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[ll l ll l lll ll]

New creation I have been developing using the dozens and a very small stable progression.  So far in 900+ spins it has not lost.  But I need your help.  If you would like to test, please do and report your progress.

Bet selection:
We are looking for the "most recent dominant" dozen.  For my strategy, it is the first dozen which has most recently appeared twice.  Example:  35,24,2,28 are the last 4 numbers to be spun off the wheel and they are the most recent 4 numbers spun on the marquee.  The 3rd dozen now qualifies as the "dominant dozen" b/c the 3rd dozen is the most recent dozen to appear twice (35,28).

Method of play:
We are going to play the dominant dozen in a set of 3 separate spins.  So, the next 3 spins will all be 1 unit on the 3rd dozen.  Keep track of how many times the 3rd dozen hits in the next 3 spins.  If in the next 3 spins the 3rd dozen hits all 3 times, we are up +6 units.  If in the next 3 spins the 3rd dozen hits 2 of the 3 times, we are up +3 units.  If in the next 3 spins the 3rd dozen hits 1 of the 3 times, we have not won and have not lost and we remain exactly where we were.  If in the next 3 spins the 3rd dozen does not hit at all, we are down -3 units.  

Goal:  
We are looking for the dominant dozen to hit at least 2 of the next 3 spins to complete the set.  If the dominant dozen does NOT hit in the next 3 spins, we now must start our progression.

Very safe progression:
So far I have not gone above 3 units in the progression.  However, this progression is unlike most progressions that you are used to.  The progression is 1a, 1b, 1c, 2a, 2b, 2c, 3a, 3b, 3c.

We begin by betting the most dominant dozen for 3 spins 1a.  If we lose all 3 spins, we now move to the right of the progression and we are still betting 1 unit for the next 3 spins 1b.  If we lose all 3 spins again, we move to the right again and we are on 1c.  If we lose again, we move to the right and we are now on 2a.  If the next 3 spins produces a winner, we move to the left back to 1c.  If in the next 3 spins we only hit 1 of 3, we have not won or lost that set and we stay where we are and now reset and play the new most dominant dozen for 3 spins.

On a loss we move to the right after a 3 spin set.  On a win we move to the left on a 3 spin set.  The goal is to always get back to betting the smallest unit of 1a.

I have been playing 100 spin sessions and I have never gone farther than 3a.  I have always made a profit within the 100 spins.  Some of my sessions end at +20 units, some end at 7+ units.  The goal can be to play it safe and quit when ever you are +3 in profit, or you can take the progression the whole way and try to recover.  What I like about it is, I am never betting more than 3 units per spin.  The bet selection tends to favor a dominant dozen in 3 spin sets.  If we were to play a "least dominant" dozen things can get out of control in a hurry as sometimes a particular dozen can sleep for up to 20 consecutive spins.  Any time we are forced to move to the right in the progression, as long as we win at least 2 of 3 in the next 3 spin set, we have recovered our losses and can now move back to the left.

If you are not sure, ask questions.

[ReDsQuaD]

It is inevitable that a zero will hit half way through your progression - and what happens when your dominant dozen streaks 18 times? Your cleaned. It will happen!

This is the very reason you can't beat roulette with probability.

[ll l ll l lll ll]

It is inevitable that a zero will hit half way through your progression - and what happens when your dominant dozen streaks 18 times? Your cleaned. It will happen!

This is the very reason you can't beat roulette with probability.

In my testing the zero and double zero for that matter hit several times throughout and it didn't make a difference, it is counted as a loss and we move to the right of the progression, it still recovered.  When my dominant dozen streaks 18 times, then that will give me a profit of +36 units!  You didn't read how to play this carefully.  I'm betting for, NOT against the dominant dozen.  That's the strength of this, I am always betting the strongest dozen, never the weakest.  It is constantly changing and adapting to playing the current most dominant dozen.

[ReDsQuaD]

I apologize, i did read it wrong. How ever my opinion will never change because its fact.

[ll l ll l lll ll]

I apologize, I did read it wrong. How ever my opinion will never change because its fact.

I agree, i'm not a fan of progressions.  I am a huge flat bet player, that looks for the edge in bet selection. 

However, this progression has not lost past 3 in over 1,000 spins.  If need be, we can go to 4, or 5 etc... These numbers are managable and are low compared to the out of control progressions of 1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128 etc... like the Martingale.

[ReDsQuaD]

I agree, I'm not a fan of progressions.  I am a huge flat bet player, that looks for the edge in bet selection. 

However, this progression has not lost past 3 in over 1,000 spins.  If need be, we can go to 4, or 5 etc... These numbers are managable and are low compared to the out of control progressions of 1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128 etc... like the Martingale.

I was mainly referring to probability. A Progression is suicide because of the ZERO.

