It is just a matter of knowing what the wheel is throwing at the time.

[Rocky]

I've learn't,    as much as you want to be generous and give of your valuable gold nuggets of knowledge in contributing to others prosperity, there will always be those who are unapprecheciative and actually some who will turn, and try and attack you, for giving them something valuable.

If you are wise and had the 'roulette grail' you would never post it for that reason, I guess that's why we're never really seen many real gems that stand up after all these years on the forums, (not being negative just realistic).

"Be careful not to throw your pearls in front of swine................................"

To all the rest, my very Best to you.

Over and out

Rocky

[TwoCatSam]

"If you persist long enough with most things you'll eventually receive the answer"  Edison?  Light bulb? 

Rocky

I've tried to e-mail you but it comes back.  Contact me at twocatsam@cox.net.

Sam

[mcmonaco]

If you are wise and had the 'roulette grail' you would never post it for that reason, I guess that's why we're never really seen many real gems that stand up after all these years on the forums, (not being negative just realistic).



Rocky
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--I have seen, and am constantly playing it ever since very succ.
  a real holy grail on the long run.On other cc forum.The longest
  thread overthere,version 8......PCWB

[mcmonaco]

"If you persist long enough with most things you'll eventually receive the answer"  Edison?  Light bulb.


--No Sam,no Edison but Nikola Tesla.

[TwoCatSam]

Ah, Tesla........

True genius.  Was Edison a thief?

Sam

[crackers]

Ah, Tesla........

True genius.  Was Edison a thief?

Sam

What a poser band. I had a meet with some of them. Truly gifted musicians with no chance of breaking out of the hit maker machine. But none of you are worthy of judging them. They were on the bus.

[TwoCatSam]

I know of no band.  I do know of Nicoli Tesla.  He invented the electric motor.

His genius has never been lauded properly.

"But none of you are worthy of judging them."  Have no intention of judging them; couldn't work up the energy to care less.

Have a blessed day!

TCS

[Rocky]

Congratulations mcmonaco

You have found one of the "gems" that stand up!

I had a quick look, (90 something pages, didn't read them all) works on dozens, can have substantial drawdowns, but as (is it) FLAT IMO said himself after loosing one day, came back the next day, and made up for previous losses and recovered in profit the next day.

If it is consistently winning as I believe it is for you and others, then yes you've found a grail and I say power to you and the inventor of it.

Well done and thankyou for bringing it our attention.

I don't play dozens, I like tracking down a number, for me its more of a challenge to pin down an exact number. That's not to boohoo other variations, the parameters I'm looking for in a grail are more precise and consistent, the PCWB and its large variations in play, though you're able to recover would not suit my style of play. But many would quite rightly say, who cares as long as you're winning, and logically I would have to agree, anyway we're all different!

Cheers Rocky

[Rocky]

Just an update for those interested:

found this 4/6/10/ table AR06, card 3

four zero patterns all in a row, three of them overlapping, producing a zero. As opposed to my observations where four of the 7 listed numbers in a row seem to nulify producing a zero.
The four zero patterns do!

9 24 9 22 24, here can you see two overlapping patterns (9, 24, 9) and (24, 9, 22, 24) then 31 7 24
again another overlap (24, 31, 7, 24) followed by 6 19 6 0.

thus: 9 24 9 22 24 31 7 24 6 19 6 (0) so here eleven numbers with a combination of four zero patterns has produced on the twelth spin a zero.

This was followed for interests sake with 13, 32, (16, 24, 16) 0 then 16, thus another overlapping pattern of (16,0, 16) 4, 2, 31, and another 0.

the whole sequence is 13 32 16 24 16 (0) 16 4 2 31 (0) : so in twenty three successive numbers we have six zero patterns producing three zero's.

Nothing like hunting a zero down!

Cheers Rocky

[Red74]

I haven't read the whole thread so sorry if already been said. But of what use is there in identifying patterns after they have happened, many moons ago. How can they help you in the here and now? Are you saying that if you go hunting for patterns like the ones you present you are onto a winner? So there is some kind of trigger right? But then the old problem of random kicks in and makes the continuation of the pattern no more or less likely that probability would suggest. How do you argue against this point?

