The 4Selecta system

[TwoCatSam]

Perhaps we have a failure to parse words or some such, as I'm lost on one issue?

26 HG   ignore
26 HG
21 LG
28 LG
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"At this stage the only number available is 28 and so we want an LG number to come in and it must be 28."

ME:  I read you saying this: "We have a LG and the last number is 28, an LG number, and we want an LG number."  So, do we bet on the 28, I mean, place a chip or not.  If not, why not?  If you were standing at the table, you would not/could not know what the next group is.

Then you write: "You cannot bet on the first section as you do not have any numbers available. All numbers will come from the third Group in the section. In this section the third Group number is 28." 

ME:  Why don't you bet on the 28?  Why do you say you have no numbers available?

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

TO THE GANG

708 of you birds have popped in for a look-see and not one question except for me.  Is it:

1.  You all understand it and I'm the only doofus?
2.  I'm asking all the proper questions and you're just reading and studying, or
3.  What?

If someone sees some of the things Mr. Chips is talking about that I am too thick to grasp, well, jump and in give me your take on it.  Then he may have two blokes to correct instead of one.

Sam

[Mr Chips]

Sam,
 
That last post of yours had me in stiches. I'm still laughing 
 
Sam, while your asking me all these questions hundreds of guys are making a fortune from this system 
 
Back to your questions.
 
The first section will produce the first number, it can't come from anywhere else. It produced the number 28 and as you correctly say it is an LG. You know that we will record this in the Table and note it under the L Group in the Table. This is now the 'active' Group and therefore a bet will be placed if possible for the next section.
 
29 LG
24 MG
 
Sure enough this next section has an LG and therefore we can bet the number 28. The number 24 came in instead and so the bet loses.

29 LG
24 MG
24 MG
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[TwoCatSam]

Mr. Chips

I just want to join that throng at the table.  We are close!  Please bear with me.

OK, you wrote, and I color red the parts I simply don't get.

The first section will produce the first number, it can't come from anywhere else. It produced the number 28 and as you correctly say it is an LG. You know that we will record this in the Table and note it under the L Group in the Table. This is now the 'active' Group and therefore a bet will be placed if possible for the next section.

29 LG
24 MG

Sure enough this next section has an LG and therefore we can bet the number 28. The number 24 came in instead and so the bet loses.

29 LG
24 MG
24 MG

Are you saying you must wait for two groups when you first start the trot?  And if your bet is to be on LG you must have an LG in the next group?

We now have six numbers in this little trot; do we bet?

Sam

[Mr Chips]

Sam,

It took me several years to work out my EC method and I am using the basic concept for this system. I admit I am struggling to explain this in a much more coherent way, so apologies if you and others do not understand it. I will try to answer your last question in a different way.
 
Question 1 "if possible"
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29 LG
24 MG
24 MG
 
Just supposing instead of the above numbers we had :
 
17 HG
14 MG
 
There is no LG in the first or second Group of this section, so it is impossible for this section to be an LG section. Do you agree?
 
It could however become a C section. Do you agree?
 
I will try and breakdown your question into parts in the hope that you agree to the various parts and then the whole picture makes sense.
 

[TwoCatSam]

Mr. Chips........

"17 HG
14 MG

There is no LG in the first or second Group of this section, so it is impossible for this section to be an LG section. Do you agree?

It could however become a C section. Do you agree?"

OK, I agree.  If an LG number comes next, it would be a complete section. As soon as a section forms, you don't keep looking. 



Now, hoping this question does not muddy the water, I assume that if another HG came we would have an HG section; if another MG came we would have an MG section.  Is that correct?

Sam

[Mr Chips]

Sam,
 
I think you've got it. I should point out in case there is any confusion you said "If an LG number comes next, it would be a complete Group. As soon as a Group forms, you don't keep looking'.
 
