480
July,1717
Aug,1318

Total,4546
[/table]

[MattyMattz]

Okay, I'm finally listening to Sam and am gonna test this bad boy out. 
Just ran my first test and results were very good, but I believe I found a mistake so I'm gonna re-run it. 

Will post results shortly (or after lunch).

Matt

[MattyMattz]

All,

I will be posting my results in the testing zone.  If there is already a post for this system in the testing zone, I will post it there, otherwise I will create a new thread. 

Mr. Chips - it'd be great if you could look it over to ensure I'm doing things correctly.  I believe I am and so far am very impressed. 

First session:
Spins: 103
End result: +133 units
Low: -45 units

(Remember - full posting of results are in the testing zone... or soon will be)

Cheers,
Matt

[ChickenDinner]

These are fantastic results guys; I can't wait to start testing this myself.

Good work Mr. Chips!

CD

[MattyMattz]

Hey gang,
I was "trying" to explain this system to Dong and Mills in the chat room today, and thought the conversation might be useful to others (plus I told Dong I would post it here).  Hopefully, I'm not leading them astray...


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[dongsongxanh] 1:52 pm: do u understand 4selector system?
[mills78] 1:52 pm: no i dont , matty is going to explain it to me
[dongsongxanh] 1:53 pm: me too, too confuse
[mills78] 1:53 pm: yeah , im very confused by it
[mattymattz] 1:54 pm: back guys, sry
[dongsongxanh] 1:54 pm: Hi Matt
[mills78] 1:54 pm: wb
[mattymattz] 1:55 pm: okay - back to the lessons...
[dongsongxanh] 1:55 pm: i have read your post in testing zone
[mattymattz] 1:55 pm: okay - each number is part of a group - either LG, MG or HG
[dongsongxanh] 1:55 pm: Matt, i also want to learn from you
[mattymattz] 1:56 pm: okay, np - do you both understand what numbers are part of each group?
[dongsongxanh] 1:56 pm: yeah, Matt
[mattymattz] 1:57 pm: mills?
[dongsongxanh] 1:57 pm: Mill, are you there?
[mattymattz] 1:58 pm: lets wait a minute for him Dong
[dongsongxanh] 1:58 pm: ok, Matt
[dongsongxanh] 1:59 pm: Matt, i've read 4selector system so many times, but i cant understand
[mills78] 1:59 pm: yeah im here sorry just on phone
[mills78] 2:00 pm: finished now
[mattymattz] 2:00 pm: that's okay Dong - I'll try and help you. I'm pretty sure I've a handle on it
[mills78] 2:00 pm: i understand what numbers form which group
[mattymattz] 2:00 pm: okay Mills (wb)
[mills78] 2:00 pm: thats the easy part
[mills78] 2:00 pm: cheers
[mattymattz] 2:01 pm: okay from here we need to qualify first... in my example we get 31,13,23,36,4
[mills78] 2:01 pm: yeah
[dongsongxanh] 2:01 pm: yeah
[mattymattz] 2:01 pm: so we get MG,MG,MG,HG,MG - with this we get a MG... I'll explain
[mattymattz] 2:02 pm: we need 2 different groups to get a qualifier. Our qualifier would be MG,MG,MG,HG - 2 diff. groups
[mills78] 2:03 pm: right
[dongsongxanh] 2:03 pm: ok Matt
[mattymattz] 2:05 pm: okay, but since this is our first spins, we have no numbers to bet, so we spin again and get another MG. Since our groups are MG,HG - and then MG again, MG has "won" and we get a MG. So put a 1 under the MG column and add that number spun (4) to the MG group.
[mattymattz] 2:07 pm: feel free to ask questions
[mills78] 2:08 pm: im lost lol
[mattymattz] 2:09 pm: lol - okay with MG,MG,MG,HG - we have a "battle" between MG and HG... got it?
[mills78] 2:09 pm: i knew my brain couldnt take it today
[mills78] 2:09 pm: why do we have a battle that mg is winning 3-1
[mattymattz] 2:10 pm: no, when we get back to back groups, we can ignore the first one, so MG, MG (ignore the 1st), MG (ignore the 2nd),HG... so we have 1 MG and 1 HG
[mills78] 2:11 pm: right , one on one, i got it
[dongsongxanh] 2:11 pm: i got it , Matt
[mattymattz] 2:12 pm: okay - so with MG,HG (ignoring the first 2 MG's) we have 3 possible outcomes:
[mills78] 2:12 pm: yeah
[mattymattz] 2:12 pm: 1-another MG comes and give MG a point (or win)