[bacclover]

Hi, tx for sharing.
Just to be sure:
a) when a DZ qualify you bet the same dz for a set of 3 decisions, THEN you can switch to another dz eventually qualifying. . . .
correct?
b) your betting ladder is:
111
111
111
222
etc
c) when you're not IN the progression you try to get 3 winnings in a set, DURING prog just 2 out of 3, OK?
tx for clarifying
andrea

[ll l ll l lll ll]

Hi, tx for sharing.
Just to be sure:
a) when a DZ qualify you bet the same dz for a set of 3 decisions, THEN you can switch to another dz eventually qualifying. . . .
correct?
b) your betting ladder is:
111
111
111
222
etc
c) when you're not IN the progression you try to get 3 winnings in a set, DURING prog just 2 out of 3, OK?
tx for clarifying
andrea

a) yes correct.  Once you play a dominant dozen for 3 spins, we always re-evaluate and play the "new" dominate dozen for 3 new spins.  If it is the same dozen as before, then we play the same dozen again, it's always the most dominant dozen after a 3 spin set.
b) yes, that is the way the betting progression goes.
c) We're always trying to get 2 OR 3 wins in a set.  If we get 3 wins out of 3 spins, that is the best scenario as we just won +6 units.  If we get 2 wins out of 3 spins, we still "won" that set and made a profit of +3 units.  So either 2 or 3 wins per set counts as a "win."  If we get 1 hit in 3 spins we just broke even and it is neither a win nor a loss, we would then re-evaluate our most dominant dozen and play another 3 spin set at the same value unit.

[bacclover]

Hi barcode. . .
it seems strange to me that this thread didn't catch so much attention; I tried a few sessions and it's safe and quite profitable.
I'd like to suggest a little tweak on MM:
when I hit the doz in 1st or 2nd place of the set, for the remaining decisions I bet just half unit.
This allows to me to stay in profit when a doz is catched in 1st or 2nd hit and at the same time to have profit in long winning runs that sometimes happen.
What's your opinion on this?
ciao

[ll l ll l lll ll]

Hi barcode. . .
it seems strange to me that this thread didn't catch so much attention; I tried a few sessions and it's safe and quite profitable.
I'd like to suggest a little tweak on MM:
when I hit the doz in 1st or 2nd place of the set, for the remaining decisions I bet just half unit.
This allows to me to stay in profit when a doz is catched in 1st or 2nd hit and at the same time to have profit in long winning runs that sometimes happen.
What's your opinion on this?
ciao

I posted it at rouletteforum.cc and some people are starting to notice it.  I like the bet selection and believe it or not, it can win more than lose just flat betting with a proper stop loss.

Your tweek is a good strategy, however I think it might not make a difference in the end, as many times I win all 3 in a set and get +6 for that set.  If I was only betting a 1/2 unit there I would not have profited as much in the end.  Post some of your results.

[buffalowizard]

Very good barcode.

I like the progression especially, which sets this apart somewhat. I will do some backtesting myself and let you know how it goes.

Thanks!

Buffalowizard

[bacclover]

Hi all,
I run some testing.  I noticed that after a good winning run, the system start losing, likely becase the hitting rate is recovering its normal avg.  Same happens after a bad section where at a certain point winnings come in bunches.
Fixing some entry/exit points would be rewardable.   
Barcode, did you notice this?

[figjams95]

I lost with this in less than a 100 spins. . . uuurrrggghhh!!!

[Montana89]

Can this strategy/aproach can be used on columns instead of dozens?
All The Best. .
Montana89

[mark7102]

   Good eye ll l ll l lll ll this is a twist on what I have been using for years to make money at the "wheel",  you've opened my eyes to something that I had not noticed before, another example of "not seeing the forest for the trees". . .

I tried it out and I like it very much, my only problem is I am not as smart as many that post on this forum and I cannot stick to the hard and fast slow progression you advise.  I believe in progression betting and feel its really the ONLY edge we have in spite of what ReDsQuaD may espouse.  I am a bit more aggressive and did encounter a small losing streak BUT. . . .  You'll have that because this is the "heartbreak" game of roulette so as long as your progressions don't get out of control EVERYTHING WILL BE OK.

The point you have hit on and what took me YEARS to learn is. . .   Wait for it. . . 






GO WITH THE WHEEL NOT AGAINST IT. . .





In my opinion this is what many players miss, they insist on thinking that because a section or number or color has not come up, probability or rather "reason" dictates that it is "due" but sadly the "Law Of Large Numbers" comes into play and "streaks" occur and patterns (albeit frustrating patterns) emerge.

The game is about winning more than losing and the 2 to 1 odds of the dozens are the ones I believe can be "managed" with a reasonable progression and as I said "I have been exploiting it for years" but the regimen of the "boxy" 111 222 333 seems slow but otherwise THANK YOU so much for opening my eyes.

[mark7102]

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