It is just a matter of knowing what the wheel is throwing at the time.

[VKM]

OK if you want to add all of the spins that have happened in the history of Roulette and all of the spins that will happen, to the spins in Gizmo's example, then some of the time after the first dozen was absent for 10 spins, Gizmo would have lost ONE bet on the next spin.

VKM

[gizmotron]

What is a streak?  How many things make up a streak?

If you say a streak is 5, for example, then look at historical spins and you will see that #6 is 50/50 as to whether it is going to be part of the streak - it's totally random.

Where Gizmo, and folks like him, get it all wrong is that they think they have special powers, kind of like Superman, that tell them when random numbers will do things.

It's all bunk out of a comic book.....

I think that's UFO voodoo baloney. But I'm not sure. I can't understand a word you said. Nobody could. On one day you say that trends don't exist and on this day you do say they exist after all. You need to get professional help. I would make an appointment with a proctologist that specializes in cranial rectal inversions. That one would be right up your ally.

[MauiSunset]

I think that's UFO voodoo baloney. But I'm not sure. I can't understand a word you said. Nobody could. On one day you say that trends don't exist and on this day you do say they exist after all. You need to get professional help. I would make an appointment with a proctologist that specializes in cranial rectal inversions. That one would be right up your ally.

Gizmo, your arguments make no sense at all - you've made insane claims that you can do things that no other human can do yet you can't seem to offer any proof except lashing out at others.

I don't claim anything except that what's at work is just the odds, the next number spun out is going to be ANY of the 37 numbers on the wheel.

You claim to be able to read the wheel, yet you've never shown us a single example of that ability.

One must then assume that you are your own reference and that there isn't anyone else left on this planet that can support your insane claims.

Gizmo, you can't read random numbers and there isn't anyone here that can back up your crazy claims - no "students" have come forward, you duck my $25 challenge, yet you infest every thread here with your insanity.

I don't believe you Gizmo for one second, is there anyone here that believes in any of Gizmo's insanity?  That you and Gizmo can read random numbers and use that ability to pick the next number spun?  I'd be curious to see that ability demonstrated by anyone but Gizmo....

[gizmotron]

Gizmo, your arguments make no sense at all - you've made insane claims that you can do things that no other human can do yet you can't seem to offer any proof except lashing out at others.

I don't claim anything except that what's at work is just the odds, the next number spun out is going to be ANY of the 37 numbers on the wheel.

You claim to be able to read the wheel, yet you've never shown us a single example of that ability.

One must then assume that you are your own reference and that there isn't anyone else left on this planet that can support your insane claims.

Gizmo, you can't read random numbers and there isn't anyone here that can back up your crazy claims - no "students" have come forward, you duck my $25 challenge, yet you infest every thread here with your insanity.

I don't believe you Gizmo, is there anyone here that believes in any of Gizmo's insanity?

This makes no sense at all. Are you from a UFO website? Are you kidding, $25. This is a gambling forum not the welfare office.  You want food stamps with your drink tokes then why don't you learn about player services?

I was wrong about you all along. You couldn't possibly belong to the mathboyz. You are from the boyzboyz.

Stop trying to impress people. You are way out of your league here.

[VKM]

I believe that Gizmo, by being aware of what is currently happening at the table, can recognize conditions when they are favorable and bet accordingly.   If the favorable conditions continue he wins.   When those conditions change he stops betting.   I also believe that if you, Maui, gained experience in this, then you could do it too.


VKM

[MauiSunset]

The original question posed, in this thread, is "knowing" what the wheel is going to throw out in the next spin.

Statistics says that the next number will be between 0 and 36 and that ALL numbers have an equal likelihood of being spun out.

If you believe in something different then you've using voodoo math and science to backup your claims - traditional science can't help you.

The result is lunacy folks just crazy folks running around making no sense at all.

Does that mean that you can't win at Roulette?

Of course not, there are plenty of other avenues that use real science and math.  Personally I'm not into the physics of the wheel, I'm into Money Management techniques.  Do I have anything that "works", no; I'm doing research and conducting experiments of my own systems.  Do I think I will eventually have something that "works" - maybe but I won't know unless I spend time, money, and effort in doing so...

[MauiSunset]

I believe that Gizmo, by being aware of what is currently happening at the table, can recognize conditions when they are favorable and bet accordingly.   If the favorable conditions continue he wins.   When those conditions change he stops betting.   I also believe that if you, Maui, gained experience in this, then you could do it too.


VKM

Gambling is no different than investing in the stock market - you can't forecast the future.  No person has ever demonstrated that ability to my knowledge.

There is luck, which I believe in, and there are skillful gamblers, which I've never seen in Roulette but have in poker and Black Jack.

I don't believe that skill makes any difference in Roulette - luck does.....

All this is so simple to verify - just play in real time on a live TV wheel - my $25 challenge to anyone - the prize is still unclaimed after 6 weeks - that says more than all this drivel about secret abilities and powers.....

All of this kind of reminds me when kids learn that there isn't a Santa that has the ability to visit 6 billion folks in 6 hours - everyone tells you he exists - grown ups wouldn't lie would they?

