Making profit the EC way

[col1879]

****************the only time you made money was at the 9th unit game, if your bankroll was $360 then you would have lost it all in the 8th unit game.**************************

sorry but you are wrong lol

by the end of the 8th unit you are only -98!

you do not look at every 10 spins as -10, -20, -30, -40, -50, -60, -70, -80 and simply add them all up to give you a grand total loss of -360! lol

don't forget your winnings! True sum is -6, -8 , -12 , -24, -10, -24, -14, 0 and then add them all up! you would have to lose 80 bets on EC in a row to be -360! And this is a nightmare scenario being -98!

49% of the time you will win on your first spin! Sometimes you will win by end of first 10 spins by 6/4, 7/3, 8/2, 9/1 or 10/0 and so on.

You can and will lose sometimes, you can never guarantee a profit in roulette, but smart MM is a good skill to have  


****************The following system fits in neatly with this discussion thread and was posted by fender1000 on another forum:******************

What forum was that posted on atlantis? it is similar to mine only I do not focus on one EC but all 3. I liked how he did not start betting straight away but added a trigger, I think I'll add that to mine! It's a good idea, but does he wait until one becomes dominant then start betting on the opposite, believing it will surge to get back near to the 50/50?

[atlantis]

Hi Col1879,

This is the thread:

nolinks://rouletteforum.cc/full-systems/how-to-beat-roulette***spin-100***/

As far as I can see there is no more further info than I posted...
I think you could apply it all 3 EC.

A.

[col1879]

ok atlantis thanks i'll check it out

[col1879]

I cannot find the thread, has it been deleted? The link just takes you to the full systems page

I read other posts. Is this fender1000 guy the same guy that created the zone? if it is i'm worried, it means I'm thinking about roulette in the same ways as he does. I think I'll give up now lol

[col1879]

How is this for an improvement?

You are always going to free spin and you only bet IF you notice an EC has repeated 3 times then you bet the opposite, ONCE

eg 1, 8, 22 would result in 1 bet on Odd. That's it, either win or lose. Then track again. What do you think? If negative after 10 bets (not spins) then add 1.

Are the odds in my favour playing this way? If you take a 100 or 1000 spin sample then, on average, do you get more 3 ec repeats THEN change, OR, do the 4 ec repeats THEN change + the 5 ec repeats THEN change + the 6 ec repeats THEN change etc all add up to more?

[WolfgangErnstPauli]

hxxp: rouletteforum. cc/full-systems/how-to-beat-roulette***spin-100***/msg1290/

[col1879]

***************Are the odds in my favour playing this way? If you take a 100 or 1000 spin sample then, on average, do you get more 3 ec repeats THEN change, OR, do the 4 ec repeats THEN change + the 5 ec repeats THEN change + the 6 ec repeats THEN change etc all add up to more?******************************

If the answer is 50/50 or 60/40 towards 3 ec repeats THEN change, we could be on to something If it's not we are stuffed lol

Yes I know extremes either way can happen, I am looking for the (MY lifetime) AVERAGE which will hopefully be better than mr joe bloggs lifetime average (not INFINITY)


******************************hxxp: rouletteforum. cc/full-systems/how-to-beat-roulette***spin-100***/msg1290/**************

still does not work for me, even changing the hxxp to its proper format


EDIT: ok, got the link working

[col1879]

Just did a quick trial run on free play online using the 3 ec repeat then opposite method.

1 on Red, 1 on Black - Free Spin

17 - B/O/L - no bet
6   - B/E/L - no bet
33 - B/O/H - 1 on Red
31 - B/O/H - Loss (-1), 1 on Red
15 - B/O/L - Loss (-1), 1 on Even  
4   - B/E/L  - Win (+1), 1 on Red
5   - R/O/L - Win (+1), 1 on High
22 - B/E/H - Win (+1)

8 spins, 5 bets, 3 wins, 2 losses: Profit +1

After 15 came out, the reason I bet Even and not Red, is because you always bet on the EC that has 3 repeats, you don't chase longer strings of repeats! Even though had 5 Black in a row, doesn't make next spin more likely Red!

Only bet Red after 4 because other 2 EC's (O/E + H/L) did not have 3 repeats.


************EDIT**************

Sorry, made a mistake, should not have bet on Red after number 4 came out. Only bet when 3 ec's repeats, NOT SIX! lol I cannot follow my own rules lol

Also noticed, should not have bet on Red after 31 came out lol I'm an idiot

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[col1879]

I just did another quick test. I actually find it easier to write down the three ec's rather than the numbers:

R E L - no bet
R O L - no bet
B E H - no bet
B E H - no bet
B E H - 1 on Low
R O L - +1 profit

END SESSION

[darrynf]

if you are betting 1 10 times then thats 10, and you lose, at 2 its 20 at 3 its 30 and so on, i dont think it will work.

anyway i hope it works out for you col.

[col1879]

******************************if you are betting 1 10 times then thats 10, and you lose, at 2 its 20 at 3 its 30 and so on, I dont think it will work.anyway I hope it works out for you col.**************************

Yes if you lose 80 times in a row you are -360.

But if you were following my example of a nightmare start you would be -98

If you lose 80 bets in a row playing EC then you would be the unluckiest person in the world! lol

[col1879]

This is where I am at with the strategy for testing:

Starting BR- 1000
New BR Target- If double BR (2000) then rathole (50%) and carry on
Golden Rule- Stop on ANY profit

Always to start choose one EC at random (either H/L, R/B, O/E), if Win (48% of the time you will) then QUIT, if lose then start free spinning and always watch 3 last numbers for trigger.

Trigger is if last 3 numbers are repeats then bet 1 unit on opposite. Always check balance and quit on ANY profit. If NOT last 3 numbers repeat eg 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 etc numbers repeat DO NOT BET! It is a trap! Only bet if 3 (the magic number) repeats then choose opposite

For betting it is:  1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,4,4,4,4,4,4,4,4,4,4,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6, 7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7

If you reach the end of the 7's then just take your losses and run. There will be another day! Alternatively, if you reach -100 at any time cut your losses and RUN! Never go beyond -100 in a single session.

I am going to do extensive manual testing and will post results (good or bad) in my original post on this thread. For testing I cannot do it online because my ps3 browser keeps crashing. I am just going to write the numbers down on paper and pull them out of a hat. How else could I do it? Tossing a coin wont work because I need to keep a record of previous 3 bets for tracking and to know when the trigger hits. Any other ideas? A random number generator maybe?

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For testing I am going to use random.org and generate 1 number at a time

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[darrynf]

thats true mate lol

i like your idea of the progression and am using it with a different idea and see how it goes, ill get back to you if it shows promise.

im getting someone to test it out for me over 10,000 spins or is it 100,000 spins either way it will be interesting, also applying the concept of the percentage wins and restarting the progression.

I like that idea very much and appling it with the dozens as they pay more, ill let you know how it goes as soon as i hear about it.

[col1879]

I have started testing and will be updating my original post with the results.

Got off to a flying start and won my first three tests on the first spin. Test 4 was a nightmare, I only won 9 of my first 30 bets! Still ended up +4. During the 39 spins it even threw FIVE zeros at me for a total loss of 11 units (1,1,3,3,3) and I still beat it! Won Test 4 with a win rate of 43.58%!

[col1879]

Ok darrynf keep me updated, hope it works well for you

[col1879]

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