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The 4Selecta system

Started by Mr Chips, July 29, 2008, 12:17:33 PM

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TwoCatSam

This kept me up last night.............

OK, we have

MG
LG

Forget the system for a moment please.  In the above we could get an MG Section or an LG or a CG depending on which number came next and what group it belonged to, right?  OK...

There are two chances it WON'T be a CG vs ONE that it will.  So how is it that CG sometimes outruns the pack/wins the "battle"?  Seems that CG is beating the odds.

When I first began this system, I thought to myself....bet you get darn few CG Sections.  Wrong...

Perhaps I'm just viewing an oddity, but I thought I'd mention it.

Sam

MattyMattz

Hey Sam,
good point but you also need to point out that each other option (LG or MG) also has only 1 chance to to make it vs. 2 chances that it won't, so really, every options would be equal chances - no?

MM

TwoCatSam

Matt

Perhaps Mr. Chips will pop in on this one. 

I see this as a "double-advantage" system in this way:  First, we are "pulling" for the Section that's in the lead.  For me, I want it far in the lead.  Second, we are using the numbers already used to make that Section.  Example:  We have an LG Section far in the lead and lots of L numbers have hit to get it there.  We have a hot Section and we are playing for repeating numbers.  I think this is what makes this thing work.

But with the CG, it can have gotten ahead by any combination of numbers hitting, not just "pure" numbers from a Section.

I am sure withholding judgment, but it "seems" that when CG far outstrips the pack, I better move with caution.

Sam

By the way, I do see you point.  Could be I'm just looking at it wrong.  I'm not a "math boy" by any means!!  LOL

MattyMattz

Hmmm, very interesting point Sam.

I agree.  I've seen more "problems" when CG runs away with a lead, and you explanation makes sense.  Although I have good runs with CG as well.

MM

Mr Chips

Sam,
 
I wouldn't want 4Selecta to turn you into an insomniac :-\
 
[table=,]
LG,MG,HG,C
1,2,E,1
E,3,2,E
3,E,3,3
,E,E,4
,,5,4
,,E,6
,,E,7
,,,8
,,,9
,,,10
,,,11
,,,E
,,,E
,,,14
,,,15
,,,16
,,,E
,,,18
,,,19
,,,20
,,,21
,,,22
[/table]
 
This is taken from February testing and shows the final section group in the lead at the point of exit. The E denotes two or more section groups were Equal in the Table.
 
CG has a double edged sword as you will have discovered. It can work in your favour as it's flexibility of being able to have various group numbers to complete a section and on the otherhand you cannot switch from a C leader e.g. if LG is in the lead and you cannot make an LG section you can go to the next in the lead, but only at the start of a session can you do this with CG and as soon as there are available numbers that ends.
 
Perhaps a maths person can give the definitive answer as to why CG is predominently in the lead, we have a number around at the present time ::)
 
Mr Chips
 


TwoCatSam

Mr. Chips

Sorry for always posting the wrong name for your system.  I should have told you I am slightly dyslexic, have a bit of ADD and o/c disorder!  Sure, you would have loved to work with me then!! LOL

Roulette in general keeps me up at night, but your system has had it's fair turn.

As you may have read, I plan to test this puppy over 5,000 spins in September.  I should know something by then.

Sam

Jakkalsdraai

 ;D I had those same problems TCS......nothing that couple of Johny Walker Black Labels doesn't solve..... >:D

TwoCatSam

jak

Yep, that would help! 

But I have a little pill when things get really bad.  And ear plugs.  And a mask.

My wife is nocturnal!

Sam














MattyMattz

Quote from: Jakkalsdraai on September 03, 2008, 12:44:48 PM
;D I had those same problems TCS......nothing that couple of Johny Walker Black Labels doesn't solve..... >:D

Hey Jakk - you sure it's not the JW causing the problems?!?!? LOL  :o

Lohnro

Quote from: Mr Chips on July 29, 2008, 12:17:33 PMThe Lower Group (LG)
-----------------
1, 2, 3
10,11,12
19,20,21
28,29,30
 
The Middle Group (MG)
-----------------
4, 5, 6
13,14,15
22,23,24
31,32,33
 
The Higher Group (HG)
-----------------
7, 8, 9
16,17,18
25,26,27
34,35,36

Hey Mr Chips,

Is there a reason you chose these groups instead of using dozens?

Jakkalsdraai

 ;D Naaaahhh Matty mate, could never be Johny's fault! Could be anything......but not Walker Johny......


Mr Chips

Lohnro,
 
The Groups are used to form sections. The numbers of course come from all areas of the layout and are not dependent on a particular column or dozen.
 
I have used the Groups to form sections for an EC method and had high expectation that 4Selecta would equally produce good results.
 
Mr Chips

Mr Chips

[table=,]
Date,spins,select spins,+/-
1.3,124,36,-35
2.3,85,23,+79
3.3,77,25,+140
4.3,90,25,-65
5.3,103,29,+40
6.3,104,31,-3
7.3,111,32,+30
8.3,92,26,+22
9.3,53,15,+90
10.3,113,32,+51
11.3,93,28,-26
12.3,89,24,+22
13.3,68,17,+46
14.3,89,24,+23
,,,
,,,+543
,,,-129
Total,,,+414
[/table]

JCN221

Thanks for all the hard work Mr. Chips I've played 5 RNG sessions so far following all the rules and I'm at +59 units. I'll continue testing and update you with my progress.

RouletteBR

Hi fellas,

I'm new at this forum, i'm trying to understand how this system works, i have tested it at dublinbet, but i don't know if a made it correct, here is my session:



I appreciate any help.

Regards.

RouletteBR

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