It is just a matter of knowing what the wheel is throwing at the time.

[cheese]

Everything makes sense except this.  What does this mean exactly?  What do you mean "determine where you are?"

I can't play if I don't know where my game is compared to the game unfolding in the random outcomes. (no, the spins have no meaning, only what I give them)

[ll l ll l lll ll]

I can't play if I don't know where my game is compared to the game unfolding in the random outcomes. (no, the spins have no meaning, only what I give them)

I think I "may" have just figured out what kind of game you are playing.

[cheese]

I think I "may" have just figured out what kind of game you are playing.

Sure you have..

[I have cookies]

I think I "may" have just figured out what kind of game you are playing.

Nice so now you can reach 3 std flat betting and out-guess 50/50 - good for you 

[hoper35]

I never see a bet and think 'better bet now', they're all the same.

My good days, I think this a lot. 

I will even abandon my method at times to follow or go against another bettor when I "know" he/she is going to do good or bad.


Ron.

[graham44]

IF you are playing a system/method and NOT VB/Bias, what else is there APART from past spins to use to decide where to bet  

Birthdays and anniversaries, of course.    Duh.   .   .   

Come on then Cheese explain yourself.   Your implying with that comment that their is something else apart from past spins to decide where to place your next bet.   

[ll l ll l lll ll]

On their own, they point to nothing. But they can be useful, if you're clever, and never think something is 'due'. There are no good bets in roulette, no better bets, no specific time to bet. All you can do is guess.

This is pure gold.  I suggest all those who are really interested in beating this game to really take to heart what this man preaches.  Cheese, aka SPIKE has figured it out, and believe it or not, thanks to him, I have come to that place as well.  "Never think something is due, nothing is connected."

[ll l ll l lll ll]

The spins have to be true random, not faux random spit out by an RNG. You could make up a stream of numbers and I couldn't work with them. True random is important, the numbers have to be unique independent events.

True random is more "chaotic" in nature, faux random produced by an RNG produces results that you only see once with a real wheel in 100 visits to the casino.  Learn to play the chaotic which I have adapted to my style of play.

Never think something is 'due.'

With practice, this is the most efficient way to play the game, flat betting.  I can consistently earn 5+ units in approximately 40 spins, sometimes much less in as little as 5 spins.  Spike,  you have opened up my eyes, your words have "wised up this chump."

[ll l ll l lll ll]

I'm always amazed that every discussion I've had about roulette in the last 5 years on forums inevitably comes down to 'are spins independent or aren't they'. The 'law' is, if they're independent, which they are, then you can't exploit them. I've heard this so many times I should get it tatoo'd on my forearm. Herb used to say it 5 times a day till he was banned. Thats the brick wall nobody can get around.  Its an assumption, not a law. But, talk is cheap...

100% correct.  The very fact that they are independent is the very reason why and how the game can be beat!  I have developed about 5 different ways to play within the random string of results in the even chances.  As strange as it may seem, my thinking of chaotic results has evolved to the point where I now see perfect patterns such as RBRBRBRB as "chaotic" for my style of play and I avoid it.

[schoenpoetser]

In my opinion there are no special or chaotic sequences. On average every 8-event sequence will fall 2^8=256 spins.No account the zero.this principle uses the SSB-system.You have never to wait for a special row to start betting.

[PRP]

"Never think something is due, nothing is connected. "

This is not true at all.  It's funny to me that people believe this. 

[PRP]

100% correct.   The very fact that they are independent

100% False.  It is not a fact that they are independent.  In fact, the opposite is true.

[PRP]

Spins are NOT independent and this fact is what makes the wheel great!

Don't talk about my wheel like that.   

[pins]

i have found that no matter what system you use sometimes it works and sometimes it does not. but if you play on a regular base. you will get a losing streak. no infallible systems . you think you can read the numbers. you are in for a rude awakening.  good luck.

[PRP]

I don't read numbers. 
I know the numbers that the wheel produces, most of the time.  So it's not really about "a system. "

[PRP]

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