The Eggleston Betting system

[MauiSunset]

*************Sadly, that's all I use Roulette for - free drinks (which really aren't free with tip and Green(s)).***********

1st- you don't have to tip. 2nd- your blackjack winnings will cover your roulette losses

I tip up front - I give my server $5 up front and order 2 drinks and tell her/him to come back often - they do.  (Second drink is for my "friend" stuck in the bathroom all night)

You pay for what you get......

[col1879]

MauiSunset, I said this belief in a different thread but I will repeat it here.....

You could test colbster's strategy and after 100 sessions be +5,000
You could test colbster's strategy and after 100 sessions be 0
You could test colbster's strategy and after 100 sessions be -10,000

Knowing whether to keep going with the strategy (riding your luck) or knowing when to quit (accepting specifc losses) is what will separate you from the gamblers who continue to play it whatever way the trends are coming (don't say there's no such thing as a trend)

Lastly, only gamble with what you are willing to lose and aim for small profits- they add up

Colin

[MauiSunset]

Play in real time and work the "bugs" out - here's my link nolinks://vlsroulette.com/bet-selection/if-you-want-to-demonstrate-your-system-in-public/

It takes just a few minutes to start playing (with play money) in real time and I can tell you that if you are down after 1 hour of playing you will NEVER play this for real)

Give it a try - save a lot of time...........

[col1879]

*********** (Second drink is for my "friend" stuck in the bathroom all night)********************

I am getting worried about this friend you have- always stuck in the bathroom! Is it because they drink too much alcohol? You should not gamble and drink alcohol at the same time.

[MauiSunset]

*********** (Second drink is for my "friend" stuck in the bathroom all night)********************

I am getting worried about this friend you have- always stuck in the bathroom! Is it because they drink too much alcohol? You should not gamble and drink alcohol at the same time.

I have a lot of fun at a Vegas casino - I get my money's worth in comps and drinks.

While I play BlackJack I have my plastic coated card right on the table and although I have it memorized I double check every hand - one screw up can really hurt you.

[col1879]

******************It takes just a few minutes to start playing (with play money) in real time and I can tell you that if you are down after 1 hour of playing you will NEVER play this for real)***************************

I strongly agree. I usually test a system for weeks before deciding whether to risk real money. And by 'risk' I do mean risk. With roulette nothing is ever a certainty. Some strategies fail after 5 mins. Some 10 mins. Others 30 mins. Some 60 mins. Others 10 hrs +

They all do fail in the end, over infinity. But, like I have posted before, human beings do not play for infinity. They play X amount of spins. Never believe any one strategy is unbeatable. Only gamble with what you are willing to lose. Achieve small profits or accept specific losses. Know when to quit.

I could play colbster's strategy and be in profit after 1 hour of playing and always be in profit for 100 sessions in a row
You could play colbster's strategy and be in losses after 1 hour of playing and always be in losses for 100 sessions in a row

What does that tell you about this particular strategy? (It should tell you to quit after Test 1 and me to continue to Test 100)

[col1879]

******************While I play BlackJack I have my plastic coated card right on the table and although I have it memorized I double check every hand - one screw up can really hurt you.**********************

I've never played bj for real or did any testing on it. Is it worth learning? Any decent strategies for it? This is a bit off topic, this thread is about colbster's egglington

Using the strategiey correctly is only half the battle. Playing with a plan (made before you start) and sticking to it (no matter what) goes a looooong way...... Like I always say, only gamble with what you are willing to lose, aim for small profits and KNOW WHEN TO QUIT

[MauiSunset]

******************While I play BlackJack I have my plastic coated card right on the table and although I have it memorized I double check every hand - one screw up can really hurt you.**********************

I've never played bj for real or did any testing on it. Is it worth learning? Any decent strategies for it? This is a bit off topic, this thread is about colbster's egglington

Using the strategiey correctly is only half the battle. Playing with a plan (made before you start) and sticking to it (no matter what) goes a looooong way...... Like I always say, only gamble with what you are willing to lose, aim for small profits and KNOW WHEN TO QUIT

My one and only comment in this thread about BJ - it's a fantastic game where skill actually makes a difference; worth learning.

[col1879]

Ok I will look in to bj.

