Kingspins "Lucky Horse shoes" great winners.

[Kingspin]

Hi bird hands I hope your birds are doing fine

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This is a new progression , the other one was too slow and boring even though it works well.

Been playing for hours now and can see the original  progression is the problem. too slow.

I am starting playing it right now and will report back tomorrow.

Bird hands your insane playing rng mate - the thing has a mind of it's own -be warned!

[birdhands]

What can I do?  It's RNG or nothing.  Well I guess I could play a live online wheel but it's american 00 and has a $5 minimum.

Is this new progression sliding?

[Kingspin]

2 ways to play this new progression 1 is sliding up and down the other is different , the other method is we start out at the first leg of the progression and the play right till the end no moving backwards , win or lose every bet you work along the progression till a profit then you go back to first step , if no profit your in the progression to the end!  
This progression is 1 worth trying 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 3 3  4 4 4 5 5 5 6 6 6 7 7 7 8 8 8 9 9 9 10 10 10.10. try this one sliding should in theory be less boring.

[birdhands]

So this one:  111,2222,333,444...etc is the one that you play straight through to the end?
Or are you saying 1112323433.....can be played straight through?

Sam

[birdhands]

I'm not really worried about being bored; in fact, I think it's impossible to be bored when real money is at stake.  I just want to get in and get back out with $50 asap (especially on the rng).

It seems to me there's a big difference between winning a street and a split, and again between a split (12 and 30) and a street/split (9,18,21,27), and then there's the 0.

So the winnings are:
street- +1
split- +7
street/split- +18
0- +25

I'm thinking the progression should reflect these values.  Ie. we move further back if we hit a 27 than we do if we hit a 3.
To be honest, my math skills get tired right about here, so I'm hoping someone will step in and do whatever computations will give us the least risk/greatest profit progression.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: This system rocks!

Ps.  Up another $100 today.

Sam

[Kingspin]

111,2222,333,444...etc or  1112323433 are experimental at the moment birdhands to be honest i have not spent much time testing them but yes the idea is to bet straight through until profit then reset back to beginning, maybe worth a test on fun play tonight i will try some different progressions and report back.

[Twister43]

I'm not really worried about being bored; in fact, I think it's impossible to be bored when real money is at stake.   I just want to get in and get back out with $50 asap (especially on the rng).

It seems to me there's a big difference between winning a street and a split, and again between a split (12 and 30) and a street/split (9,18,21,27), and then there's the 0.

So the winnings are:
street- +1
split- +7
street/split- +18
0- +25

I'm thinking the progression should reflect these values.   Ie.  we move further back if we hit a 27 than we do if we hit a 3.
To be honest, my math skills get tired right about here, so I'm hoping someone will step in and do whatever computations will give us the least risk/greatest profit progression.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: This system rocks!

Ps.   Up another $100 today.

Sam

Just out of interest what unit size do you use? has it been working well on rng?

[Kingspin]

Twister on "fun" rng games I have seen  some good wins and big wins too. I suspect on real play rng that this system will fail bad.  I got hammered at mecca casino the other day , I put in £25 and started risky with 20p chips I went from £25 to £31 then got hammered fast , the rng lit up all un betted spots which is what rng does on real play.  My opinion is that on an honest rng if there is such a thing then we could get some wins worth having.

Bird hands is maybe been lucky at the moment , I have played for extremely long sessions like 14 hour sessions with this method and seem to get draw downs when 0 sleeps long time and when the splits sleep. ALso when the game goes mostly black draw down comes, getting back up to profit can take forever on a real wheel. You can be up 260 chips easily then hit a draw down of 300 chips easily.

1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 3 3  4 4 4 5 5 5 6 6 6 7 7 7 8 8 8 9 9 9 10 10 10.10. This is a progression worth trying on the sliding progression , furthest I got to so far is the underlined 7


Super Lucky horse shoe :- 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 3 3  4 4 4 5 5 5 6 6 6 7 7 7 8 8 8 9 9 9 10 10 10.10  PLay the same bets as lucky horse shoe but add splits 10/11 and 29/32 and use this  sliding progression. On a loss forward 1 number on a win back 1 number , on a break even go back 1 number Nice winner this one.

[birdhands]

I play $1 units on rng.  I've won $300 in six sessions so far.

I'm thinking a way to beat the crooked rng would be to play 1 unit on all numbers, 2 on 0, and the rest normal lucky horse shoe, that way there are no unlit numbers for the rng to go for.  It loses 1 unit per spin, but that's a low price to pay for fairness.  What do you all think?