If an LG comes next, it would be a Complete SECTION ( three Groups to a section)
 
As soon as a section has three Groups, then go onto the next session eg
 
17 HG  ignore
16 HG  ignore
25  HG  the first Group of the section
13 MG  the second Group of the section
    At this stage place a bet. Suppose numbers 34 and 9 are available and the 'active' Group in the Table is HG. OK the bet is 34 and 9
     both HG numbers, 9 comes in and wins
9 HG
------ This HG section is finished, move on to the next one
 
14 MG  the first Group in the section
21 LG   the second Group in the section
         At this stage place a bet. Only numbers 34 and [9] are available. Even though HG is the 'active' Group it is impossible to have an
        HG section. This section contains MG and LG. It is possible to have a C section. 9 comes in and wins.
9 HG
----- This C section is finished, move on to the next one etc etc etc
 
I hope this helps

Richard


 

 

[TwoCatSam]

Mr. Chips

I thought I had it, but I think I've lost it.  Let me ask this:

Sam,

I think you've got it. I should point out in case there is any confusion you said "If an LG number comes next, it would be a complete Group. As soon as a Group forms, you don't keep looking'.

If an LG comes next, it would be a Complete SECTION ( three Groups to a section)

As soon as a section has three Groups, then go onto the next session eg

17 HG  ignore
16 HG  ignore
25  HG  the first Group of the section
13 MG  the second Group of the section
    At this stage place a bet. Suppose numbers 34 and 9 are available and the 'active' Group in the Table is HG. OK the bet is 34 and 9
     both HG numbers, 9 comes in and wins

I was under the impression you needed a complete section.  If you ignore the first two HGs, you only have HG and MG


9 HG
------ This HG section is finished, move on to the next one

When you say a section is "finished" does that mean I should not consider any number except the next number to come?  All numbers my eyes have fallen on are now discarded? 

I am going to post something I am thinking next.  Maybe right; maybe wrong.

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

Mr. Chips

Let me put something in my own words and you see if I'm in the ball park.

We have

1LG
5MG  <---This is an LG Section.  (I hope!)
1LG

We have just started the trot and we have the number 1 in our corral of betable numbers.

NOW WE WAIT.......

We have

34HG
32MG<-------This is a betable Section as an LG, our number 1, would complete it.  We also could complete it with either a HG or another MG but we don't have those numbers available to us; only the 1LG.  OR must it be only an LG as the prior section was an LG?

I think it just dawned on me.  I am looking for whatever is dominant in my chart!

Is that the way it shakes out?

Sam

[bjb007]

As one of the hundreds of "just looking" people
I think I should say why.

Don't believe that this, or any other system,
could be as difficult to understand as this
one.

Clearly the fault is in the explanation.

There must be a simple, clear way to set this out
so that it could be understood after one or
two readings.

Keep at it Sam.  When you understand it perhaps
you'll explain it for the rest of us.

[TwoCatSam]

"That which we obtain too easily we cherish too lightly."  Something like that.

If I ever get this, and I will if Mr. Chips hangs on a couple more days, I will have worked a bit for it and I will cherish it.  I believe this man when he says hundreds of people are making thousands of dollars from it.

I seriously doubt I could reword his post and improve on it.  It's just a difficult thing to grasp.

(Hoping I'm still married when this is over!!)

Sam

[Clothdog]

I agree with bjb. I understand alot of systems pretty easily, but this one.....forget it. I've read and reread and it seems to be going in circles. There has to be an easier easier solution playing this. We're not morons here. But if we're having trouble understanding this than Mr. Chips needs a better explanation.
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[TwoCatSam]

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I'm starting to get it.  I have put about 20-25 hours into this, however.  But, then, I'm retired and I can do this.  I understand how people with limited time would become frustrated.

Sam

[bloomone2002]

I guess, I'm one of those very casual observers on this one. Im pulling for Sam and hang in there Mr. Chips with the explaination. Maybe, Sam you will be able to simplified it for others in one or two replies once you have it nailed now.  Hopefully, it proves to have staying power as a system.
Good Luck
Bloom

[Mr Chips]

Sam,
 
Yes, you have got it. It will take a bit of practice, then it will all click into place.
 
It took me a very long time to work out the concept of this type of system, it is complex, I know I am stating the obvious. It was designed to overcome the negative expectancy in the game of roulette. A great deal of testing must be done before we know if this has been achieved.
 
I am certain there will be better ways to explain it, but what's in my head has been explained here and its the way I see it. Hopefully Sam you will find an easier explanation.
 
If you go back to the example I gave at the very beginning you should be able now to work through it and I will clarify anything that is difficult to understand.

[Mr Chips]

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