[mattymattz] 2:12 pm: 2-HG comes and give HG a point (or win)
[mattymattz] 2:12 pm: 3-LG comes and completes a "cycle" and gives CG (complete group) a point
[dongsongxanh] 2:12 pm: i got it
[mattymattz] 2:13 pm: okay - both with me?
[mills78] 2:14 pm: yep
[dongsongxanh] 2:14 pm: ok Matt
[mattymattz] 2:14 pm: okay - so what's our next number?
[mills78] 2:15 pm: 4
[mattymattz] 2:16 pm: 4 gives us another MG, so MG wins a point. Now we must add 1 to the MG column and add the 4 (number spun) to the MG group
[mills78] 2:16 pm: the next mg after the hg, im with you
[mills78] 2:16 pm: ok
[mills78] 2:16 pm: starting to make sense
[mattymattz] 2:17 pm: yep - you got it Mills
[mills78] 2:17 pm: and these numbers your adding to the group are ones we bet later?
[dongsongxanh] 2:17 pm: ok Matt
[mattymattz] 2:17 pm: okay so now we have a "leading group" (MG) since it has more points than any other group.
[mattymattz] 2:17 pm: Yes mills
[mills78] 2:17 pm: im getting this now
[dongsongxanh] 2:18 pm: i got it
[mills78] 2:18 pm: how far does it have to be in the lead before u bet it?
[mattymattz] 2:18 pm: one sec... phone
[mattymattz] 2:20 pm: back...
[mills78] 2:20 pm: wb
[mattymattz] 2:20 pm: a group doesn't necessarily need to be in the lead Mills... you'll see
[mills78] 2:20 pm: ok
[mattymattz] 2:21 pm: okay, so now we need another qualifier... our next 2 spins are 13 (MG) and 12 (LG)
[mattymattz] 2:21 pm: this is a qualifier since we have 2 groups
[mills78] 2:21 pm: so they battle now?
[mattymattz] 2:22 pm: right
[mattymattz] 2:22 pm: now, because we have a "leader" that is in the "battle" we bet it's numbers (which is only 4 right now)
[mills78] 2:23 pm: ah right, so when a leader is in battle we bet its numbers that we have
[mattymattz] 2:23 pm: right Mills
[mattymattz] 2:23 pm: of course - it gets more complicated
[mills78] 2:23 pm: #$%^&* , i thought i was being clever
[mattymattz] 2:24 pm: lol - you've got the main part though Mills - it goes on to explain how to pick a group when the leader isn't in the battle
[mills78] 2:24 pm: ah right
[mattymattz] 2:25 pm: thats pretty much it... just tracking is slow, and I need to find good exit points...
[mattymattz] 2:25 pm: Please keep in mind that I'm still learning this too - so I may be wrong
[mills78] 2:26 pm: im sure your right or close to it matty , and if your wwrong and its working then play it anyway lol
[mattymattz] 2:26 pm: lol
[mills78] 2:27 pm: is it something u are going to try for real?
[General Talk]: Wildcard has entered at 2:28 pm
[mattymattz] 2:28 pm: after a few more tests maybe
[Wildcard] 2:29 pm: G´Night gentlemen
[mattymattz] 2:29 pm: Hey WC
[mills78] 2:29 pm: well good luck when you do , hopefully it works well
[Wildcard] 2:29 pm: what´s cooking ?
[General Talk]: dongsongxanh has entered at 2:30 pm
[mattymattz] 2:30 pm: thanks bud
[Wildcard] 2:30 pm: hello dong
[mattymattz] 2:30 pm: just trying to explain the 4selecta to Dong and Mills
[dongsongxanh] 2:30 pm: Hi
[mills78] 2:30 pm: if it does i might have to invest some money next pay day
[dongsongxanh] 2:30 pm: internet in my country is so bad
[mattymattz] 2:32 pm: lol
[dongsongxanh] 2:32 pm: Matt, please help me
[dongsongxanh] 2:33 pm: please copy all your typings and send to my email kiemtien.kholam@yahoo.com
[dongsongxanh] 2:34 pm: i cant read what your typing
[mattymattz] 2:34 pm: actually Dong - I was going to post it in the forum - may be helpful to others
[dongsongxanh] 2:34 pm: ok thank you so much Matt

[Mr Chips]

Matt,
 
Thanks for posting that, hopefully it will enable more people to get a handle on it.
 
I thought for a moment I was getting confused with all the 'battles' taking place
 
Mr Chips

[MattyMattz]

Thanks Mr. Chips...

just my interpretation of it (the battles).  As long as I understand it right and can teach the proper way, I guess it doesn't matter what I call it

Great work!
Matt

[MattyMattz]

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