[Kingspin]

Thats a clever way to maybe confuse the rng nice one

Try the super horse I just posted , this seems to be a good bet provided we don't get greedy, win 50 chips should be not much of a problem and the progression is good as I have tested it , just tried it on mecca casino and made 80 .chips , same bets as "lucky horse shoe" but 2 splits added. adds a bit of magic..  

Regarding adjusting the progression moves as to which bet wins is an interesting thought , I will work some thing out that I think may be suitable.  
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Just made £200 with the super horse shoe playing the above progression.  

[GLC]

Hey guys,

I had a thought the other day and have been testing it on the 3/2 system with decent results.
Since I lose 5 units for each loss, I set my betting scale up as follows:
1111222233334444555566667777etc...  (Remember a 1 actually represents 5 units (3 & 2) so a 2 would represent 6/4, 3 = 9/6 etc..)  Note that I only use 4 of each level instead of 5.  The fewer numbers of each level, the more aggressive the bet line.  We could use 5 or even 6 or more but that gets to be a real grind.

Whenever I lose, I move 5 steps to the right.  whenever I win I move 1 step to the left.  This has always ended up with a profit.  Although I have only tried it a couple of times.  Of course, if I lose again before reaching the first 1, I move 5 steps to the right from wherever I was on the bet line.  A few losses close together can move us down the line a ways, but a good streak of wins can get us back as well.  I don't have to go all the way back to the first 1 in the bet line, if I reach a good plus amount at any time, I can call it a day or take my win and reset back to the first 1.

Using your system (latest version of 12 units) we could use a bet line of 111111111122222222223333333333etc...

On a loss, move 12 steps to the right and on a win move 1 step to the left.  This is based on a 3 number line hitting.  If a zero, split, or combo hits, we should move a corresponding number of steps to the left to reflect the number of units won.

If ten numbers at each level is too slow, make it 8 numbers, but always move 12 numbers to the right on a loss that way there's always a win when you get back to the 1st 1.

George

P.S.  I just realized that with the 2 extra splits, a street hit doesn't result in a win, but a loss of 1 unit.  I think the above idea is still valid, it'll just have to be tweaked to fit this system.  Maybe the original version will work better with this bet line idea.   Cheers

[birdhands]

guys,


P.S.  I just realized that with the 2 extra splits, a street hit doesn't result in a win, but a loss of 1 unit.  I think the above idea is still valid, it'll just have to be tweaked to fit this system.  Maybe the original version will work better with this bet line idea.  

Actually a street hit breaks even.
I'm interested in your idea, but don't totally get it yet.
How to figure a "corresponding number of steps to the left" is where I'm stuck.

Sam

[GLC]

Actually a street hit breaks even.
I'm interested in your idea, but don't totally get it yet.
How to figure a "corresponding number of steps to the left" is where I'm stuck.

Sam

Sam,

Let's use his original bet of ten units.
11111111222222223333333344444444555555556666666677777777

If we lose at first 1 unit bet, we move 10 steps to the right which puts us at 3rd 2 unit bet.
If we win on a street 3 times, we will be at the 8th 1 unit bet.
If we lose this bet we move 10 steps to the right which puts us at the second 3 unit bet.
If we win on a street, we move 1 step to the left.
If we win on a split, we move 7 steps to the left .
If we win on a st/split, we move 18 steps or in this case back to the 1st 1 unit bet
Same as above for 0 hit.

After working out the payoffs, this is probably too aggressive of a bet line.
I tested this bet line briefly on this system before going to bed and kept winning a lot-quickly because I was hitting the higher paying bets.
The bet line idea was based on the 3/2 system which loses 5 or wins 1 or multiples thereof .
It appears to be a little more complicated with this system. 
It does work just fine, but maybe 10 bets at each level as if you're playing for street wins only and if you hit one of the higher paying bets, it's a bonus and should complete the line or move it back quite a ways.

I don't know how to play it the best.
I just know that this idea of jumping forward and then working your way back down the line works.
Obviously tweaking is necessary.

I may get back to this later.

LOL,

George

[birdhands]

I like your idea and I'll work with it when I get a chance.  Right now it's thanksgiving here.
I'm not sure I would move at all on a hit street, since it's just breaking even.

Sam

[GLC]

I like your idea and I'll work with it when I get a chance.  Right now it's thanksgiving here.
I'm not sure I would move at all on a hit street, since it's just breaking even.

Sam

I agree with you.  But if you use the 10 units bet original method each street hit is +1.

His new 12 units bet method is a little harder to decide what to do.

Happy Thanksgiving,

George

[GLC]

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