How to Play With the Truth Bomb

[gizmotron]

Gizmo,

If this   Turbo Genius   cat  got himself " under  contract" with the TAJ for allegedly  selling them a system then why not  selling a system   to 4 casinos   ?.

Nathan Detroit

Nathan, I don't feature walking into a casino and listening to their skepticism. I would have to tell them to sell them. Just let the throng tell them. It all comes out the same. Have you ever heard of a casino paying to keep a secret a  secret?

[Nathan Detroit]

*********Have you ever heard of a casino paying to keep a secret a  secret?******

That will be the day.




N.D.

[Mike]

So what is the mathematical formula for when a trend will occur and how long it will continue? You can produce a long term average but you can't produce a result for coincidences that come and go during recent encounters.

Neither can you. Believing that you can (whether you choose to call it a "formula" or not) is called the gambler's fallacy.

Each outcome is equally likely and independent of the last. It's so simple. Stop trying to confuse people with gibberish.

Try saying 100 times every day: "past spins do not indicate future spins". It might sink in after a while.

I haven't decided yet whether you're a scammer and don't actually believe this nonsense yourself (you just want others to believe it) or whether you really do believe it and hence are completely deluded.

Still waiting for an answer as to why betting trends makes you a winner.

[cheese]

I haven't decided yet whether you're a scammer and don't actually believe this nonsense yourself (you just want others to believe it) or whether you really do believe it and hence are completely deluded.

All of the above.

[gizmotron]

Neither can you. Believing that you can (whether you choose to call it a "formula" or not) is called the gambler's fallacy.

Call it whatever you want. Lean on any rationalization you want to. You are entitled to be wrong for as long as I choose to have you be wrong.

Each outcome is equally likely and independent of the last. It's so simple. Stop trying to confuse people with gibberish.

I never have said that each individual spin in not independent. That's you projecting a straw man issue. You think it makes perfect sense. So what are 20 continuous independent spins? Are they an independent set too? I say that sets of spins have characteristics. You don't. That makes you the fallacy merchant.

Try saying 100 times every day: "past spins do not indicate future spins". It might sink in after a while.

Mike, you really are a bowl movement in a symphony. I never have said that past spins are some kind of predictor. They aren't a preventer either. Say 100 times that past spins  or probability odds can't prevent a trend from occurring.

I haven't decided yet whether you're a scammer and don't actually believe this nonsense yourself (you just want others to believe it) or whether you really do believe it and hence are completely deluded.

It's you that are deluded. You think it's all about prediction. That's your own stumbling block. Why do you need people to believe in your misconceptions?

Still waiting for an answer as to why betting trends makes you a winner.

Still waiting to drop the logic bomb on the entire gambling world. That will include your feeble corner of it chump.

[gizmotron]

Just noticed this. Mike, you have taken on the personality, traits, topics, and characteristics of Snowman / Herb. Of course that's just an educated guess.

[xman1970]

You are entitled to be wrong for as long as I choose to have you be wrong.

Think you need to make a call to the doctors......

That "self importance" gene of yours is YET again growing at a dangerous rate.....

[gizmotron]

Think you need to make a call to the doctors......

That "self importance" gene of yours is YET again growing at a dangerous rate.....

You poor pathetic imbecile. The topic of this thread is about me showing all of you people that one day I will disclose my secrets. On that day I will in effect put you out of your misery. This will have a profound effect on you though. You have set out on a personal quest to destroy me. I suggest that you get some professional help because you will probably need to be placed on a self destructive watch. "HAPPY TIME"

[xman1970]

You poor pathetic imbecile.

In reply #43 on this thread you state "Name calling is for school children" So Hi there Kindergarden !!! To be fair to you Gizmo you are consistently UNconsistent....

The topic of this thread is about me showing all of you people that one day I will disclose my secrets. On that day I will in effect put you out of your misery. This will have a profound effect on you though. You have set out on a personal quest to destroy me. I suggest that you get some professional help because you will probably need to be placed on a self destructive watch. "HAPPY TIME"

Well as normal in the REAL world the above is just Charlie Brown's teacher going "Wah! Wah!  Wah! Wah!" same old same old......

[gizmotron]

In reply #43 on this thread you state "Name calling is for school children" So Hi there Kindergarden !!! To be fair to you Gizmo you are consistently UNconsistent....

Why don't you learn how to quote properly? I guess your name is "poor pathetic imbecile" then.

Well as normal in the REAL world the above is just Charlie Brown's teacher going "Wah! Wah!  Wah! Wah!" same old same old......

OK stupid, I'll spell it out for you. My original thread in this part of the forum was locked up. It ended after the announcement that the deal to train ten people for $500 each has now ended. This thread is an announcement of my intentions for my disclosure in the future. You are having such a difficult time with your fantasy, of what you think it means. No matter what happens in the future, when this comes out, I will always need to remember to be humble. I will need to be sympathetic to people such as yourself because of your limited capabilities. Even after disclosing my methods you will be overwhelmed with understanding it. I suspect that no matter how much tutelage you receive you will always be a loser.

[cheese]

The topic of this thread is about me showing all of you people that one day I will disclose my secrets.

They say talk is cheap, but with Gizmo its even worse than cheap, its worthless. He sounds just like the kid who screams at his parents every day: "You'll be sorry! Just you wait, someday you'll be really really sorry!" Then he grows up, never leaves home, and he's right, his parents are really really sorry.

[gizmotron]

They say talk is cheap, but with Gizmo its even worse than cheap, its worthless. He sounds just like the kid who screams at his parents every day: "You'll be sorry! Just you wait, someday you'll be really really sorry!" Then he grows up, never leaves home, and he's right, his parents are really really sorry.

Where do you get this crap? In fact where were you you cheapskate? I gave you a chance to see it first. But all you have is your uninformed opinion. You are nothing but a bitter excuse for a person. Go away if you don't like it. Please.

[cheese]

Where do you get this stuff? In fact where were you you cheapskate? I gave you a chance to see it first.

For $500? You'd have to give me $500 just to look at it.

[Mike]

I never have said that each individual spin in not independent. That's you projecting a straw man issue. You think it makes perfect sense. So what are 20 continuous independent spins? Are they an independent set too? I say that sets of spins have characteristics. You don't. That makes you the fallacy merchant.

D'uh. If each spin is independent then of course any sequence of spins are also independent. Yes, sets of spins can have "characteristics", that means diddly-squat. Show me a set of spins which DOESN'T, it has no bearing on whether you can predict the next spin or set of spins.

Mike, you really are a bowl movement in a symphony. I never have said that past spins are some kind of predictor. They aren't a preventer either. Say 100 times that past spins  or probability odds can't prevent a trend from occurring.

Please don't indulge in idle semantics. Whether you called it "prediction" or not doesn't change the fact that you're using past spins to make decisions as to what you bet on next, and you have to look at past spins to know whether they are trending. So they're not a predictor or a preventer, which means they're useless for the purposes of choosing your bets.

So we have more contradictions and attempts to deflect the real question:

On what principle or mathematical "law" is betting on trends based?

Enquiring minds want to know.

[gizmotron]

For $500? You'd have to give me $500 just to look at it.

Who cut the cheese?

[gizmotron]

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