Regarding the eggleston, it is worth noting that a start up BR should always be excess. By that I mean only play with money you can afford to lose. You got $500 birthday money? Set up an initial BR of $300 and play colbster's strategy. Based on your initial testing you should set a realistic profit return and an acceptable loss limit.

Do this BEFORE you play with real money and STICK TO IT NO MATTER WHAT. Don't start adding rent money, food money, loan payment money etc in the hope that a bad run of sessions with suddenly become good. You can never guarantee that. Basically, only gamble with what you can afford to lose!

Did a good job at work and got a bonus? You can invest some of that in a start up BR and play colbster's strategy. Not 'needed' money. Basically, instead of going on holiday or buying that new tv you want you are investing in a strategy with EXCESS money. Any investment carries risk.

For example, just looking at eggleston as a seperate strategy, disconnected to any other, I think it's a good strategy. A lot better than a lot of the other strategies out there. If my start up BR (of excess) takes off well then I stay on that trend and ride it, keep going, and make a value judgement- know when to get off. If my start up BR (of excess) takes off badly, nosedives and I lose the whole $300, that's it, I'm outta here. Any new start up BR will be made 100% of EXCESS, no rent money, food money, food money etc..........

If you can remember to keep putting away all those small profits you want to achieve (with any good strategy) then they soon start adding up. Don't get too greedy and KNOW WHEN TO QUIT

The rollercoaster will eventually run out of track, don't stay on too long and leave that ride at what you realistically believe (based on testing) to be the top..........

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Re: The Eggleston Betting system
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2011, 06:32:59 PM »
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OK, I've hit some bad numbers (not too bad) and I want to make sure I'm doing this right.  Colbster, could you check these?

28
20
31L
9W
5
12
13
25
24
6W
24
00L
20W
9L
29W
32
15
28
9W
8
5
2
19
13
21
10
23L
8L
13L
5L
8W
24L
7L
00L
28W
4
11W
21W
31
33
28
33
00
7
13
6
2W
12W
26W
7
2W
33L
15W
27
10W
23
13
11
4W
18L
2L
6W
11W
26W
10
1W
14W
12
10W
36W
28
3
10W
7W
14W
15
17
17
23
18
14
00
31
22
26L
00L
3W
28
3L
23W

28 wins, 16 losses   total -4 units
I guess it would be +2 without the American 00.

i arrive at th same total
when i use the martingale progression of colbster i arrive to +13

colbster when he use his martingale he arrive at + 34

i think colbster has made an error

what do you think?

[birdhands]

28
20
31L -2
9W  -1
5
12
13
25
24
6W +1
24
00L  -1
20
9
29W 0
32
15
28
9W +1
8
5
2
19
13
21
10
23L -1
8L -3
13L -7
5L -11
8W -7
24L -15
7L -23
00L -39
28
4
11W -31
21W  -23
31
33
28
33
00
7
13
6
2W -15
12W -7
26W +1
7
2W +2
33L  0
15W +1
27
10W +3
23
13
11
4W +4
18L +2
2L 0
6W +2
11W +4
26W +6
10
1W +8
14W +10
12
10W +11
36W +12
28
3
10W +13
7W +14
14W +15
15
17
17
23
18
14
00
31
22
26L +13
00L +11
3
28
3L +7
23W +8


Ok, so I've got +8 with the progression.  Although the Left side of the progression is currently at the 4/4 level, so the next Left win (or wins if repeats) will bring it back up in the teens.

Colbster may have been applying a slightly modified betting strategy; I know he is experimenting with a few.  For example, we could have moved up in the progression when the zeros hit instead of just taking the loss.

Sam

[colbster]

I went back and checked my numbers and don't quite see where I screwed up.  I must have lost a negative sign along the way.  Sorry about that - I did a quick check while at work and didn't give it my full consideration.  I agree with the newer numbers.

@Birdhands: Using our new "II" progression, it ended up 94 units. 

[harald]

Any1 with good results besides with free play and 1c bets?

[olinet]

@Birdhands: Using our new "II" progression, it ended up 94 units.

Can we know more about the new progression?

[colbster]

Nope - it is nowhere near ready for public consideration.  Birdhands and I are playing around with a couple variations, but I don't see them making it to the forum for a while. 

[colbster]

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