Kingspins "Lucky Horse shoes" great winners.

[Twister43]

Okay super shoe looks okay  but what I'm doing when its breaking even I'm not shifting along the sequence just staying, playing RNG with £ started 600 units got to 700+ units with still 4 slides downwards to go.  But I can understand that it can get boring and playing live wheels can drag thats why you should try and have a 15 min break for every 100 units made when playing online stretch your legs   

[Kingspin]

Yes stay at the same leg on a break even win , this works much better , just made another £190 today with the super horse shoe which is my best winner system.

[GLC]

Thanks for ignoring my great bet method.

After much more testing, I am finally getting a more realistic picture and it ain't pretty unless you like looking up from a hole about a mile deep.

Cheers,

George

[Kingspin]

So it's a loser then glc ,    Your progression or the complete system , which are you refer to mate.
My tests using 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 3 3  4 4 4 5 5 5 6 6 6 7 7 7 8 8 8 9 9 9 10 10 10.10  1 step Forward on a loss and 1 back on a win stay at same on break even (super horse shoe) seem to be as good a method as possible.

Back to the drawing board  

[GLC]

So it's a loser then glc ,    Your progression or the complete system , which are you refer to mate.
My tests using 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 3 3  4 4 4 5 5 5 6 6 6 7 7 7 8 8 8 9 9 9 10 10 10.10  1 step Forward on a loss and 1 back on a win seem to be as good a method as possible.

Back to the drawing board  

Sorry I wasn't clear.

My bet system is the loser.  Takes us too deep in the hole when we get a series of losers close together.

I like your system.  I was just trying a little different bet method.

BTW, I never declare someone's system a loser.  They all win and lose.  The question is"can you play so as to take advantage of the wins and minimize the losses?"

Even my progression wins sometimes.  It''s just not as steady as I like.

GLC

[Kingspin]

Thanks glc and sorry for ignoring you mate i was busy but would always reply to your posts.

The thing with this is system is that we can win at least some money virtually every time we go to start a game at the table. , what kills us is when we get greedy and play for extended sessions , this is where we could meet a progression and have to follow it much furthur than is comfortable which is where it's risky.

Greed is the only way we loose.

[robert]

Hi Kingspin,

I tried your "Super Lucky Horse Shoe" for real money.   It worked very well.   I hit the first step of level 2 only 3-4 times.   I followed your recommendation, so I didn't play too long, but I managed to make 120 units profit.   That's great.   I think it is a good idea to jump from casino to casino, and to stay a minimum time in each.  .  .  make your target profit, and move on.   
Thank you. 

Robert

[birdhands]

OK, let me start by saying that I am not a math whiz, but I have some ideas.

I think the Super Horse is mathematically inferior to the original Lucky Horse Shoe and here's why:

The original makes $2 on every street hit; the Super breaks even, but makes $6 on four extra numbers.  So looking at the relative benefits and drawbacks we have:
Super offers an extra $24 ($6 x 4 numbers) while sacrificing the 18 street number profits
But the Original offers  $36 ($2 x 18 numbers) while sacrificing the 10, 11, 29, and 32

I'm not sure about this because I think the math is probably complex.  Maybe someone with a bigger brain could help.

I've been winning consistently with both, but I want to make the best choice here.

Also, I am definitely not moving on the progression with a street hit, although with the Original I might move back one step for every 5 street wins.

Thanks GLC for your efforts.

Sam

[Kingspin]

I have been doing a lot of testing over the last few days, especially I have been trying it out over thousands of spins, one thing for sure is that the progression should never be played past the 3's. From what I see you would be the luckiest person on the planet to recover losses past the 3's on the progression and if attempting to do so you will see losses that are way too bad.  I have seen a lot of recovery's up to or around the the last of the 3's. Any decent hits in the 3's can bring you to break even or small loss or even slight profit but no way should it be played past the 3's. so the progression I would play is 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3. Take the loss if your progression busts. This is for the original horse shoe . So basically if you have had a bad session and are into the 3s on the progression and you get some nice hits that take you back up close to your start balance then reset back to the first 1 in the progression and re start! then don't  push your luck by holding the 3's because if you do it often can make it hard work to recover your losses. GLC  Thanks for your posts I am leaving this system alone now and leave you guys to try it.

[birdhands]

OK  So that's a 200 unit bankroll.  If we lose the 200, we take a walk and come back later. 

[birdhands]

I just played the original horse shoe, $1 bets, 111,2222,3333, sliding progression, forward on a loss, back on a win, hold on a street win until I accumulate 5 of them, then back one step.  Terrible numbers, but still finished one session up $50 and the other up $30.  Maybe 150 spins total.

Who else is playing real money RNG?

Sam

[Twister43]

I just played the original horse shoe, $1 bets, 111,2222,3333, sliding progression, forward on a loss, back on a win, hold on a street win until I accumulate 5 of them, then back one step.   Terrible numbers, but still finished one session up $50 and the other up $30.   Maybe 150 spins total.

Who else is playing real money RNG?

Sam

I gave it a whirl with a with rng with £7 I had left from a bonus with William Hill I used 10p units and it went well got up to 23 however it got eaten up.  rng just isn't friendly haha.  Having said that I think the super horse shoe might work with rng as their are 12 numbers you loose on 11 you win and the rest you break even on unless rng knows what amount are on the bets you'd be pretty unlucky to hit say 10 out of the 12 in a row.

[birdhands]

Twister,
  That doesn't really make sense to me.  If the RNG is going to hit unbet numbers and force losses, why would betting on a few extra numbers make a difference?  Did you read my post on the Original vs. the Super?  Or the one about how to outsmart a rigged RNG by betting all numbers?
  Frankly I don't think the RNG is rigged. 

Sam

[Twister43]

The thing I've found with RNG is that it just tends to screw you over the longer you play it.  I agree with trying to outsmart the rigged RNG but don't think betting on all numbers is needed just giving the RNG less options on numbers that will result in a loss.  How ever we all know dozens can sleep for a long period of time whether its RNG or a live wheel.  I like the super horse shoe its not 50/50 on a win/loss but it works well.

Edit: I came within 12 units of busting with the super horse shoe got to the last 8 in the progression, basically I'd done a few runs and every 100 made I'd stop. So I started got to 1200 unit and thought I'd push for another 100 after a break so started and was shocked at how it got out of hand   but it got back up to 1200 and left it (was betting 5 units on each bet selection) so glad that was on RNG fun play and not real money  

Edit2: Okay I busted with super horse shoe on the first 9 sequence as I didn't have what was re-queried to carry on. I think the reason why was I wasn't sliding down on a break even like I stated before, the first few times I did this it yielded a quick prophet gain but I think it will screw you over  if you get to many loses .

Edit3: beggars belief gone straight to 5 in the sequence without a single win ouch.

[Kingspin]

So you have quit with the method then twister43  

Always walk away with the profit and don't push your luck, most I have seen is 6 straight losses with out wins  until last of 2's and winning it back in the 3's.

Like I said before if you sit playing 24 hours a day you eventually see bad session   where you lose all your profits and more.

I will give you an example of what happened to me on a recent full day playing at wiliam hill casino club, i start out with a £300 bankroll playing 50p chips i played all day and was up  by £125  profit , eventually i so a bad game and lost the £125 plus an additional £20 , i carried on playing and eventually got to break even , so i had played all day for nothing.

[Kingspin]

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