Call It Whatever.....

[pins]

the maths say you must pick wrong. more times then right.

[pauljwpa]

how big is your bankroll if your playing 200 units and walking away +3 units.

[Mr J]

the maths say you must pick wrong. more times then right.

Just got home, another $600. I agree, the zeros hitting sucks. This isn't tough. One of the EC's gets choppy.....switch to stop the bleeding. If its NOT choppy, stay on it. Not switching is a 'good' thing, it means something. lol Our history boards hold 13 numbers. This is what I love to see >>

12, 22, 36, 30, 18, 4, 36, 31 (a loss), 11, 21, 27, 27, 9, 1, 11 <<< Those are actuals from today.

I also keep track in my notebook, just in case. This is how I write it, 4 choices.


RO
RE
LO
LE    (L means black).

Ken

[Mr J]

how big is your bankroll if your playing 200 units and walking away +3 units.

$5,600 BR.  ($600 win goal)

Ken

[darrynf]

its a good idea and concept mr j, how ever most people dont have that b.r.

its still a very good idea.

if you get a loss, do you use progression ?

if so how many steps do you go before you stop, your whole b.r ?

[ripple]

Try using this system below within your system.

Its based on the radio waves principle ie at some stage the wins and losses must cross when betting on the even chances.

It fits in neatly with your own strategy as you only need to win +3 in every 315 wins.

OK so you have 3 SS's in this system.

SS1 = bet same as winner last time
SS2 = bet opposite to winner last time
SS3 = 2 the same, ie AABBAABB

Always look at table before you start. Pick the table where you spot a streak. Start to play that streak using SS1. Play until you get 4 losses in a  row then swap to SS2 for 2 spins then back to SS1. If still in trouble play SS3 for 4 spins and then back to SS1.

The idea is that you keep returning to SS1 only moving away from it when another SS is streaking...... Built into the strategy are the change points and its pretty good and sure should work well if you only need to be +3 each session.

I have played this flat betting and increasing. When increasing I add 1 chip after every loss to my bet and take 1 chip away everytime I win. When you get to +3 you would stop.

I play this system on all the three even chances at the same time. This is tricky but after some practise is not too hard.

I do this as insurance. I only need one 'even chance' to hit a nice streak and the profits add and add.

Highly recommend you look at this Mr J if you only need +3 a session.

[Mr J]

"Highly recommend you look at this Mr J if you only need +3 a session" >>> Of course it does depend on the unit size but I'll look it over, thanks.

Ken

[catalyst]

its a good idea and concept mr j, how ever most people dont have that b.r.

its still a very good idea.

if you get a loss, do you use progression ?

if so how many steps do you go before you stop, your whole b.r ?

Mr J
please answer. so that we can understand your exact way of playing.
thanks
catalyst

[Mr J]

its a good idea and concept mr j, how ever most people dont have that b.r.

its still a very good idea.

if you get a loss, do you use progression ?

if so how many steps do you go before you stop, your whole b.r ?

I dont use a progression. I WOULD use my entire BR if it got to that, no biggie. I would have to be MINUS 28 bets to lose it all. I still play this and I love it but at $200 a pop, its not for everyone. Thats the advantage of a higher BR. Joe Smith (the broke guy) and myself have the SAME goal, $600, then leave. I only need to be plus 3. His BR is 1K and his bets are $20 a pop. Good luck Joe Smith. 


Ken

[catalyst]

Mr J
may i askyou how do you play or what is your bet selection or money management?
your comments are appreciated.
happy hunting.
thanks
catalyst

[Mr J]

I already posted it.

Ken

[Mr J]

I thought about this a little more, I can meet some halfway, thats the best I can do. I would agree, lets say my method was based on betting on an EC for 500 spins per visit to the casino.

I would pick any EC and at the END of the 500 spins, the goal would be +3 units. All 500 spins must be met REGARDLESS if I hit +3 early on. I agree 100%, I would pick wrong more times than correct.

But thats NOT the method. Its +3 (quit). So where is the line drawn? Meaning, lets say my goal was +1 FOR THE DAY, then quit? To make it tougher, the units are not $200, they are $5 units.

Soooo, +$5 we'll say for 9 hours of play. Cant be done? I did not even touch on the subject of betting on the TREND, I left that out of the post.

Ken

[Kelly]

Easy done ken. If you can settle for an easy strategy like follow the last, just name your bankroll and I will run it on real spins.

Target: + 3.

Bet selection: Follow the last, flat bet.

Bankroll: ?

I can tell you that I just tryed the strategy with a bankroll of 14 units and you lost the bankroll in Hamburg  02.10.1998 before you reached the target . (testing only 1 month. Failed on day 2)

Extending the bankroll to 25 units, you made it home on the 02.10.1998 but lost 25 units on 08.10.1998 before reaching the +3 target. Extending the bankroll to 50 units flat bet, your session finished with -31 on the 08.10.1998 and a new session starts from 0 the day after. 

[Mr J]

A couple points.

A) Nothing against you but I do not take seriously RESULTS from AP guys or from people that hate my guts.  Can you imagine Snowjob posting 'true' results? It would never happen.

B) The rules of how I play would have to be followed. You posted results without knowing perfectly how I play, thats odd. Also, BR (for testing) would not matter. It would be +3 in....350 spins?

C) When to SWITCH because an EC is getting choppy, open to interpretation.

Ken

[Kelly]

True, but you have on plenty of occasions given the impression that the main thing was to hang in there and quit at +3. You never said that the main thing to stay in profit was the bet selection. As for the results, they can be seen in a text file.  They are NOT manipulated, im not digging into 9000 spins to try and make it go in minus. Thats not nessecary.

[Kelly]

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