[gizmotron]

The original question posed, in this thread, is "knowing" what the wheel is going to throw out in the next spin.

Statistics says that the next number will be between 0 and 36 and that ALL numbers have an equal likelihood of being spun out.

If you believe in something different then you've using voodoo math and science to backup your claims - traditional science can't help you.

The result is lunacy folks just crazy folks running around making no sense at all.

Does that mean that you can't win at Roulette?

Of course not, there are plenty of other avenues that use real science and math.  Personally I'm not into the physics of the wheel, I'm into Money Management techniques.  Do I have anything that "works", no; I'm doing research and conducting experiments of my own systems.  Do I think I will eventually have something that "works" - maybe but I won't know unless I spend time, money, and effort in doing so..

Once again you fail to make much sense. It's really terrible to see this happen in public. Take this for instance: "The original question posed, in this thread, is "knowing" what the wheel is going to throw out in the next spin."

The thread title says nothing about the next spin. Here it is: "It is just a matter of knowing what the wheel is throwing at the time." Now that could be of interest to those that prefer physics for their answers. It's also interesting to me because I like to know what's currently happening too. So that's just one thing that I see. This MauiSunset dude is obsessed with future spins. He sounds kind of like a KOOK if you know what I mean.

[gizmotron]

Gambling is no different than investing in the stock market - you can't forecast the future.  No person has ever demonstrated that ability to my knowledge.

There is luck, which I believe in, and there are skillful gamblers, which I've never seen in Roulette but have in poker and Black Jack.

I don't believe that skill makes any difference in Roulette - luck does.....

All this is so simple to verify - just play in real time on a live TV wheel - my $25 challenge to anyone - the prize is still unclaimed after 6 weeks - that says more than all this drivel about secret abilities and powers.....

All of this kind of reminds me when kids learn that there isn't a Santa that has the ability to visit 6 billion folks in 6 hours - everyone tells you the exists.....

Wow, what a bunch of UFO website baloney. This poor fellow is a newbie gambler. That's obvious. I have no idea what you are rambling on about. Do you have a point?

[VKM]

The thing that I have a hard time understanding is:

Anyone here would agree that if you gave someone 100 past spins, they would be able to, based on the information contained in those past spins, reverse engineer ways to win against those 100 past spins.  

So, why do some people appear positive that there isn't ANY information, that could possibly be useful, present in the first 80 of that 100?

VKM

[gizmotron]

Take the reoccurring coincidence. Did you know that sometimes the same thing just keeps happening? Of course you need a road map to see it. But that's OK too. Some people think that no map is the only truth there is.

And yes MauiSunset, we know you have kooky ideas too. So please share some more.

[MauiSunset]

The thing that I have a hard time understanding is:

Anyone here would agree that if you gave someone 100 past spins, they would be able to, based on the information contained in those past spins, reverse engineer ways to win against those 100 past spins.  

So, why do some people appear positive that there isn't ANY information, that could possibly be useful, present in the first 80 of that 100?

VKM

This has been tried for 300 years now and not one person has done this.

This is all related to Gamblers Fallacy nolinks://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy

The idea that somehow past random numbers mean something.  They are just the numbers the wheel or RNG spit out and did not depend on the 100 numbers before that and the 100 numbers before that.

All of these crazy ideas require that a memory be kept somewhere - maybe Roulette gremlins keep track of all those numbers.

And just how accurate are the past 100 numbers in forecasting the future spins?  Is it 100% accurate or 90% or 5% or 0% (Correct answer).

Like I said, you have to throw out traditional math and science and start to use UFO technology to make these crazy ideas work.

They don't work....

[gizmotron]

This has been tried for 300 years now and not one person has done this.

This is all related to Gamblers Fallacy nolinks://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy

The idea that somehow past random numbers mean something.  They are just the numbers the wheel or RNG spit out and did not depend on the 100 numbers before that and the 100 numbers before that.

All of these crazy ideas require that a memory be kept somewhere - maybe Roulette gremlins keep track of all those numbers.

And just how accurate are the past 100 numbers in forecasting the future spins?  Is it 100% accurate or 90% or 5% or 0% (Correct answer).

Like I said, you have to throw out traditional math and science and start to use UFO technology to make these crazy ideas work.

They don't work....

Boy you're almost becoming the spokes person for all UFO concepts. What was that you tried to say about 300 years? Are you that old? Do you have any idea what you are trying to say? You really need to get some professional help.

[MauiSunset]

Boy you're almost becoming the spokes person for all UFO concepts. What was that you tried to say about 300 years? Are you that old? Do you have any idea what you are trying to say? You really need to get some professional help.

Monkey see, monkey do.

I still think your mommy and daddy won't let you go to the casino.....

[VKM]

Sorry Maui... This has nothing to do with Gambler's Fallacy.  It's not predicting which number is next.  It's not thinking something is "due".  

This is about being aware of the current conditions, and, if favorable, being willing to risk a bet to see if those conditions continue.  Please try to understand this.  It's not as hard as you're making it.


VKM

 

[VKM]

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