Reason to win system ... GF ot NOT GF? This is the question !

[kenio]

Kenio You use EV not in the correct way. E(expected) V(alue) has a mathematical definition. What do you mean with EV.  With EV+ a pokerplayer will say he is winning.

Expected Value is number of trials x winning probability.

Eg.  we bet 12 numbers on single zero roulette.  Probability of our success is 12/37.
After 100 spins EV= 100 x 12/37
                         EV= 32. 43

[schoenpoetser]

The mathematical EV is for the Frens roulette 1,35 for ECs,  2,7 for all other chances  and for special bets
about 2,0. The EV for double zero wheels 5,4. The 5 number bet has the worst EV.

[insidebet]

Hello,

I tested 27 sessions just for fun. 
25 winners for +440 units
2 losers for-605

Net result -165, which probably is quite close to -2,7%

Anyone surprised???

Mind you, it only is 27 sessions and that is very little.  Which brings me  to ask again:  <<Are all RX coders dead???>>.  This method would be so simple to code for someone with the skills.  You could then test a very large numbers of sessions quite rapidly.

iNSIDER

[catalyst]

Hello,

I tested 27 sessions just for fun. 
25 winners for +440 units
2 losers for-605

Net result -165, which probably is quite close to -2,7%

Anyone surprised???

Mind you, it only is 27 sessions and that is very little.  Which brings me  to ask again:  <<Are all RX coders dead???>>.  This method would be so simple to code for someone with the skills.  You could then test a very large numbers of sessions quite rapidly.

iNSIDER

hi psolaras


heaven and earth never agreed better to frame a wheel for sleepers!

your efforts to bring dead sleepers into life are appreciated.
thanks
catalyst

[schoenpoetser]

Hi Insider
If the lost of 165 units is 2,7% the total bets of 27 sessions is 6111 units. On average every session you bet 226 units.
I think you don`t believe this.
For an exact computation you must know the number of spins of every session and the number of units of every spin.
Every system give on the long run a lost of 2,7% of the total bet.You can not beat the house edge or EV.

[Psolaras]

Ok schoenpoetser.
So what is ur advice? Should we all stop playing Roulette? Or what?

[schoenpoetser]

Psolares I visit my casino more than 35 years with much pleasure.I have developed a personal skill.There is a difference  how I play roulette in the casino and on internet.Special for internet I have a successful strategy.In my opinion the best way to play successful is a strategy based on maths and systems By studying small samples up to 250 spins I have learned very much about the features of random rows.
Play random is playing without common sense. My strategy is universal for all kinds of roulette.

[jrhelp007]

Insidebet,

I had similar results. Again it comes to sleepers/spins which exceeds the number of bet,  above -300,  noted by the founder of the system.

John

[Psolaras]

So schoenpoetser have you posted ur method here?
Or are you one of the many that critisise the methods of the others and just claim that all are $hit exept their (imaginery) method?

[schoenpoetser]

I like discus roulette.I have a lot of experience and mathematical knowledge of the roulette.Especially the maths are very poor.I try to give sensible advice.I study the different systems of members and point out the weakness.My excelprograms are download very much. I can describe systems but not my strategy.Everywhere on the forum you can find my basic rules for a strategy.Interested members can watch my free demonstrations on internet.
I have a power point program to learn to play the roulette. Three hours theory of the maths and about three hours to explain wellknown systems and at least a demonstration.
With full respect for other ideas I participate in discussions.
I do not argue AP,VB,DS and tilted and biased wheels.

[Psolaras]

I study the different systems of members and point out the weakness.

we all know where are the weeknesses in any system...LoL
The point is how to make a system with the less weeknesses in order to be a LR winner

[schoenpoetser]

Some systemdesigners make basic mistakes,because they have not the mathematical knowledge.
For example you have to systems.One system needs 12 units on the inside bets.The second system use one unit on Red.What is the best system.I shall explain in a following reply.

[jrhelp007]

schoenpoetser,

I sent you a private message.

Thanks,

John

[catalyst]

So schoenpoetser have you posted ur method here?
Or are you one of the many that critisise the methods of the others and just claim that all are $hit exept their (imaginery) method?

hi psolaras
you are right. i like your tune to say that  mathematical verbiage brought by some members only show their expertise in math but not a contribution in the system. i have seen lot of stars with mathematical density could not escape gravitational pull of blackhole. these are dead people with E=MC2

thanks
catalyst

[schoenpoetser]

Catalyst do you have the answer of my question?
To judge systems you need a little sense of mathematics.To understand VB you must learn a lot about kinematics.On the forum I have never saw a demonstration of VB or other methods.
Long run test of systems have always the same results.
Some time ago I have posted my stats playing a RNG roulette.My conclusion you did not see them.

[schoenpoetser]

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