It seems to me all efforts to find a holy grail are only delaying the inevitable understanding that there is no such thing. In a funny way i think the true holy grail of roulette is just to forget about it all together 

[TwoCatSam]

Red

Don't want to start a fight, but sometimes trends continue.

You are right in your assessment.  A wise man said of craps:  "You can never truthfully say the table is hot, only that it has been hot."  By the same token, you can only truthfully say of roulette:  Red has been coming.

Still, trends are one of the only things you can depend on the wheel to produce.

Sam
 

[Rocky]

Red74, thankyou for your honesty in saying you haven't read the whole thread, just read from page 30 onwards of this thread , and I believe your questions will be answered.

Cheers Rocky

[Roulette-Boss-Chick]

Hi TwoCatSam

As I explained these are examples of the alternating pattern: it could be 2, 20, 2 in that order for example, it could be something like 26, 8, 25, 26, I'm showing the type of alternating pattern.
Its the same number alternating either 1st and 3rd spin (i.e. 2, 20, 2) or the same number coming out 1st and 4th spin, (26,8,25,26) hope this clarifies the two e.g.'s above).

Its not guaranteed, as I explained, though it does seem to have a high strike rate from my observance over the years. You're right, this pattern doesn't happen all the time, that's why you would be constantly moving around the casino watching the display boards. I'm showing at the basic level a corelation between prior numbers and how I have seen them in a percentage of cases follow these patterns.
That's all my point was, as I don't believe in randomness, I believe roulette to be a highly ordered and also at the same time incredibly complex in its inter-relationships between numbers and complex patterns. That's why it looks totally unpredictable. Within it lies, I believe pattern upon pattern upon pattern infinitum, all waiting to be discovered. What I shared was a very tiny example of that.
 
My purpose was not to give a "system", but my observation. It may turn out that 8 to 9 successes out of 10 similiar examples over a huge sample study of "like results" will prove, not as high. So don't go out and wager on it, as I said look at your history of past spin results (do your own due diligence on the matter) and see if it rings true from your own observance. We all need to take responsibility for our own decisions and actions and question everything!
I hope I have answered your concerns TwoCatSam.
Rocky

God bless the day I found you Mr. Rocky and bless the day I came across this your post.  I have been thinking whether I am  different as to be seeing these patterns and number relationships from my years of taking past play data and analyzing them before playing. I have been laughed and mocked by other roulette players when I am doing my usual writing work at roulette machines, they laugh at me yet I am the one that sees all the hidden number affinities that they are not seeing. I go to roulette forums like roulette30/roulettelife and I see roulette professionals make stupid talk about ball speed, ball revolution and roulette computers that measure spin rate and all kind of thing and I am amazed knowing that if you take past spins, analyze and watch the affinities that it can give you a 50% predictability. They all say that roulette results are random and that future spins are independent of past spin. My discoveries of number friendship have shown me that roulette numbers are not as rigidly random as people believe, the randomness is not much and occurs when the machine is adjusted to take from customers. Future spins of roulette numbers most times relate to past spins and it is only the patient ones like Mr. Rocky here that see that. I even wrote a book about roulette number relationship but kept it and did not publish it at Amazon after telling myself that people will not believe this and that I don´t want to help anybody lose their money. I am glad I found and registered at this forum really. I await people to come forward and dispute this and we can rub mind on this issue.

[Roulette-Boss-Chick]

Double post...sorry. Had to delete the second one.

[Rocky]

HI Two Cat Sam, been a while since I've posted on this site, I think you play the American 00 wheel whereas I play the European wheel. In Australia now where I play, for the last 6 months they have created a hybrid wheel (2 of them, $5 chip per number) a EURO WHEEL WITH 00 INSERTED BETWEEN THE 5 and 10 at the bottom. Even the croupiers are unimpressed at what this Casino has done. Just means adding a couple of more chips to cover the scatter in the area I'm targeting. I HAVE MOVED ON A LOT SINCE Targeting Zero's ( a basic strategy, although solid) Best Regards Rocky.

[Rocky]

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